Have Western Neo-Feminists now destoryed 'The West'?

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WISHIMAY

Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:34 PM

Can you idiots seriously not think for yourself without youtube??

WISHIMAY

Thursday, January 5, 2017 11:04 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/10/parents-kill-chil
dren-fbi-data/15280259/

•Fathers are more likely to kill. Men killed six out 10 children, most often beating or shooting them. Fathers were at fault in 75% of cases when children were shot to death by a parent and in 64% of cases when a child was beaten. "Violence is a masculine pursuit," says Jack Levin, a Northeastern University criminologist.
•When mothers kill, they are far more likely to kill victims under the age of 1 than children of any other age. Nearly 40% of all children killed by their mothers were less than a year old.

So, women kill because of sleep deprivation and hormones, and men kill because they are short-tempered assholes...

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, January 5, 2017 2:19 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
So, women kill because of sleep deprivation and hormones

Wow.... talk about victim blaming....

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, January 5, 2017 6:27 PM

I don't know if there is much truth or much to be gained from this stuff but there is a huge amount of material out there from the whole 'Men Go Their Own' or 'Red Pill' or 'Mens Rights' or 'Go Your Own Way' on the internet

MGTOW growing?
http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow-lounge/mgtow-growing-9003/
Rejecting Modern Women, The Marriage Strike Hitting Women Hard, Why Men Arent Dating Women
http://www.the-niceguy.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=67317
current cultural climate
http://www.mgtowhq.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10589
America: What went wrong?
http://happybachelorsforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1659

as controversial as you get?

Esther Vilar - The Manipulated Man
(German: Der Dressierte Mann) is a 1971 book by author Esther Vilar. The main idea behind the book is that women are not oppressed by men but rather control men to their advantage. A third edition of the book was released in January 2009.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manipulated_Man
The book argues that, contrary to common feminist and women's rights rhetoric, women in industrialized cultures are not oppressed, but rather exploit a well-established system of manipulating men.

Vilar writes, "Men have been trained and conditioned by women, not unlike the way Pavlov conditioned his dogs, into becoming their slaves. As compensation for their labours men are given periodic use of a woman's vagina." The book contends that young boys are encouraged to associate their masculinity with their ability to be sexually intimate with a woman, and that a woman can control a man by socially empowering herself to be the gate-keeper to his sense of masculinity. Vilar states that this has been going on for some time.

Women Never Change

'Black Pill' moment in Matrix

P$rn No Longer For Men - MGTOW

The Advertisement of Love

The Exploitation Of Male Virtues

Girlfriend Pregnant By Another Man - Tom Leykis Show

Best "You are not the father" reaction on Maury

double-standards of welfare reform

News: Single Mothers Are Cancer
Turd Flinging Monkey

The Manipulated Man was quite popular at the time of its release, in part due to the considerable press coverage it received.

Vilar appeared on The Tonight Show on February 21, 1973, to discuss her book. In 1975 she was invited to a televised debate by WDR with Alice Schwarzer, who was considered as the leading representative of the women's movement in Germany at that time. The debate provoked controversy, in particular for its high degree of aggression. At one point, for example, Schwarzer claimed Vilar was "not only sexist, but fascist", and compared her book with the Nazi newspaper Der Stürmer.

Vilar stated that she received death threats over the book:

So I hadn't imagined broadly enough the isolation I would find myself in after writing this book. Nor had I envisaged the consequences which it would have for subsequent writing and even for my private life - violent threats have not ceased to this date

WISHIMAY

Thursday, January 5, 2017 9:34 PM

So, you really CAN'T think for yourself, and you aren't even going to address ANY of the facts about men and violence.

Gotcha.

BTW, my husband used ME. I owned the mobile home and HIS lease was up on his apartment and he had nowhere else to go. He had NO idea how much he owned in student loans.

I contacted his creditors, I put them on MY good credit, I paid them off.
I make his appointments, get his pills and supplements and deal with insurance, and run interference with his insufferable family. When he gets a leg cramp, I'm there with a hot water bottle and an aspirin. I mow the lawn, I order the supplies for remodeling the house and even built the bathroom and sided the house ON MY OWN, I wash an average of 12 loads of laundry and seven loads of dishes EVERY WEEK, I take out the trash, I make the meals, I still see that the bills are paid, I walk the dog. I plan the vacations on a shoestring budget. I'm the one that paid for having a child with MY HEALTH, for the rest of MY LIFE. I suffer the effects of his mental illness. His pills wear off and he turns into one of you morons. Uncommunicative and violent.

I even diagnosed him, and my daughter. Their health is infinitely better just because I exist.

FUCK YOU TO DEATH.

There is NOTHING about being a housewife that is EASY, and men DEFINITELY have all the advantages. I have the same health conditions my grandpa had, and they treated him like a saint. I get told "well, see a doctor" and shrugged off. I have to do everything I do, and I would actually qualify for being disabled.

All he has to do is go to work 5 days a week. I haven't had a weekend "OFF" in 18 years. I would LOOOOVE to just "go to a job."

If you can't find a woman to help you, I assure you, you are undeserving.
Being married to a good woman is a PRIVELEDGE.

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, January 6, 2017 6:55 AM

How far can Socialism lead?

Single Mothers and the Welfare State

Let's go with a SUPER QUOTE from....a red pill blog

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Here's the backstory: I occasionally indulge in some friendly Twitter engagement with feminists, taking a strong anti-feminist position. I'm openly and un-apologetically acting as an agent provocateur, Understand, while this may be seen as trolling, I am extremely polite in my engagements with feminists and never cross the line into "bullying". That doesn't mean that some don't get hurt feelings, but in most cases that was a pre-existing condition.

Now, while many of you will shake your heads over the utility or the practicality of attempting such engagement, I do so for higher purpose, not just because I like yanking pigtails. I'm not there to make feminists mad, I'm there to challenge and give honest criticism, to make them think more than to make them angry. I'm laying out, in as practical and simple terms as I can, why the Manosphere and men in general have taken issue with feminism, as it has presented itself. I've done this over and over again, searching for a unicorn: a feminist who is willing to look past the rhetoric of the feminist movement and address the issues with it that men and the Manosphere have.

Why would I want to do such a perverse thing? While it would be much easier to just hurl mindless vitriol, as I said, I'm not into yanking pigtails for fun. My goal is to actually open some sort of reasonable dialog between the two spheres.

So, after responding to a fairly reasonable post by a young feminist woman who was confused and upset by the anger she detected from the anti-feminist movement on the #HowToSpotAFeminist hashtag which started to get meme-y (and then posting my reply to as many retweeters of the original as I could find) a bold feminist unicorn stood forth from the herd, and responded on her blog.

To avoid any miscommunication, I'd like to reprint her post in its entirety before I respond:

Hi Ian,

thanks for your thoughtful response! I appreciate your civil discourse and lack of ad hominem attacks. Seriously.

Due to your lack of actual citation beyond the link to a blog post that itself looks at largely anecdotal data, I will also respond using broad strokes and summaries. I can provide factual citation and data from research on historical trends from non-biased sources as requested, if necessary. Also, while gender and sexuality are multivariate, not binary, in order to most directly and efficiently respond to your letter, I will mostly be talking about feminism in largely binary terms.

So, I see your hurt feelings. They are true and valid. I will not dispute that they exist. However, I think that there’s some conflation going on assigning causality in incorrect ways. I am not saying that nothing was done, or that no one did anything. Things were done. People did them. But from where I’m standing, there’s been some conflation of separate entities in what all went down.

Yes, feminism has pointed out that there are issues that exist with men, masculinity, fatherhood, and male sexuality. It has not, however, said that those categories are the issues. They have the issues. And lots of those issues have affected women at a systemic and subsequently individual level. Yes, women, femininity, motherhood, and female sexuality also have issues. And those issues have affected men on a systemic and subsequently individual level. But feminism posits, with the whole of history that I won’t repeat here to back it up, that men’s issues have had the harder hit, when it comes to the way society has shown bruises. The phrase “it’s a man’s world” is an incredibly crude phrase, but it is a good summary of what the main problem throughout history has boiled down to.

You say that feminism has not been inclusive of men’s issues. I say that this is an unfair critique. Every activist movement only has so many resources to go around. You wouldn’t cr

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, January 6, 2017 7:08 AM

The Red Pill: the movie about men that feminists didn’t want you to see
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/the-red-pill-the-movie-abo
ut-men-that-feminists-didnt-want-you-t/

The Red Pill Room new history?
https://theredpillroom.blogspot.com

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Originally posted by Wishimay:

FUCK YOU TO DEATH.

LMFAO....I always find the 'red button' and you Wishimay are the ultimate Man-hating stereotype maybe not now but you will get there...eventually you might even shoot some white male....you project so easily, yes you probably do so much good but something eats at you constantly inside and in the end you care little for your civilization, your tribe or your country...maybe you are incredibly loyal and work amazingly hard for your own close family I give you that
but that anger you have, its going to rot you, eat your body, destroy your mind, maybe rot you to the core

in the terrorist attack in San Bernardino....you immediately tried to lay the blame on evil white males, evil white American men with guns if I recall
now we have four hoodrats, they kidnap and torture mentally-challenged man, chanting anti-Trump slogans
...again you managed to try turn the thread around by blaming...yes once Again - White American Men
...I think you said something like if it was the white guy doing the attacks none of those people would be alive...white California males are statistically more likely to murder or some weirdass statistic?
one of them the leaders of the gang
once again
A WOMAN, not a whiteman but a black woman

....don't worry eventually you will get things right

even a blind man throwing darts at the dart board in the dark will eventually hit the target
a news item will pop up
you will truly have something to feed the rage

and you will finally have your excuse to flip out, buy your gun and go postal
and claim years of 'abuse' or some shit

I asked you before
will ask you once again if you are so fucking unhappy to the point of your fucking insanity, what's to stop you from walking out
Going off into the sunset with some girlfriend and having your thelma and louise sista-hood so to seak

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, January 6, 2017 7:28 AM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Wonder why Canada's not on the list. Outside of people older than me, my friends who are in my age bracket have been divorced or never married but have lived "common law"

Not sure, will have to chat again with Canadians about this

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
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Has feminism broke the US family? Seems maybe some relationships have got more shallow or people have become more hollow, No Debate together, No Interests, Self Centered. The young generation are becoming more empty Miley Cyrus tastes in music, shopping for usless hangbags and fashion items, I-phone hedonistic stoner culture....is it any wonder its all failing...and the men are leaving the family game....they want to sit at home on their own buy their own car, drink their beer, play their Xbox and Playstation, watch the Baseball and Basketball until these men go old

The cause is capitalism not feminism, you nit.

Maybe it is Capitalism, I did not put the blame on Feminism I simply asked the question. I can happily be convinced 'Capitalism' is to blame for much of Americas and the West's society issues and blamed for the social ills

ECS33

Saturday, January 7, 2017 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

Modern feminism seems a little lost now.

You have a REDICULOUSLY, hilariously one sided perspective. Not gettin' any?

P.s. Most....wait....ALL of the women I know in person over forty never want to marry again. After getting stuck with scrubs that are drunken narcissists, cheaters, abusive dicks that are INCAPABLE of communicating, I don't blame them.

Should my own dearest depart, I won't ever re-marry. No more slaving to make meals that are unappreciated or watch macho crap movies or clean pee dribble off a toilet ever again. My day will be my own.

Oh, and I kill my own spiders and fix my own appliances and plumbing, thanks. Thanks to sperm banks you have made YOURSELVES TOTALLY IRRELEVANT.

HERE'S TO THE RISE OF THE DAY OF WOMANKIND

Meh..I'm an engaged 29 year old male. I make about $100k a year while my spouse makes $30k as a flight attendant. She literally expects to have equal household chores despite the fact that I'm going to be funding the vast majority of everything. Why should I do this? I could probably buy the $350k house on my own and park it with a luxury car, still save money, and occasionally have sex with much hotter girls while living wholly under my terms instead of funding someone else's terms/dreams. And even if that is delusional, I always have pornography.

Feminism is the thing that is giving girls the best of every world at the expense of giving guy the worst of every world. There is literally no reason for a high paid man to marry a low paid woman if that woman expects "equality." She should have thought about that before dropping out of college and spending years in an ED clinic. If she made over half of what I made, I may feel a bit better about things.

Feminism makes a woman's income matter when it comes to courting, because men are losing all the other benefits.

WISHIMAY

Saturday, January 7, 2017 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by JACKASS

eventually you might even shoot some white male....

I don't OWN a gun, dickless wonder. I'm sure you have a whole closetful. You are then far more likely to get shot.

I STILL don't see you addressing the stats that men of EVERY race are more violent. You kill TRIPLE the amount of children, you are in jail 10 times as much, you annihilate entire families, you beat, rape, steal and lie more than women AND YOU THINK WOMEN ARE THE PROBLEM??? Delusional, oblivious, and stupid is no way to go through life.

YOU are the problem. YOU have always been the problem, and always WILL be the problem with this planet.

I won't leave because I made a vow. I'm sure you wouldn't even understand the concept. The funny thing is you think women EVERYWHERE don't do all these things and MORE because men are giant babies who are opposed to cleaning up after themselves. Wallow in your own filth with a microwave burrito. My family is getting a four star dinner tonight.

I repeat .....delusional, oblivious, and stupid.

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