To those of us who just sold your country down the river...
POSTED BY: Clandestiny
UPDATED: Sunday, November 7, 2004 19:31
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I have a problem with the Flop Flopper charge on most candidates. Even before this election. It implies that it's wrong to change one's mind. Aside from just trying to capture the popular opinion of an issue, it's good that political leaders have the capacity to change their mind or at least make compromises to get things done. I think Lincoln had a great quote on this. Something about if both sides of any issue are angry with you, you're probably right where you need to be.
Maybe Hannity, Limbaugh and their ilk are a minority but they get a lot of air time almost every day. And Hannity is anything but tame.
I think it's obvious that the The Swift Vote .. I mean the Swift Boat Vets are political schills. There is a lot of evidence that indicates that the Republican Party is actually behind them. Whether you agree with him or not at least Moore is doing what he does for a living, nobody asked him. Not to mention the Swift boat ads were placed on national television to see Moore's view point you buy a ticket.
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Hey Tom,
I hope this helps answer your question about Afghanistan. You need to keep in mind the limitations of the available information:
most if not all of the NGOs (non-governmental organizations like the International Red Cross - IRC, Medecines sans Frontieres - Doctors without Borders) etc have pulled out of Afghanistan, and to my knowledge have not returned. Available satellite photo service was bought up by the US government (though Google recently acquired a satellite photo service that may include Afghanistan), and security is bad enough and the story old enough that reporters are no longer stationed across the country. So, much information comes as government press releases. There are stories that I certainly would like to have had a follow-up on: the multi-year drought and the war that had people eating grass and starving to death in remote valleys (is it over?), the halting and feeble start of weapons surrender by the warlords (do they still have their weapons?), security across Afghanistan (is it still lawless?), etc. If you do find additional information, I would appreciate it if you would post links, if they are available.
http://www.brookings.edu/iraqindex
Underneath the paragraph about iraqindex is a paragraph about the afghanistan index with a link. An unpdated PDF is available one or two links on from that.
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/20/swift.assault/
"The swift boat group denies any direct contact with the RNC, the Bush White House or any Republican group."
But:
Following the public revelations that he worked (as legal cousel) for both the Bush campaign and SBVT, Ginsberg resigned. In his resignation letter to Bush he wrote “I have decided to resign as national counsel to your campaign to ensure that the giving of legal advice to decorated military veterans, which was entirely within the boundaries of the law, doesn't distract from the real issues upon which you and the country should be focusing”.
Kenneth Cordier - Former Bush-Cheney campaign advisor - forced to resign after appearing in Swift Boat Veterans for Bush commercial.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html "Records show that the group (SBVT) received the bulk of its initial financing from two men with ties to the president and his family - one a longtime political associate of Mr. Rove's, the other a trustee of the foundation for Mr. Bush's father's presidential library. A Texas publicist who once helped prepare Mr. Bush's father for his debate when he was running for vice president provided them with strategic advice."
It takes only the most rudimentary search to find scores of connections between SBVT and the Bush White House, his advisors, Republican donors, the campaign etc.
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