Fake news, propaganda, and censorship. NOW (2022) with a Ministry of Truth!
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UPDATED: Monday, April 27, 2026 21:49
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
It is no surprise to some of us here that you can not tell what is fake. Why is that? Well, it's due to your opinions and what you post. Nothing but garbage.
Brace yourselves. This will be the dialogue the next four years. Everyone claiming that their news is real news and everything else is fake.
Way to go 24 hour news networks. Now nobody knows what to believe anymore.
Maybe you should go back to actual investigative journalism instead of just having overpaid schills do opinion pieces all day and night.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Just pointing out that - AS USUAL - THUGGER degrades the entire thread by posting nothing but topic-free trolling.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
It is no surprise to some of us here that you can not tell what is fake. Why is that? Well, it's due to your opinions and what you post. Nothing but garbage
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Washington Post Is Richly Rewarded For False News About Russia Threat While Public Is Deceived
Authored by Glenn Greenwald, originally posted at The Intercept, [4]
In the past six weeks, the Washington Post published two blockbuster stories about the Russian threat that went viral: one on [5] how Russia is behind a massive explosion of “fake news,” the other [6] on how it invaded the U.S. electric grid. Both articles were fundamentally false. Each now bears a humiliating editor’s note grudgingly acknowledging that the core claims of the story were fiction: The first note was posted a full two weeks later [7] to the top of the original article; the other was buried the following day [8] at the bottom.
The second story on the electric grid turned out to be far worse than I realized when I wrote about it on Saturday [9], when it became clear that there was no “penetration of the U.S. electricity grid” as the Post had claimed. In addition to the editor’s note, the Russia-hacked-our-electric-grid story now has a full-scale retraction in the form of a separate article [10] admitting that “the incident is not linked to any Russian government effort to target or hack the utility” and there may not even have been malware at all on this laptop.
But while these debacles are embarrassing for the paper, they are also richly rewarding. That’s because journalists — including those at the Post — aggressively hype and promote the original, sensationalistic false stories, ensuring that they go viral, generating massive traffic for the Post (the paper’s executive editor, Marty Baron, recently boasted [11] about how profitable the paper has become).
After spreading the falsehoods far and wide, raising fear levels and manipulating U.S. political discourse in the process (both Russia stories were widely hyped on cable news [12]), journalists who spread the false claims subsequently note the retraction or corrections only in the most muted way possible, and often not at all. As a result, only a tiny fraction of people who were exposed to the original false story end up learning of the retractions.
Baron himself, editorial leader of the Post, is a perfect case study in this irresponsible tactic. It was Baron who went to Twitter on the evening of November 24 to announce the Post’s exposé of the enormous reach of Russia’s fake news operation, based on what he heralded as the findings of “independent researchers.” Baron’s tweet went all over the place; to date, it has been re-tweeted more than 3,000 times, including by many journalists with their own large followings:
But after that story faced a barrage of intense criticism — from Adrian Chen in the New Yorker [15] (“propaganda about Russia propaganda”), Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone [16] (“shameful, disgusting”), my own article [17], and many others — including legal threats from the sites smeared [18] as Russian propaganda outlets by the Post’s “independent researchers” — the Post finally added its lengthy editor’s note distancing itself from the anonymous group that provided the key claims of its story (“The Post … does not itself vouch for the validity of PropOrNot’s findings” and “since publication of the Post’s story, PropOrNot has removed some sites from its list”).
What did Baron tell his followers about this editor’s note that gutted the key claims of the story he hyped? Nothing. Not a word. To date, he has been publicly silent about these revisions. Having spread the original claims to tens of thousands of people, if not more, he took no steps to ensure that any of them heard about the major walk back on the article’s most significant, inflammatory claims. He did, however, ironically find the time to promote a different Post story about how terrible and damaging Fake News is:
Whether the Post’s false stories here can be distinguished from what is commonly called “Fake News” is, at this point, a semantic dispute, particularly since “Fake News” has no cogent definition. Defenders of Fake News as a di
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The Coming Crackdown On Free Speech
By Tyler Durden
Submitted by Simon Black via SovereignMan.com, [4]
It’s amazing what can happen in a week.
Before this publication went on hiatus last week, one of the last letters [5] I wrote to you in 2016 was about the National Defense Authorization Act and its treasure trove of freedom-killing provisions.
Section 1287, for example, creates a new agency called the “Global Engagement Center”, aka Ministry of Truth.
[6]
It has one purpose: to combat fake news.
The Global Engagement Center will fund and train journalists around the world to push a never-ending flow of US propaganda and cripple any independent outlet that doesn’t conform to the official government narrative.
Sadly, this is not unusual.
Each year, Congress creates a new National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which is essentially the military budget for the following year.
But without fail, each year’s NDAA is crammed full of horrific provisions which either waste taxpayer funds on corrupt pet projects, or destroy Americans’ civil liberties.
You may remember the 2012 NDAA, for example, which President Obama signed into law on New Years Eve 2011.
That year’s NDAA contained a section authorizing the military detention of US citizens on US soil.
Now we’re getting the Ministry of Truth.
President Obama signed this year’s NDAA into law on Christmas Day, which means that the Global Engagement Center will be live and operational within six months.
Four days later on December 29th, he issued an executive order intended to punish the Russian government for manipulating the US election.
The order contains some incredibly vague language targeting anyone engaged in “cyber-related activities” that are “reasonably likely” to pose some threat, including “activities to undermine democratic processes or institutions”.
The order also threatens anyone who provides “goods or services” to those engaged in the aforementioned cyber-related activities.
Anyone deemed by the US government to fit those incredibly broad definitions can have their assets frozen instantly.
Now, the spirit of the order is to go after all the Russians and Chinese they think are complicit in hacking the US government and US corporations.
(Mr. Obama also expelled a multitude of Russian diplomats that the FBI suspects of being spies, raising the question of why these people were in the US to begin with.)
Yet such broad and vague language can easily be applied to ensnare just about anyone they want.
If you just happen to have sold a used mobile phone over Craigslist to someone who ends up being a hacker, you can be targeted under this order.
Same with anyone who uses the Internet (engages in “cyber-related activities”) to express strong anti-government opinions (“undermine democratic . . . institutions”).
Now, clearly that’s not the intention with this order.
But when enough time passes, rules and regulations have a strong tendency to be used in ways that dramatically diverge from their original intent.
Case in point: the US government has wrongfully seized billions of dollars worth of cash and property over the years through what’s known as Civil Asset Forfeiture.
Civil Asset Forfeiture is essentially a form of theft.
But it’s perfectly legal for local, state, and federal police agencies to steal from you because of technicalities that were written in laws passed decades ago.
For example, the Archaeological Resources Protection Act was passed in 1979 with the intention of helping to preserve historic sites.
Buried in the law is some vague language authorizing the recovery of any property that was stolen from historic sites.
Now, decades later, police agencies abuse the vague language from that law, as well as dozens of other laws, to give themselves the authority to seize your property.
Their theft of your property has nothing to do with protecting archaeological sites, bu
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Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:Just pointing out that - AS USUAL - THUGGER degrades the entire thread by posting nothing but topic-free trolling.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
It is no surprise to some of us here that you can not tell what is fake. Why is that? Well, it's due to your opinions and what you post. Nothing but garbage
I see you still refuse to acknowledge what I have said many many times here. You SIG and Jaynztown, ARE fake news. So of course I would point that out in this thread. There are others here as well that post proof of your lies daily.
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Originally posted by THUGGER (to 6-string):
It is no surprise to some of us here that you can not tell what is fake. Why is that? Well, it's due to your opinions and what you post. Nothing but garbage.
Quote:AND of course - doubling-down on the topic-free (also fact-free AND evidence free!) trolling, THUGGER then posted this:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Just pointing out that - AS USUAL - THUGGER degrades the entire thread by posting nothing but topic-free trolling.
Quote:THUGGER, maybe 'G' got some pointers from Haken about trolling after his thread got banished to TROLL COUNTRY. You should talk with Haken.
Originally posted by THUGGER:
You SIG and Jaynztown, ARE fake news.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted by THUGGER (to 6-string):
It is no surprise to some of us here that you can not tell what is fake. Why is that? Well, it's due to your opinions and what you post. Nothing but garbage.
I did want to point out that this post by THGRRI was not to me. I did respond to him by saying that we're going to hear a TON of this from both sides in the foreseeable future. At least until the "News" Networks start doing some investigative journalism instead of paying pretty faces to give their opinions on things that may or may not even be true.
That being said, I am quite bothered by the idea that any Government entity within America would be created to combat "fake news". It reeks of Orwellianism, and it's rather terrifying.
Though we may behave like it from time to time, we are not children. We do not need our Government deciding what is True and what is False.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Oh, I see. It was to jt.
Something I've been doing recently is literally just looking over headlines from a dozen or so on-line newspapers and compilers a day - from FOX to Salon, to the BBC, NYTimes, LATimes, Reuters, RT, ZH and English-language foreign sources, and so on. It makes one less encumbered by any one narrative.
Aside from the glaring obviousness that we've been heavily propagandized by our government and the toadying msm, it makes me wonder how ANYone can be so confident they can declare 'the truth' - and how anyone can be such a numbnuts that they believe the claim that it's even possible.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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I agree. I say that you got to believe what you think is true, but always approach it with a healthy dose of skepticism. That goes for anything, not just the news.
Be especially wary when our government decides the narrative.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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MORE FAKE NEWS HERE
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60145&p=4
Printed by the NYTimes and uncritically promoted by two of our resident fake news cheerleaders, 'G' and THUGGER.
Quote:The NYTimes article was later disputed by the BBC.
Gee, I guess many of us were right all along. Imagine that...
http://nyti.ms/2hquET1
Russians No Longer Dispute Olympic Doping Operation
Quote:Yep, the old Gray
http://www.bbc.com/sport/38448842
Russian anti-doping agency denies admitting to existence of doping programme
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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