Mass exodus at the State Department

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SIGNYM

Sunday, February 5, 2017 8:27 PM

THUGR, I used YOUR QUOTE to justify what I did. To refresh your memory, this is what you said:

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So there we have it folks. By virtue of SIG and 1kik's silence, it's ok with them if men abuse their wives. = THUGR

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So there we have it folks. By virtue of THUGR'S silence, it's ok with him if
Saudi men abuse their wives
Qatari men beat their wives
American men beat their wives
Cops kill black people
Black people kill black people
Saudis aid and abet terrorists
The USA bombs brown people by the hundreds of thousands
Kiev bombs civilians and kills thousands
South Sudanese leaders are all corrupt
So are the Mexican leaders.
In fact, add Brazil to the list.
Oh, what the hell, add most world leaders to the list!
Saudi Arabia bombs Yemeni civilians
Lance Armstrong doped
Chickens are raised and slaughtered under brutal conditions
Human traffickers sell young girls

I can point out dozens upon dozens of injustices that you've been silent on, THUGR. I guess you're OK with them. [But] If you want to know what I think, look here: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61329
Now back to our regularly scheduled topic ....

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SIGNYM

Sunday, February 5, 2017 8:28 PM

Meanwhile, I still think this was the best ON TOPIC article

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I thought this was an interesting article. It discusses in detail the divisions between the President (Obama) and his supposedly loyal staff, including the supposedly loyal Hillary Clinton in the State Department and the supposedly loyal Gates and Petraeus in the Pentagon.

I have often thought that the Obama foreign policy was a result of parts of his staff surprising Obama with their own little side projects, that Obama was not fully in control of events. He seemed to be lurching from one stance to another: drawing red lines and then ignoring them, destroying Libya and then making a deal with Iran, waffling endlessly in the Mideast and conducting his fight against terrorists with drone strikes and desultory bombings.

The open letter of protest from 50 Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) analysts telling the world that they were unhappy that their analyses of the Syria policy (backing "moderates" who would never be an effective organization for "regime change" while sending arms into a terrorist-filled theater which would eventually attempt becoming a caliphate) were constantly being overwitten by higher ups into happy-news that the moderate rebels were doing just great ....

To be followed several months later by an open letter of protest from 50 STATE DEPARTMENT staffers who thought Syria needed a more "kinetic" (i.e. bombing) approach

... revealed the level of disunity and possibly even treason among the various entities which - supposedly- do what the President tells them to do.

When Obama said that Libya was the greatest mistake he ever made, he didn't directly lay the blame for that on Hillary, but it was certainly Hillary's pet project, as was Ukraine. I've been thinking for a long time that the State Department had an agenda of its own, and was disloyal to Obama (ETA) by attempting to activate its own goals aside from the President's. But since Obama was partly malleable, they found him partly useful. Now that Trump is in office, they've completely exposed their lack of loyalty to the President. Too bad there aren't mass defections from the CIA. But then again, if there were we would never know.

Anyway, on to the article ...

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Obama Bequeaths a More Dangerous World
January 24, 2017

Special Report: President Obama may have entered the White House with a desire to rein in America’s global war-making but he succumbed to neocon pressure and left behind an even more dangerous world, reports Robert Parry.

Any fair judgment about Barack Obama’s presidency must start with the recognition that he inherited a dismal situation from George W. Bush: the U.S. economy was in free-fall and U.S. troops were bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan. Clearly, these intertwined economic and foreign policy crises colored how Obama viewed his options, realizing that one false step could tip the world into the abyss.

It’s also true that his Republican rivals behaved as if they had no responsibility for the messes that Obama had to clean up. From the start, they set out to trip him up rather than lend a hand. Plus, the mainstream media blamed Obama for this failure of bipartisanship, rewarding the Republicans for their nihilistic obstructionism.

That said, however, it is also true that Obama – an inexperienced manager – made huge mistakes from the outset and failed to rectify them in a timely fashion. For instance, he bought into the romantic notion of a “Team of Rivals” with his White House trumpeting the comparisons to Abraham Lincoln (although some of Lincoln’s inclusion of rivals actually resulted from deals made at the 1860 Republican convention in Chicago to gain Lincoln the nomination).

In the real world of modern Washington, Obama’s choice of hawkish Sen. Hillary Clinton to be his Secretary of State and Republican apparatchik Robert Gates to remain as Secretary of Defense – along with keeping Bush’s high command, includi

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