Mass exodus at the State Department

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THGRRI

Tuesday, February 7, 2017 8:48 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Actually, this is one of those things that really COULD be verified - though Haken would be grumpy. All it would take is simply reposting all of your posts.

So what you're suggesting is that Haken take over for SIG and verify what SIG claimed she could easily verify. If that's true Hakens' services are not required. Just prove I did not condemn what she claims by proving I did not. And remember, I have proven the two of you troll on behalf of Putin. So, many of my responses may be to point out you are trolling. Due to this, many times I may not show deference to you and your topic.

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Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decri
miinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912/

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, February 8, 2017 6:04 AM

I keep hearing that his proclaimed mass exodus is another prime example of Fake News, perpetrated by the Looney Lefty Lying Libtard MainStreamMedia.

Are there any facts involved with this claim?

THGRRI

Wednesday, February 8, 2017 6:57 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I keep hearing that his proclaimed mass exodus is another prime example of Fake News, perpetrated by the Looney Lefty Lying Libtard MainStreamMedia.

Are there any facts involved with this claim?

Yes the facts are showing it was not unusual or a mass exodus. The mainstream news media have gotten caught up in reporting things before they are verified. There have been mistakes and they need to do a better job.

I have to admit my mistake for running with it and starting this thread.

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1KIKI

Wednesday, February 8, 2017 11:23 AM

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So what you're suggesting is that Haken take over for SIG and verify what SIG claimed she could easily verify.

Not at all. Somebody - not Haken - could verify this by reposting all of your posts. Haken would be grumpy because he's running a database on a server and all that reposting could stretch the database beyond its capacity, use up a lot of space, and take up bandwidth. He's spent money, time and effort to put this website together and keep it running. I'm pretty sure he'd be sorely tried to see it being used like that.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

SIGNYM

Wednesday, February 8, 2017 8:03 PM

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So what you're suggesting is that Haken take over for SIG and verify what SIG claimed she could easily verify= THUGR

I've already verified it. I quoted everything that you posted on the injustices that I listed, which is .... nothing.

Proving a negative ... proving that something DOESN'T exist .... is logically impossible and for practical purposes very difficult. For example it's like proving that Saddam didn't have WMD .... some people will always conjecture that somebody "missed something" ... that the weapons were moved into Syria, or buried, or what-have-you. (At some point, though we could say that there weren't enough weapons or large enough production to make any material difference in a military situation.)

So, if you haven't posted anything at all about the injustices that I listed, and then used your silence on the topic to indict you, while it would be extremely difficult for me to verify that you haven't posted anything, it would far easier for you to show that you DID post something because you would have evidence to bring forward.

It's in the nature of hypothesis testing: that's the way it works. It's easier to DISPROVE a hypotheses than to PROVE one. So prove me wrong. GO find those quotes that you should be more aware of than anyone else here, and link them.

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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THGRRI

Wednesday, February 8, 2017 8:13 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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So what you're suggesting is that Haken take over for SIG and verify what SIG claimed she could easily verify= THUGR

I've already verified it. I quoted everything that you posted on the injustices that I listed, which is .... nothing.

yeah right, we'll take your word for it. That's some funny shit SIG.

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Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decri
miinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912/

THGRRI

Wednesday, February 8, 2017 8:16 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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So what you're suggesting is that Haken take over for SIG and verify what SIG claimed she could easily verify.
Not at all. Somebody - not Haken - could verify this by reposting all of your posts.

Or you could do what SIG just did and say there aren't any and leave it at that. Besides, what I did is ask you both a direct question. That's different than when I am questioning your motives for starting the thread, and what you are posting.

It's also different than when I have to point to your sources and facts as being wrong and untrustworthy, creating different needs other than a direct response. That is what I generally have to do when dealing with the subjective bullshit the two of you post.

So 1kiki, ready to condemn Russia?
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Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decri
miinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912/

SIGNYM

Wednesday, February 8, 2017 9:05 PM

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It's simple: You rightly say it's impossible to post on everything, but when you IGNORE a simple question asked of you, THEN you can detect bias - there's a reason you aren't answering. That could be:

blah blah blah

I didn't think that particular post was worth dwelling on. I answered it, and that was enough.

First of all, I'm not "condemning" the new Russian law. I think it's unfortunate and I'm sorry that it passed - I don't see how the outcome could be good. But I save "condemnation" for more important things, like Pol Pot or the destruction of the Middle East by the west: the killing a hundred thousand or more, and displacing tens of millions of people. People get their priorities all twisted- what is worse: Temporarily banning people from some Muslim nations, or killing them? Condemn the former, ignore the latter?

You might notice that I, myself, don't go around "condemning" other nations very much. There are thousands of heinous policies, events, and people I could focus on, but I generally limit myself to posting about OUR (United States) problems because I feel that WE (Americans) have both the authority and the responsibility for OUR national policies. We also have some responsibility for the (military) actions of those nations which we support militarily, like Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Germany etc.

But I feel very strongly that we have the duty to clean up our act FIRST, before we go stomping our boots and dropping our bombs all over anyone else. The sort of blind righteousness that people like THUGR display is just a hook to get people like THUGR to buy into yet another round of nation-destruction ... it has nothing to do with the REAL reasons why we've destroyed so many nations lately! Yanno, if there's a problem and we want to help, then we should HELP, not bomb. But I guess that's too simple.

THUGR, son .... it would be extremely easy for you to prove that you care about the injustices that I listed, all you have to do is find a one post for each of them ... or even some of them. Or, by your logic, you stand indicted on being "for" them.

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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THGRRI

Wednesday, February 8, 2017 9:33 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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It's simple: You rightly say it's impossible to post on everything, but when you IGNORE a simple question asked of you, THEN you can detect bias - there's a reason you aren't answering. That could be:

blah blah blah

I didn't think that particular post was worth dwelling on. I answered it, and that was enough.

First of all, I'm not "condemning" the new Russian law. I think it's unfortunate and I'm sorry that it passed - I don't see how the outcome could be good. But I save "condemnation" for more important things, like Pol Pot or the destruction of the Middle East by the west: the killing a hundred thousand or more, and displacing tens of millions of people. People get their priorities all twisted- what is worse: Temporarily banning people from some Muslim nations, or killing them? Condemn the former, ignore the latter?

You might notice that I, myself, don't go around "condemning" other nations very much. There are thousands of heinous policies, events, and people I could focus on, but I generally limit myself to posting about OUR (United States) problems because I feel that WE (Americans) have both the authority and the responsibility for OUR national policies. We also have some responsibility for the (military) actions of those nations which we support militarily, like Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Germany etc.

But I feel very strongly that we have the duty to clean up our act FIRST, before we go stomping our boots and dropping our bombs all over anyone else. The sort of blind righteousness that people like THUGR display is just a hook to get people like THUGR to buy into yet another round of nation-destruction ... it has nothing to do with the REAL reasons why we've destroyed so many nations lately! Yanno, if there's a problem and we want to help, then we should HELP, not bomb. But I guess that's too simple.

THUGR, son .... it would be extremely easy for you to prove that you care about the injustices that I listed, all you have to do is find a one post for each of them ... or even some of them. Or, by your logic, you stand indicted on being "for" them.

I read your post here and I have to laugh. You're against the law sort of. That's followed up by your fallacy of relative privation. Your attempts to suggest that what goes on in Russia should be ignored because there are more important problems in the world. Even though the issues you list are completely unrelated to the subject under discussion.

I read your post here and I have to laugh because we have years of threads started by you. Threads where you are outraged about things going on in the world that don't rise to the level of what just transpired in Russia, regarding their domestic violence laws. And 1kiki has yet to even say she's against it sort of.

Finally, I see another text book example of subjective posting in your cumulative post. I ask about domestic violence laws in Russia and you comment on some of our allies, completely off topic, and I quote" We also have some responsibility for the (military) actions of those nations which we support militarily, like Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Germany etc." You state this and then go on to suggest you don't discuss what other nations do.

As you post you contradict yourself SIG and that's subjective posting. Or as I like to say, bullshit.

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Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decri
miinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912/

1KIKI

Thursday, February 9, 2017 9:30 AM

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Besides, what I did is ask you both a direct question.

Whatever. Ask me if I care about your inane posts.

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That is what I generally have to do when dealing with the subjective bullshit the two of you post.

Said the troll who never posts links to facts.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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