The 2017 Inauguration

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SIGNYM

Friday, January 20, 2017 9:33 PM

For some people, a day of happiness and for others a day of dread. Some media people openly speculating on/ wishing for an assassination.

Obama's inauguration was marred by people who called him a Muslim, a Kenyan, a socialist, and (quietly) an ape, and his Administration (after the first two years, after he had carte blanche) marred by obstructionism from the GOP. The left, at the time, was horrified by the incivility.

Today, I see that nothing has changed except the sides.

RIVERLOVE

Saturday, January 21, 2017 12:48 AM

Trump's Inauguration speech was pure Trump. One gets the feeling that big changes are comin'. The Kraken has been released.

ELVISCHRIST

Saturday, January 21, 2017 8:30 AM

Congratulations, idiots. You elected a fucking Batman villain.

SECOND

Saturday, January 21, 2017 9:08 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

The left, at the time, was horrified by the incivility.

Today, I see that nothing has changed except the sides.

On His First Day in Office, Trump Raises Taxes on Middle-Class Homebuyers
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/20/on-his-first-day-in-office-trump-r
aises-taxes-on-middle-class-homebuyers/

In one of the first official acts of his presidency, Donald Trump has increased taxes on a million middle-class homebuyers.

The Department of Housing and Urban Development on Friday reversed a scheduled 0.25 percent cut in mortgage insurance premiums issued by the Federal Housing Administration (FHA). For a mortgage worth $200,000, this adds $500 to a homebuyer’s annual costs.

These insurance fees are effectively a tax on middle-class homeownership. By reversing the cut, which was scheduled to go into effect on January 27, one week from today, Trump will be taking more money from FHA homebuyers to keep in government coffers.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Saturday, January 21, 2017 7:46 PM

Trump put forward a bleak view of current conditions, casting the richest nation on Earth as a victim of the rest of the world. “We must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our products, stealing our companies and destroying our jobs,” he said. He would rescue us from this horror. “This American carnage,” he said, “stops right here and stops right now.”

Kennedy used his inaugural to “let the word go forth from this time and place to friend and foe alike” that his generation of Americans wouldn’t allow the undoing of human rights. Trump’s version, a “decree” he addressed to “every foreign capital,” was inward-looking: “From this day forward, it’s going to be only America first.”

“We will bring back our jobs,” Trump said. “We will bring back our borders. We will bring back our wealth. And we will bring back our dreams.” It was a high bar Trump set for himself, and the strong economy Obama left him raises the bar further still. Trump left himself no room for falling short.

www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10158511247570725

SIGNYM

Saturday, January 21, 2017 8:11 PM

Well Trump's speech was mercifully short- 16 minutes - and to the point. I had a plumbing emergency at home to take care of, so I caught it in my car on the way to work, and my impression is that it was angry, defiant, and a giant poke-in-the-eye to the politicians in DC and elsewhere who have put everything else first BEFORE America: Their financial contributors from Saudi Arabia, their potential speaking fees, their contacts with the global glitterati, "those poor people of (fill in the blank of any convenient nation here), their burning desire for "full spectrum dominance", and all of those lovely warmaking profits which many politicians will be destined to "consult" about.

Meanwhile Soros - the globalist who wants to remake the world in HIS profit-making fashion, the guy who lost a $billion betting against Trump- has come out with guns blazing, saying "Trump will fail".

You can bet your bottom dollar that there are MANY in the DC swamp who want Trump to fail! In that context, here is the full transcript below:

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Chief Justice Roberts, President Carter, President Clinton, President bush, President Obama, fellow Americans, and people of the world, thank you. We the citizens of America are now joined in a great national effort to rebuild our country and restore its promise for all of our people. Together we will determine the course of America, and the world, for many, many years to come. We will face challenges. We will confront hardships, but we will get the job done. Every four years, we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful transfer of power, and we are grateful to President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama for their gracious aid throughout this transition. They have been magnificent. Thank you.

Today's ceremony, however, has very special meaning, because today we are not merely transferring power from one administration to another, or from one party to another, but we are transferring power from Washington, D.C., and giving it back to you, the people. For too long, a small group in our nation's capitol has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost. Washington flourished, but the people did not share in its wealth. Politicians prospered, but the jobs left, and the factories closed. The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country. Their victories have not been your victories. Their triumphs have not been your triumphs, and while they celebrated in our nation's capitol, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land.

That all changed starting right here and right now, because this moment is your moment. It belongs to you. It belongs to everyone gathered here today, and everyone watching, all across America. This is your day. This is your celebration, and this, the United States of America, is your country.

What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. January 20th, 2017 will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer. Everyone is listening to you now. You came by the tens of millions to become part of a historic movement, the likes of which the world has never seen before.

At the center of this movement is a crucial conviction, that a nation exists to serve its citizens. Americans want great schools for their children, safe neighborhoods for their families, and good jobs for themselves. These are just and reasonable demands of righteous people and a righteous public, but for too many of our citizens a different reality exists. Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities, rusted out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation, an education system flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge, and the crime, and the gangs, and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and

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SIGNYM

Saturday, January 21, 2017 8:38 PM

For some of you, this is probably the first time you have actually listened to more than the 2-second snippets of Trump that the biased media has broadcast.

For some of you, you STILL haven't actually listened to the man you hate so much ... which is of course just your fact-free way of forming your opinions (or, more likely, having them formed for you).

To, the message was clear: America first. WHY are we worried about Poland and Germany? WHY do we represent Saudi Arabia's interests in the Mideast? WHY have we allowed China to become wealthy while sucking us dry of jobs? WHY do we continue to provoke and antagonize Russia? WHY are we so worried about poor illegal and potential immigrants when we have poor citizens at home?

In other words: What are America's interests? Not other nations' interests conflated with ours, but OUR interests? http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60986 I'm going to start answering that question in the other thread ... I have held off on posting much of anything there in the hopes that SOMEBODY would step forward and post something, but apparently the topic is anathema to those who profess to be so worried about "America" in the first place.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

REAVERFAN

Saturday, January 21, 2017 8:43 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
For some of you, this is probably the first time you have actually listened to more than the 2-second snippets of Trump that the biased media has broadcast.

For some of you, you STILL haven't actually listened to the man you hate so much ... which is of course just your fact-free way of forming your opinions (or, more likely, having them formed for you).

To, the message was clear: America first. WHY are we worried about Poland and Germany? WHY do we represent Saudi Arabia's interests in the Mideast? WHY have we allowed China to become wealthy while sucking us dry of jobs? WHY do we continue to provoke and antagonize Russia? WHY are we so worried about poor illegal and potential immigrants when we have poor citizens at home?

In other words: What are America's interests? Not other nations' interests conflated with ours, but OUR interests? http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60986 I'm going to start answering that question in the other thread ... I have held off on posting much of anything there in the hopes that SOMEBODY would step forward and post something, but apparently the topic is anathema to those who profess to be so worried about "America" in the first place.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

It's as if you didn't read a single post in this thread.

SECOND

Saturday, January 21, 2017 9:18 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

In other words: What are America's interests? Not other nations' interests conflated with ours, but OUR interests? ... I have held off on posting much of anything there in the hopes that SOMEBODY would step forward and post something, but apparently the topic is anathema to those who profess to be so worried about "America" in the first place.

Somebody has stepped forward. They sent a message directly to Trump about what is in the best interests of America and they used the website created by the White House:

Petition the White House on the Issues that Matter to You

The first petition for Trump, which has already received sufficient signatures (100,000 necessary, 123,271 actually signed) for Trump to respond to is:

Immediately release Donald Trump's full tax returns, with all information needed to verify emoluments clause compliance.

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The unprecedented economic conflicts of this administration need to be visible to the American people, including any pertinent documentation which can reveal the foreign influences and financial interests which may put Donald Trump in conflict with the emoluments clause of the Constitution.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-release-donald-t
rumps-full-tax-returns-all-information-needed-verify-emoluments-clause-compliance

The White House has only until February 19, 2017 to response.

Trump lashed out at a reporter who asked about his tax returns. He claimed that Americans don’t care: “I won, when I became president. No, I don’t think they care at all. I don’t think they care at all.”
www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/trump-press-conference-transcri
pt.html

Without Trump’s tax returns it is impossible to know that Trump has no conflicts of interest between what is in the best interests for the Trump family fortune and what is the best interests for the USA.

One phone call to Trump's accountant could answer this petition, but Trump won't make the call. Why? Why? Why?

SIGNYM

Saturday, January 21, 2017 10:21 PM

Trump stopped just short of calling Obama, the Clintons, and the Bushes traitors. When Presidents make decisions without keeping the interests of the USA first, what are they? Did they not promise to defend the USA against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and to defend the Constitution?

So what standards are we holding Presidents to, if any?

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SIGNYM

Saturday, January 21, 2017 11:21 PM

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... The best example of this, so far, is an article penned this morning by Gabor Steingart, chief in chief of Handelsblatt, Germany's leading economic newspaper, who burned all compromise bridges when he said that "that was no presidential speech; that was a veritable declaration of war."

On whom?

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The savage criticism continued: "Threatening in tone. Cold and calculating in logic. Change minus the hope. Donald Trump used the traditional Inauguration Day address to settle a score with the U.S. political establishment going back decades. With four ex-presidents sitting a few feet behind him, the 45th president delivered a populist manifesto."

As I was listening to the speech, I couldn't help but think how it was being received by BOTH parties in DC ... And by foreign capitals around the world.

This is what Trump said about foreign policy

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For many decades, we've enriched foreign industry at the expense of American industry; subsidized the armies of other countries, while allowing for the very sad depletion of our military. We've defended other nations' borders while refusing to defend our own. ... And spent trillions and trillions of dollars overseas while America's infrastructure has fallen into disrepair and decay. We've made other countries rich, while the wealth, strength and confidence of our country has dissipated over the horizon.

One by one, the factories shuttered and left our shores, with not even a thought about the millions and millions of American workers that were left behind. The wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed all across the world.

But that is the past. And now, we are looking only to the future. We assembled here today are issuing a new decree to be heard in every city, in every foreign capital, and in every hall of power. From this day forward, a new vision will govern our land. From this day forward, it's going to be only America first, America first.

Every decision on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs will be made to benefit American workers and American families. We must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our products, stealing our companies and destroying our jobs.

We will seek friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world, but we do so with the understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their own interests first. We do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone but rather to let it shine as an example. We will shine for everyone to follow.

We will reinforce old alliances and form new ones and unite the civilized world against radical Islamic terrorism, which we will eradicate from the face of the Earth.

I can't see any "threat" from Trump to any recognized nation in the world. The only open threat was to radical Islam.

What this speech DOES threaten are the hangers-on: Those nations and entities that depend on American military, financial, or economic largesse* for their continued prosperity.

(*A generous bestowal of gifts)

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SIGNYM

Saturday, January 21, 2017 11:28 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

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only 2? [nations reacting badly to Trump] You are fooling yourself. Easier to name the countries not reacting badly - Russia, North Korea and the Philippines, Taiwan. Most other nations are gritting their teeth and are in damage control for 4 years- MAGONS

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61314

Your comment was intriguing, MAGONS. How do things look like from the Australian POV? Or from your, at least? And why?

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:17 AM

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:17 AM

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It's as if you didn't read a single post in this thread.

It's like that even when she reads them. It's almost like there are no other people on this forum.

I DO tend to skip over yours!

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:52 AM

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Originally posted by second:
...and the strong economy Obama left him raises the bar further still.

Now I'm convinced that the Mandela Effect is real and that you and I are living in two parallel universes and the RWED is where they overlap.

We're living in the US's slowest rate of growth since the Great Depression. More people in America are unemployed or under employed than at any other time in American history. More people are on food stamps than at any other time in American history. The national debt is twice what it was 8 years ago and 4 times what it was 16 years ago. American's personal debts are higher than they ever were. home ownership among young adults is at an all time low.

I could go on...

I'm just wondering what about this is a "strong economy" to you?

I realize that you're making so much money that you're going to save $100,000 in taxes come next April, but you need to step outside of your cozy little bubble and look at the rest of us.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:14 AM

Thank you SIX! One of the "numbers" that Democrats point to is the "unemployment" number. But both the political administrations and the business community have figured out how to phony that number up, because all it takes for someone to be considered as "employed" is one hour per month of work. In addition, if you're discouraged about seeking work and choose to spend your time in school or your mom's basement, you aren't counted either.

You wouldn't believe the homeless problem here, despite the "improved" economy!

Part-time work and the "gig economy" really inflate the employment figures to the point where they're utter nonsense.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SECOND

Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:01 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
...and the strong economy Obama left him raises the bar further still.

Now I'm convinced that the Mandela Effect is real and that you and I are living in two parallel universes and the RWED is where they overlap.

We're living in the US's slowest rate of growth since the Great Depression. More people in America are unemployed or under employed than at any other time in American history. More people are on food stamps than at any other time in American history. The national debt is twice what it was 8 years ago and 4 times what it was 16 years ago. American's personal debts are higher than they ever were. home ownership among young adults is at an all time low.

I could go on...

I'm just wondering what about this is a "strong economy" to you?

I realize that you're making so much money that you're going to save $100,000 in taxes come next April, but you need to step outside of your cozy little bubble and look at the rest of us.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Do you think that fat fraud Trump is going to get you a job? You’re going to have to get off your couch and get your own job.

If you can’t find a job, then you’re living in the wrong place. Leave it for work elsewhere. Trump will not be reopening the local mine. If you’re watching daytime TV, turn it off and go outside. You were bragging about how your class notes for PLCs (for everybody, that is Programmable Logic Controllers) were the very best. What did you do with that knowledge? Nothing?

Who will hire you if they never see you? Who is going to hire you if you don’t know anything? Over the next decade, nearly 3½ million manufacturing jobs will likely be needed, and 2 million are expected to go unfilled due to the skills gap. Moreover, according to a recent report, 80 percent of manufacturers report a moderate or serious shortage of qualified applicants for skilled and highly-skilled production positions. (Source: Deloitte and the Manufacturing Institute)
www.nam.org/Newsroom/Top-20-Facts-About-Manufacturing/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:43 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:But both the political administrations and the business community have figured out how to phony that number up, because all it takes for someone to be considered as "employed" is one hour per month of work. In addition, if you're discouraged about seeking work and choose to spend your time in school or your mom's basement, you aren't counted either.

All it takes to not be counted on the Unemployment numbers is to not be actively filing a weekly or bi-weekly unemployment report. I don't know anybody who actually fills this out anymore after the unemployment payments stop after 6 months (or longer if unemployment is over a certain amount in your state).

As far as I know, it's always been this way. The official unemployment statistic is strictly based off of the percentage of people in the state/country that are filing weekly unemployment claims.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:51 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Do you think that fat fraud Trump is going to get you a job? You’re going to have to get off your couch and get your own job.

If you can’t find a job, then you’re living in the wrong place. Leave it for work elsewhere. Trump will not be reopening the local mine. If you’re watching daytime TV, turn it off and go outside. You were bragging about how your class notes for PLCs (for everybody, that is Programmable Logic Controllers) were the very best. What did you do with that knowledge? Nothing?

Who will hire you if they never see you? Who is going to hire you if you don’t know anything? Over the next decade, nearly 3½ million manufacturing jobs will likely be needed, and 2 million are expected to go unfilled due to the skills gap. Moreover, according to a recent report, 80 percent of manufacturers report a moderate or serious shortage of qualified applicants for skilled and highly-skilled production positions. (Source: Deloitte and the Manufacturing Institute)
www.nam.org/Newsroom/Top-20-Facts-About-Manufacturing/

I honestly can't argue any of that. I am in a unique position of having training in an industry that has a shortage of qualified applicants, even without a college degree. My biggest hurdles would be the lack of actual experience in the industry vs my age.

I, personally, am not very worried about my future. I know I need to get up off my ass and do something with my life.

That doesn't change any of the statistics I mentioned above though. As a whole, this country's economy hasn't been this bad since after the Great Depression. I'm just wondering where you get the idea that Obama left office with a "Strong Economy" is all...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:52 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

All it takes to not be counted on the Unemployment numbers is to not be actively filing a weekly or bi-weekly unemployment report. I don't know anybody who actually fills this out anymore after the unemployment payments stop after 6 months (or longer if unemployment is over a certain amount in your state).

As far as I know, it's always been this way. The official unemployment statistic is strictly based off of the percentage of people in the state/country that are filing weekly unemployment claims.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You know when you are employed, 6ix. Start counting the days until that fat fraud Trump gets you a job. Report back to us the number and the pay-rate.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:35 AM

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Originally posted by second:You know when you are employed, 6ix. Start counting the days until that fat fraud Trump gets you a job. Report back to us the number and the pay-rate.

I find it ironic that the regressive left constantly tries to push agendas to stop bullying and limit free speech, but when they don't get their way they have no problem calling people fat.

If you would please tell me where you get the idea that Obama is leaving office with a "Strong Economy" I would appreciate it. I'm not going to ask a 4th time and just assume that you made it up if you do not have an actual reply this time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:29 AM

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You "skip over mine" because I call you out for lying.

I skip over your posts because you lie like a rug. Yanno like right here: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61315 I pay far more attention to you than you deserve.

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BTW, never did get an answer to this flaming declaration

Another lie

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3rd time: Wow - who did that?

Another lie. I posted a youtube link to the speculation on who is the "designated survivor" if the President Elect and VPE are assassinated at an inauguration, you stupid pig. And that's an insult to pigs everywhere. Why don't you go back to the shithole where you were wallowing?

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SECOND

Sunday, January 22, 2017 9:05 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:You know when you are employed, 6ix. Start counting the days until that fat fraud Trump gets you a job. Report back to us the number and the pay-rate.

I find it ironic that the regressive left constantly tries to push agendas to stop bullying and limit free speech, but when they don't get their way they have no problem calling people fat.

You got me confused with liberals. I am a gun-toting Texas Democrat. You cross me and I will hurt you. I voted for Hillary because Trump is a fat fraud, a noxious species that is common along the Gulf Coast.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If you would please tell me where you get the idea that Obama is leaving office with a "Strong Economy" I would appreciate it. I'm not going to ask a 4th time and just assume that you made it up if you do not have an actual reply this time.

The Wall Street Journal (owned by Rupert Murdoch who also owns Fox, which cancelled Firefly) has a video that says Trump inherited a "Strong Economy" and fat fraud Trump has 100 days to find 6ixStringJack a job or else Trump (or 6ix) is a failure. Friday was Day 1. Saturday is Day 2.
www.wsj.com/video/trump-inherits-strong-economycould-tinkering-backfir
e/C8A0F001-A20E-462B-93D4-5C912606F581.html

Trump Inherits Strong Economy—Could Tinkering Backfire?
11/30/2016 2:24PM
Housing prices, consumer confidence and corporate profits are up. Unemployment is down. But with Donald Trump pledging to “make America great again,” the question is: could tinkering too much with what’s working stall or even reverse economic momentum? WSJ’s Jason Bellini reports.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

AURAPTOR

Sunday, January 22, 2017 9:19 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
For some people, a day of happiness and for others a day of dread. Some media people openly speculating on/ wishing for an assassination.

Obama's inauguration was marred by people who called him a Muslim, a Kenyan, a socialist, and (quietly) an ape, and his Administration (after the first two years, after he had carte blanche) marred by obstructionism from the GOP. The left, at the time, was horrified by the incivility.

Today, I see that nothing has changed except the sides.

Where did we see anything at the Obama inauguration as you describe ? " Marred " ? If anything, it was a near religious experience for most of the Media, and was universally reported as such.

Yes, there were fringe cases of those thing say, but his Inauguration wasn't by any means 'marred ' by that stuff. Where were the riots ? Where were the ' monkey ' signs, other than on the internet ?

SECOND

Sunday, January 22, 2017 10:02 AM

Top Stories - Google News

Trump Administration Goes To War With The Media Over Inauguration Crowd Size - NPR
www.npr.org/2017/01/21/510994742/trump-administration-goes-to-war-with
-the-media-over-inauguration-crowd-size

The Trump Administration spent its first full day in office taking shots at the media and arguing about crowd sizes at Friday's inauguration. Trump Is Bringing His Love-Excoriate Relationship With Media Into Office ...

Trump Attacks News Media Over Reporting on Crowd Size - New York Times
www.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/us/politics/trump-white-house-briefing-inau
guration-crowd-size.html

New White House Press Secretary Blasts Media Over Crowd Size Reporting - NBCNews.com
www.nbcnews.com/storyline/inauguration-2017/new-white-house-press-secr
etary-blasts-media-over-crowd-size-n710351

Trump's Press Secretary Falsely Claims: 'Largest Audience Ever to Witness an Inauguration, Period' - The Atlantic
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/inauguration-crowd-size/5
14058/

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/20/us/politics/trump-inauguration-
crowd.html

"We had a massive field of people, you saw that. Packed," Trump said during remarks at the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters in Langley, Va.
"I get up this morning and I turn on one of the networks and they show an empty field. I said wait a minute, I made a speech, I looked out, the field was, it looked like a million, a million and a half people. They showed a field where there were practically nobody standing there," he added.

"Honestly it looked like a million and half people, whatever it was it was. But it went all the way back to the Washington Monument.”

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, January 22, 2017 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by second:
You got me confused with liberals. I am a gun-toting Texas Democrat. You cross me and I will hurt you. I voted for Hillary because Trump is a fat fraud, a noxious species that is common along the Gulf Coast.

The Wall Street Journal (owned by Rupert Murdoch who also owns Fox, which cancelled Firefly) has a video that says Trump inherited a "Strong Economy" and fat fraud Trump has 100 days to find 6ixStringJack a job or else Trump (or 6ix) is a failure. Friday was Day 1. Saturday is Day 2.

My apologies. You do come off as being very left handed though. :)

I especially apologize for insinuating that you were part of the regressive left. I have a lot of respect for true Liberals, actually. People like Jimmy Dore I think have a lot of worthwhile things to say. It's the SJW crowd that I avoid like the plague.

Part of your problem right there is paying any attention to the WSJ. What is a gun toting Republican reading a fake news rag like that for anyhow?

There were a lot of changes recently regarding Rupert Murdock. He doesn't run any of that stuff any more. His liberal sons do. You may have noticed how FOX news was pretty much pro Hillary aside from O'Rielly who stayed pretty much neutral and Hannity who supported Trump the whole way.

The WSJ was one of the rags claiming that Clinton was way out in front in the race until the very last day. Claiming on Trump's first day in office that Obama leaves office with a strong economy is just a Liberal rag trying to re-write history.

They can say all they want that the economy is great, but the facts don't lie.

- Home ownership is at an all time low among people under 33 years old.
- Student college debt is at an all time high.
- The national debt is twice what it was 8 years ago and 4 times what it was 16 years ago.
- More Americans are on Food Stamps than ever in history.
- More than half of American families are making less than the federal poverty level.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 22, 2017 11:02 AM

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Where did we see anything at the Obama inauguration as you describe ? " Marred " ? If anything, it was a near religious experience for most of the Media, and was universally reported as such.- RAPPY

True that. The media has been kissing Obama's ass and covering for his destructiveness since day 0.

For comparison, the media has been having a never-ending hate-fest for Trump ever since whenever, whipping up their little droids into a frenzy of bitching and carping.

Oh look, there goes one right now...!

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Trump Administration Goes To War With The Media Over Inauguration Crowd Size - - SECOND

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SECOND

Sunday, January 22, 2017 11:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Part of your problem right there is paying any attention to the WSJ. What is a gun toting Republican reading a fake news rag like that for anyhow?

Before you start with the everything-is-unfair-liberal-media, Trump rambled on Saturday about how he’s been on the cover of Time magazine more often than anybody. (In fact, the title is held by Richard Nixon, which says something about what gets a president on a lot Time magazine covers.) His visit to the CIA was supposed to reassure the intelligence community. Boy did that backfire.

www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2017/01/trump_tal
ks_about_himself_complains_about_media_at_first_official_event.html

It is now Sunday, Day 3 of Trump's search for 6ixStringJack's next job. Only 97 more days to go.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, January 22, 2017 1:02 PM

That is getting rather insulting, Second.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Sunday, January 22, 2017 6:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That is getting rather insulting, Second.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump made some big promises to shake up things during the first 100 days. I'm interpreting that to mean 6ix will be getting a good job, a great job, the greatest job 6ixStringJack ever had during the first 100 days. Or are we already reinterpreting those promises to mean an ordinary job during the first 1,000 days? A thousand is only one more zero added to a hundred. No big deal.

The insults are directed at Trump because he promises what he does not know how to deliver. His self is wrapped up in not acknowledging he does not know. Maybe he will get lucky? Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile. Trump is already squirrelly on Day 3.
www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/even+a+blind+squirrel+finds+a+nu
t+once+in+a+while.html

Trump is a chattering squirrel: Minutes into Trump’s term, lawyers for Bergdahl cited Trump’s scathing criticism in a request to dismiss charges that Bergdahl endangered comrades by walking off his post in Afghanistan. The motion filed Friday argues Trump violated his due process rights by repeatedly calling him a traitor and suggesting ways he could be punished. Does Trump know that he is not supposed do these things? A military court will weigh the real-world consequences of President Donald Trump’s fiery rhetoric as Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl argues he can’t get a fair trial under his new commander in chief.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:07 PM

I don't care if you insult Trump. I'm not his mother.

I'd appreciate it if you kept me out of that though. It sure comes off as if your insulting me personally.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't care if you insult Trump. I'm not his mother.

I'd appreciate it if you kept me out of that though. It sure comes off as if your insulting me personally.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump was asked 'How will we know when America is Great Again'. His answer was 'I'll tell you when'. That's not good enough. He needs to pick a measure of Greatness that can be verified without depending on Trump's telling. What better way for 6ixStringJack to know when America is Great Again then when 6ix is employed again? How great depends on how great that job is. It ties all Trump's promises into one convenient data point to judge Trumpism. My test for when America is Great Again is: "Has my $100,000 tax cut arrived from the IRS?" That will be true greatness. If Trump keeps his promise of a big tax cut for the wealthy, I might even vote for him in 2020, depending on who is running as a Democrat and how big the tax cut.

How Big? This Big? Bigger? Biggest Tax Cut Ever?
http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/10/final-numbers-are-trumps-t
ax-plan-huge-windfall-wealthy

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:52 PM

So you're just going to keep being a dick then?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 22, 2017 9:44 PM

SIX -That's why I call G "GSTRING" and THGRRI "THUGR". They're trolls and the only thing they know how to do is attack people. That's why their little bully-thread went over to troll country. It's impossible to have a reasoned discussion with them and if you get on their bad side, they'll attack you too.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SIGNYM

Monday, January 23, 2017 12:59 AM

One of the thing is I would like to see about the Inauguration speech is some sort of intelligent analysis.

Entities against:

Nations dependent on America's military without having to bear the cost
NATO: Britain, Canada, Germany, Poland, France, etc (Most really don't pay their fair share)
Israel
Japan (by treaty)
Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE etc

Nations which depend on exporting to the USA for wealth (in order of negative balance of trade)
China
Germany
Japan
Canada
Mexico
And then in no special order Taiwan, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE etc

Transnationals depending on cheap foreign labor, foreign infrastructure, and offshored earnings to maximize profits
Apple, Walmart, Costco, most textile and clothing manufacturers, most chip makers, most chemical industries, steel makers, bankers and speculators (like Soros) etc

International organizations that depend on American financial largesse:
United Nations
International Monetary Fund
World Bank
NGOs

Mixed-allegiance politicians and wonks who don't identify as "American"
Pro-Zionist neocons who are either dual citizens with Israel or act like it: Rumsfeld, Wurmser, Feith, Bolton, Libby, Kagan, Abrams, Armitage, Bergner, Kristol, Perle, Wolfowitz, Woolsey, Zoellick etc, plus the infamous CT Senator Leiberman who once accidentally referred to Israel as "we".

Politicians who trade in identity politics, for whom there is no such thing as an "American" identity unless it is prefixed with black-, Hispanic-, Muslim-, feminist-, gay- etc.

Politicians and wonks who depend on (indirect) foreign contributions - like Hillary and Saudi Arabia
The deep-state (CIA, State Department etc) which enjoy existing in the armpit of foreign and American power

Liberals who conflate America's interests with EVERYONE'S interests, which lead them to feel that American has the right to intervene in every nation.

That's a lot of people who don't want AMERICA FIRST! (And I'm sure I forgot someone along the way)

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SIGNYM

Monday, January 23, 2017 1:01 AM

Now, who might be for AMERICA FIRST?

Also, do we believe that Trump is sincere, or is this just a symptom of another power/economic struggle between "national capitalists" and "transnational capitalists"?

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THGRRI

Monday, January 23, 2017 2:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
One of the thing is I would like to see about the Inauguration speech is some sort of intelligent analysis.

(One of the thing is)

What's that mean SIG. You may want to try ( ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE )

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1KIKI

Monday, January 23, 2017 4:46 AM

My thinking on Trump is that it's less important to hear what he says, and more important to watch what he does.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

SIGNYM

Monday, January 23, 2017 9:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
My thinking on Trump is that it's less important to hear what he says, and more important to watch what he does.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

agreed

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

ELVISCHRIST

Monday, January 23, 2017 9:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:
It's as if you didn't read a single post in this thread.

It's like that even when she reads them. It's almost like there are no other people on this forum.
I DO tend to skip over yours!

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

How very Trumpian of you - just ignore anything you don't like.

Now why don't you present us with a bunch more of your "alternative facts?"

1KIKI

Monday, January 23, 2017 10:08 AM

WHO WON AGAIN? Was that Hillary who - as we now know - was living in fantasy-land?? Or was it Trump, who had a better grasp of what was going on in the real world?

So, why are we to believe you, a deluded dingleberry on Hillary's rectum?

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

SIGNYM

Monday, January 23, 2017 10:09 AM

Quote:
How very Trumpian of you - just ignore anything you don't like.

I have to remind myself :
1)

2) Trump won. Maybe being "Trumpian" isn't such a bad thing.

3) The people who were ignoring what they didn't like were the Hillary supporters.

Quote:
Now why don't you present us with a bunch more of your "alternative facts?"

There is only one set of facts. If you believe there are "alternative" facts, there's your problem right there.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SIGNYM

Monday, January 23, 2017 10:28 AM

Another response to Trump's speech:

Quote:
Alibaba founder Jack Ma has a brutal theory of how America went wrong over the past 30 years

..." American international companies made millions and millions of dollars from globalisation," Ma said. ... "IBM, Microsoft," he added, "the profit they made was larger than the top four banks in China put together ... But where did the money go?"

Ma said that 30 years ago the American companies that people in China heard about were Ford and Boeing. Today the companies that people in China talk about are in Silicon Valley and on Wall Street.

At the same time, the US spent a lot of money on foreign conflicts. "In the past 30 years, America had 13 wars spending $14.2 trillion ... no matter how good your strategy is you're supposed to spend money on your own people," Ma said. "The money goes to Wall Street. Then what happened? Year 2008 wiped out $19.2 trillion in US income ... What if the money was spent on the Midwest of the United States? ... The other countries steal jobs from you guys — that is your strategy. You did not distribute the money in the proper way." http://www.businessinsider.com/alibaba-jack-ma-davos-america-history-g
lobalization-2017-1

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Nobody ‘stealing’ your jobs, you spend too much on wars, Alibaba founder tells US

Over the past thirty years, the Americans had thirteen wars spending 40.2 trillion dollars,” said Ma, speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos. “What if they spent a part of that money on building up the infrastructure, helping the white-collar and the blue-collar workers? No matter how strategically good it is, you’re supposed to spend money on your own people.”

“And the other money which I’m curious about is that when I was young, all I heard about America was Ford and Boeing and those big manufacturing companies. The last 10-20 years, all I heard about is Silicon Valley and Wall Street,” he continued. “And what happened? The year 2008: the financial crisis wiped out 19.2 trillion dollars in the USA alone and destroyed 34 million jobs globally. So what if the spent on Wall Street and the Middle East was spent on the Mid-West of the United States, developing the industry there? That could change a lot.”

Some of it true. If we have spent our money on useful things instead of pointless wars, we would be a lot farther ahead.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SHINYGOODGUY

Monday, January 23, 2017 11:38 AM

Tend to agree that he has put himself out there regarding political hari-kari. Although I didn't watch the debacle, it's fitting that he display his hoof n' mouth routine.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
For some people, a day of happiness and for others a day of dread. Some media people openly speculating on/ wishing for an assassination.

Wow - who did that?

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Obama's inauguration was marred by people who called him a Muslim, a Kenyan, a socialist, and (quietly) an ape, and his Administration (after the first two years, after he had carte blanche) marred by obstructionism from the GOP. The left, at the time, was horrified by the incivility.

Today, I see that nothing has changed except the sides.

America First!

Trump definitely kicked mud on the efforts of the 3 presidents who were in attendance which was bit chill. If he wanted to break from the business as usual mindset he did a great job. Time will tell if that means he has set himself adrift on a political raft built for one.

1KIKI

Monday, January 23, 2017 12:02 PM

Quote:
If we have spent our money on useful things instead of pointless wars, we would be a lot farther ahead.

It depends on who you define as we.

If you mean we, the population of this country, then yes, we would be a lot farther ahead. But if you mean the business elite - I hope you realize that for them, spending their money on us non-entities doesn't increase either their wealth or power. Our benefit comes at their expense and that class of people we would be a lot farther behind. In fact, a bloated military and endless war benefits those we very nicely.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, January 23, 2017 6:07 PM

I love when either side says a majority of Americans lost.

The truth is, a majority of American's didn't vote.

They never do....

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Monday, January 23, 2017 6:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I love when either side says a majority of Americans lost.

The truth is, a majority of American's didn't vote.

They never do....

Why vote when everyone knew Clinton would win anyway?

People who felt Trump would be a bad president felt secure in dissenting from the Democratic Party to either the right (Gary Johnson) or the left (Jill Stein) because everyone knew Clinton would win anyway.

Almost everyone who had any kind of serious policy doubts about Clinton invested vast time and energy in exploring them, regardless of whether or not they had much more profound doubts about Trump, because everyone knew Clinton would win anyway.

Mainstream journalists spent more time poring over potential access-seeking at Clinton’s undoubtedly life-saving charitable foundation than they did detailing the fact that Trump’s foundation was a potentially criminal fraud that appears to have had no legitimate public benefit.

Everyone knew Clinton would win anyway. So why vote? Trump’s opponents failed to unify around a single compelling alternative. He wasn’t popular on Election Day and he wasn’t popular on Inauguration Day. And he’s not doing anything to try to turn that around.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, January 23, 2017 7:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I love when either side says a majority of Americans lost.

The truth is, a majority of American's didn't vote.

They never do....
Why vote when everyone knew Clinton would win anyway?

People who felt Trump would be a bad president felt secure in dissenting from the Democratic Party to either the right (Gary Johnson) or the left (Jill Stein) because everyone knew Clinton would win anyway.

Almost everyone who had any kind of serious policy doubts about Clinton invested vast time and energy in exploring them, regardless of whether or not they had much more profound doubts about Trump, because everyone knew Clinton would win anyway.

Mainstream journalists spent more time poring over potential access-seeking at Clinton’s undoubtedly life-saving charitable foundation than they did detailing the fact that Trump’s foundation was a potentially criminal fraud that appears to have had no legitimate public benefit.

Everyone knew Clinton would win anyway. So why vote? Trump’s opponents failed to unify around a single compelling alternative. He wasn’t popular on Election Day and he wasn’t popular on Inauguration Day. And he’s not doing anything to try to turn that around.

I bet you can't show me a single presidential election where half of the country voted. The numbers really weren't down all that much percentage wise from the last election.

You're right about the media though. Not only did it make lazy democrats stay at home, but it got republicans out to vote that hadn't voted in 20 or more years.

You are aware that that "live saving" charity of the Clintons just shut its doors, right? Seems like no money comes in when Middle Eastern princes and warlords aren't buying themselves a US President.

I think the Clintons either better pay that money back on the sly, or go into hiding. They took some BIG money from some very powerful people I wouldn't want to owe 5 bucks to.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, January 23, 2017 9:23 PM

Turnout for the 2016 election was not nearly as bad as the MSM tells you that it was... unless you want to compare it to the 1800's and/or voter turnout in other industrialized nations in the world.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Monday, January 23, 2017 10:27 PM

Many Americans have abdicated control. They aren’t in charge of themselves. Not voting follows from that. Voting is too much engagement with controlling their own lives. Better to watch life and elections on TV because that takes so much less effort.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THGRRI

Monday, January 23, 2017 10:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
Let's be clear on something: plenty of people stayed home - I'm guessing - because they saw NO ONE they wanted to vote for. I did not want to vote for Hillary, but the idea of Trump in the WH was worse than Palin. Much much much worse, and definitely worse than Clinton. Still, my kingdom for a real, worthy candidate.

Word is, as many as 25% of Trumps supporters comes from an anything but Hilary sentiment, and they are not pleased with Trump so far.

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SECOND

Monday, January 23, 2017 11:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

Word is, as many as 25% of Trumps supporters comes from an anything but Hilary sentiment, and they are not pleased with Trump so far.

Trump brought along his own cheering section when he visited the CIA the day after the inauguration.

CBS News has confirmed about President Trump's visit to the CIA on Saturday:

An official said the visit “made relations with the intelligence community worse” and described the visit as “uncomfortable.”

Authorities are also pushing back against the perception that the CIA workforce was cheering for the president. They say the first three rows in front of the president were largely made up of supporters of Mr. Trump’s campaign.

An official with knowledge of the make-up of the crowd says that there were about 40 people who’d been invited by the Trump, Mike Pence and Rep. Mike Pompeo teams....There were about 400 members of the workforce who RSVP’d for the event out of thousands who received an invitation in their email late last week. Officials dismiss White House claims that there were people waiting to get into the event.

www.cbsnews.com/news/sources-say-theres-a-sense-of-unease-in-intel-com
munity-after-trump-cia-visit/

We now have a president who travels with his own private cheering section and allows the press to film his events only from approved angles that hide this fact. People keep comparing Trump to Mussolini, but I'm beginning to think this might be unfair to Il Duce.

THGRRI

Monday, January 23, 2017 11:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

Word is, as many as 25% of Trumps supporters comes from an anything but Hilary sentiment, and they are not pleased with Trump so far.
Trump brought along his own cheering section when he visited the CIA the day after the inauguration.

CBS News has confirmed about President Trump's visit to the CIA on Saturday:

An official said the visit “made relations with the intelligence community worse” and described the visit as “uncomfortable.”

Authorities are also pushing back against the perception that the CIA workforce was cheering for the president. They say the first three rows in front of the president were largely made up of supporters of Mr. Trump’s campaign.

An official with knowledge of the make-up of the crowd says that there were about 40 people who’d been invited by the Trump, Mike Pence and Rep. Mike Pompeo teams....There were about 400 members of the workforce who RSVP’d for the event out of thousands who received an invitation in their email late last week. Officials dismiss White House claims that there were people waiting to get into the event.

www.cbsnews.com/news/sources-say-theres-a-sense-of-unease-in-intel-com
munity-after-trump-cia-visit/

We now have a president who travels with his own private cheering section and allows the press to film his events only from approved angles that hide this fact. People keep comparing Trump to Mussolini, but I'm beginning to think this might be unfair to Il Duce.

It's very sad he is such a child. I am watching with bated breath to see if his die hard followers continue to dismiss the truth as just lies from the media. I say this because the truth will continue to be called false by this president and as it does his detractors should grow.

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SECOND

Tuesday, January 24, 2017 4:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

It's very sad he is such a child. I am watching with bated breath to see if his die hard followers continue to dismiss the truth as just lies from the media. I say this because the truth will continue to be called false by this president and as it does his detractors should grow.

Stop being so mean to president Trump, his spokesman tells the media in his first real press conference

President Donald Trump is being “demoralized” by the drumbeat of negative press, his spokesman said today in his first official press conference at the White House.

It was a jarring message from a president who relied heavily on name-calling during his campaign, encouraged his fans to harass media, falsely accused his predecessor of being born in Kenya, and has often bragged about his toughness and dislike of “losers.”

https://qz.com/892878/stop-being-so-mean-to-president-trump-spokesman-
sean-spicer-tells-the-media-in-his-first-real-press-conference/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Tuesday, January 24, 2017 4:43 AM

Quote:
President Donald Trump is being “demoralized” by the drumbeat of negative press, his spokesman said today in his first official press conference at the White House.

What Spicer actually said:
“You see this historic thing and he stands there at the capital and you look out and its an amazing view….then to hear ‘Look at this shot, it wasn’t that big’ it is a little demoralizing.”

PLEASE NOTE: he did NOT say Trump was 'being demoralized'.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, January 24, 2017 7:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

Word is, as many as 25% of Trumps supporters comes from an anything but Hilary sentiment, and they are not pleased with Trump so far.

Wow... you mean that people voted for the "lesser of two evils". That's never happened before.

I'd say if he has at least 75% of his voters actually wanting to vote for him, that's a really good number.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Tuesday, January 24, 2017 9:17 AM

Spicer also said “I think it’s just unbelievably frustrating when you’re constantly told ‘It’s not big enough, and not good enough, and you can’t win.'” But what does the word "unbelievably" even mean with a guy like Trump who nonstop spins out one wild fantasy after another?

And what does the word "honestly" mean when Trump uses it?

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:
President Donald Trump is being “demoralized” by the drumbeat of negative press, his spokesman said today in his first official press conference at the White House.
What Spicer actually said:
“You see this historic thing and he stands there at the capital and you look out and its an amazing view….then to hear ‘Look at this shot, it wasn’t that big’ it is a little demoralizing.”

PLEASE NOTE: he did NOT say Trump was 'being demoralized'.

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THGRRI

Tuesday, January 24, 2017 8:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

It's very sad he is such a child. I am watching with bated breath to see if his die hard followers continue to dismiss the truth as just lies from the media. I say this because the truth will continue to be called false by this president and as it does his detractors should grow.
Stop being so mean to president Trump, his spokesman tells the media in his first real press conference

President Donald Trump is being “demoralized” by the drumbeat of negative press, his spokesman said today in his first official press conference at the White House.

It was a jarring message from a president who relied heavily on name-calling during his campaign, encouraged his fans to harass media, falsely accused his predecessor of being born in Kenya, and has often bragged about his toughness and dislike of “losers.”

https://qz.com/892878/stop-being-so-mean-to-president-trump-spokesman-
sean-spicer-tells-the-media-in-his-first-real-press-conference/

I watched that. What Spicer left out was that the press were responding to what Trump said and did. Which is what, totally unorthodox and subject to criticism.

Trump reminds me of 1kiki and SIG here. They blame others for being the way they are, yet the others they blame are not like them at all.

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THGRRI

Tuesday, January 24, 2017 9:02 PM

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THGRRI

Tuesday, January 24, 2017 9:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Word is, as many as 25% of Trumps supporters comes from an anything but Hilary sentiment, and they are not pleased with Trump so far.

Quote:

Wow... you mean that people voted for the "lesser of two evils". That's never happened before.

I'd say if he has at least 75% of his voters actually wanting to vote for him, that's a really good number.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Common Jack think. It doesn't mean that at all.

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THGRRI

Tuesday, January 24, 2017 9:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, January 24, 2017 11:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Word is, as many as 25% of Trumps supporters comes from an anything but Hilary sentiment, and they are not pleased with Trump so far.
Quote:

Wow... you mean that people voted for the "lesser of two evils". That's never happened before.

I'd say if he has at least 75% of his voters actually wanting to vote for him, that's a really good number.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Common Jack think. It doesn't mean that at all.

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What else could it mean? I don't see any other way to read it.

I'm genuinely asking.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Wednesday, January 25, 2017 3:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Word is, as many as 25% of Trumps supporters comes from an anything but Hilary sentiment, and they are not pleased with Trump so far.
Quote:

Wow... you mean that people voted for the "lesser of two evils". That's never happened before.

I'd say if he has at least 75% of his voters actually wanting to vote for him, that's a really good number.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Common Jack think. It doesn't mean that at all.

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What else could it mean? I don't see any other way to read it.

I'm genuinely asking.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

There were 17 republicans who ran in the primaries. None came close to upending Trump. They voted Trump because they were not going to vote for any politician. Not just Hilary. Just because the voted Trump doesn't mean that more than 30%, 40% are going to back what Trump does going forward.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, January 25, 2017 6:44 AM

I'm sure you didn't back everything that Obama did in 8 years either. Where's the news here?

Bottom line is, tough shit. No matter who is president, and no matter if you did or didn't vote for them, you gotta just roll with it. It's been that way since the late 1700s.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm sure you didn't back everything that Obama did in 8 years either. Where's the news here?

Bottom line is, tough shit. No matter who is president, and no matter if you did or didn't vote for them, you gotta just roll with it. It's been that way since the late 1700s.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump's approval rating is like 39%. That's terrible for an incoming president. It says a lot Jack.

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SECOND

Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Bottom line is, tough shit. No matter who is president, and no matter if you did or didn't vote for them, you gotta just roll with it. It's been that way since the late 1700s.

It is not the roll the dice, but Russian roulette. Eight out of 44 Presidents died in Office which means 1.1 chance in 6 of death. Russian roulette is only 1 chance in 6 of death.

If you want to count Nixon as dead by political suicide, the death rate for Presidents is 1.23 chance in 6.

Trump is committing slow political suicide AND he is the oldest President AND he is pissing off angry crazy people with guns. Either by his big mouth or his big stomach or a big bullet with his name on it, Trump could be killing himself.

Four presidents died of natural causes – William Henry Harrison (1841), Zachary Taylor (1850), Warren Harding (1923) and Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1945). Four presidents were assassinated – Abraham Lincoln (1865), James A. Garfield (1881), William McKinley (1901) and John F. Kennedy (1963). There have been numerous attempts, such as the one that put Ronald Reagan in surgery. Woodrow Wilson collapsed and never recovered.
http://timelines.latimes.com/us-presidential-assassinations-and-attemp
ts/

I forgot to mention that a Secret Service agent is under fire after posting she wouldn't take a bullet for Trump. There may be other agents with the same sentiment that they wisely keep secret, which is too bad for Trump.
www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/01/24/secret-serv
ice-agent-kerry-o-grady-social-media-posts/97015422/

Then there is Trump's private security force ‘playing with fire’
www.politico.com/story/2016/12/donald-trump-security-force-232797
“It’s playing with fire,” said Jonathan Wackrow, a former Secret Service agent who worked on President Barack Obama’s protective detail during his 2012 reelection campaign. Having a private security team working events with Secret Service “increases the Service’s liability, it creates greater confusion and it creates greater risk,” Wackrow said.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, January 25, 2017 12:27 PM

Careful there Second. You already admitted to being a gun toting Republican. You're the only one in the RWED that doesn't like Trump. One might think that those are veiled threats.

Never know who is watching us online these days...

Hell, it's not even 3:00AM. Trump is probably up right now Googling himself.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Wednesday, January 25, 2017 6:48 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Careful there Second. You already admitted to being a gun toting Republican. You're the only one in the RWED that doesn't like Trump. One might think that those are veiled threats.

Am I threatening Vice-President Pence, now? SEVEN out of 47 total, about 15% of the VPs, didn’t survive their term. It is a very dangerous job. The vice presidency has been vacant due to resignation or death a total of 37 years and 290 days, about a fifth of the time.

There is a reason why that’s not a better-known fact: it hasn’t happened in the last 100 years. The most recent Vice President to die in office was James Schoolcraft Sherman, VP under President Taft, in 1912.

http://deadpresidents.tumblr.com/post/59019480199/yes-quite-a-few-of-o
ur-vice-presidents-have-died

Come to think of it, Trump is like the Space Shuttle. The chances of it crashing were thought to be only one in a million. Then it blew up. Then the probability of catastrophe was revised, but it again blew up. Trump has a much worse chance of blowing up then the Space Shuttle ever did. There are engineers asserting that Trump has leaky O-rings in his boosters and cracked silica tiles on his wings. But NASA management is not listening to the rocket scientists. And neither is the GOP-controlled Congress listening.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, January 25, 2017 7:16 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Careful there Second. You already admitted to being a gun toting Republican. You're the only one in the RWED that doesn't like Trump. One might think that those are veiled threats.
Am I threatening Vice-President Pence, now? SEVEN out of 47 total, about 15% of the VPs, didn’t survive their term. It is a very dangerous job. The vice presidency has been vacant due to resignation or death a total of 37 years and 290 days, about a fifth of the time.

There is a reason why that’s not a better-known fact: it hasn’t happened in the last 100 years. The most recent Vice President to die in office was James Schoolcraft Sherman, VP under President Taft, in 1912.

http://deadpresidents.tumblr.com/post/59019480199/yes-quite-a-few-of-o
ur-vice-presidents-have-died

Come to think of it, Trump is like the Space Shuttle. The chances of it crashing were thought to be only one in a million. Then it blew up. Then the probability of catastrophe was revised, but it again blew up. Trump has a much worse chance of blowing up then the Space Shuttle ever did. There are engineers asserting that Trump has leaky O-rings in his boosters and cracked silica tiles on his wings. But NASA management is not listening to the rocket scientists. And neither is the GOP-controlled Congress listening.

I dunno. Maybe you are?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Wednesday, January 25, 2017 7:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I dunno. Maybe you are?

My tax cut is a hundred thousand reasons every year to want Trump alive, but when Trump crashes and burns like the Space Shuttle did, twice, he will kill a lot of passengers. Today's Houston Chronicle mentioned that Harris County hospital administrators are worried about their patients losing medical care because of Trump's mindless signing of an executive order wrecking important parts of Obamacare. As usual, Rep. Kevin Brady, R-The Woodlands, who has been leading the charge against the ACA for years, said too bad for you, but not for me.

www.houstonchronicle.com/business/medical/article/Obamacare-repeal-and
-replacement-could-come-with-10880982.php

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:35 PM

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Originally posted by second:
My tax cut is a hundred thousand reasons every year to want Trump alive, but when Trump crashes and burns like the Space Shuttle did, twice, he will kill a lot of passengers. Today's Houston Chronicle mentioned that Harris County hospital administrators are worried about their patients losing medical care because of Trump's mindless signing of an executive order wrecking important parts of Obamacare. As usual, Rep. Kevin Brady, R-The Woodlands, who has been leading the charge against the ACA for years, said too bad for you, but not for me.

You don't care about that money. Actually I'm starting to think that it doesn't really exist in the first place anyways. I don't believe you even tote guns, and I don't believe that you're a Republican either.

You say whatever you want to say and then use examples of extremes from both the left and the right in your life to validate them, or to discredit other opinions.

What kind of job do you have anyway, where your tax CREDIT because of Trump is twice the average American family income? Not tax DEDUCTION, but a full CREDIT. What kind of job is important enough to justify that much compensation, yet you can waste all your energy obsessing about all the terrible things Trump does all day long and post about them here?

Don't you have a job to do? Is somebody really paying you a few millions a year to whine about Trump on a little used forum about a TV show that died 15 years ago?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
My tax cut is a hundred thousand reasons every year to want Trump alive, but when Trump crashes and burns like the Space Shuttle did, twice, he will kill a lot of passengers. Today's Houston Chronicle mentioned that Harris County hospital administrators are worried about their patients losing medical care because of Trump's mindless signing of an executive order wrecking important parts of Obamacare. As usual, Rep. Kevin Brady, R-The Woodlands, who has been leading the charge against the ACA for years, said too bad for you, but not for me.

You don't care about that money. 1) Actually I'm starting to think that it doesn't really exist in the first place anyways. 2) I don't believe you even tote guns, and 3) I don't believe that you're a Republican either.

6ix, you got one out of three right: I'm not a Republican. You probably don't pay attention real well in the real world where life and money are made, but my crack about Republican Rep. Kevin Brady saying too bad for you, but not for me about the end of Obamacare should have reminded you, 6ixStringJack, that I dislike how the mind of a Republican thinks.

Trump just now promised to create 25 million jobs in a decade. There is one for you and every other Ne'er–do–well in America, but Trump might have trouble keeping that promise because his numbers don't add up. Lucky for Trump, people might not care — but then again, they might. Trump went so far as to say he would fulfill “every dream you’ve ever dreamed” and nobody who voted for him even blinked.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/25/14360228/trumps-25-million-j
obs-promise
www.whitehouse.gov/bringing-back-jobs-and-growth

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:36 AM

So what do you do that earns millions of dollars a year yet allows you free time to screw off all day reading liberal media and post on fff.net? I assume you likely spend a lot of time posting to twitter and facebook and other social media as well.

Do Right, Be Right. :)