Have Western Neo-Feminists now destoryed 'The West'?

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SIGNYM

Sunday, January 17, 2016 9:58 PM

The article that you linked says ....

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Women are no longer economically dependent on men, jobs have dried up for working-class men, and unwed parenthood is no longer especially stigmatized. The proportion of children raised in single-parent homes has, as a consequence, risen from 5 percent in 1960 to about 30 percent now.

Conservatives have called for the restoration of marriage as the best way to reduce poverty and other social ills. However, they have not figured out how to do this.

The George W. Bush administration funded a series of marriage education programs that failed to move the needle in any significant way. The Clinton administration reformed welfare to require work and thus reduced any incentive welfare might have had in encouraging unwed childbearing. The retreat from marriage has continued despite these efforts. We are stuck with a problem that has no clear governmental solution, although religious and civic organizations can still play a positive role.

Among single women under the age of 30, 73 percent of all pregnancies are, according to the woman herself, either unwanted or badly mistimed. Some of these women will go on to have an abortion but 60 percent of all of the babies born to this group are unplanned.

So, is the problem a marriage problem, or a childraising problem? Do you fix it by encouraging marriage? Or do you fix it by by delaying childbirth? Is childbirth supposed to happen when women are (1) in a long-term contractual relationship with a man or (2) financially able to raise a child alone?

The reality is that men and women, and couples, respond to long-term trends just like any category of people. Activities that are dis-incentivized and unrewarded will be avoided, and activities that are rewarded will be sought out.

For example having children is costly - not just in terms of money, but in terms of opportunity and time. Instead of focusing on work, education ... or partying ... a young woman with a child will go through many sleepless nights, and spend the next five years (until child is ready for K-garten) focusing on dirty diapers, toilet-training, feeding, minding, and teaching her child, and trying to get some help from someone else with the myriad of tasks. That lifestyle expense is why Hispanic immigrants coming from a rural background where 12-13 children were the norm (I kid you not, I know three such women) quickly throttle back to six, two, or one child when more diverse opportunities present themselves.

Also, the rewards and disincentives are NOT uniform across-the-board. A young woman of color generally doesn't have the same opportunities of a young white woman, so a woman of color doesn't "lose" as much when she has a child at a young age. If you want to "even that out" you have to even out the opportunities.

I agree with you that children do best when they have a male figure in their lives. I observe how involved fathers treat their children - including their daughters. They tend to roughhouse more. Be more active. Demand greater performance. Women tend to be more solicitous, but women want GOOD children who don't take a lot of care. Men tend bring a wilder element to the equation. As you know, our daughter was born with a brain bleed, and as a result is permanently brain-damaged. Most men would have left (statistically true), hubby has stuck it out. Raising our child to achieve the most that she is capable of has been a challenge, we have had to make some horrifically important decisions and his input on those and the day-to-day has been priceless. (And actually, so was my sis'. It does indeed take a village- especially if you have a compromised child.)

So, as far as MEN being fathers ... well, are men interested in it???

I don't know- look at JACK. Nice enough guy, but 100% interested in himself, his videogames, hot babes, and in the stinkin'-thinkin' that comes of being an alcoholic.

Not fatherhood material. Probably only good as that uncle who show up on

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, January 24, 2016 3:15 AM

I have a friend who blames it on 'her mum' or the in-laws, he says the in-law of an American girl or Western woman mother-in-law is a very difficult creature to put up with.

WISHIMAY

Sunday, January 24, 2016 10:07 AM

My family has been mostly non-existent in our marriage.

It's HIS family that's the freaking Barone's from Everybody Loves Raymond.

You generalize like an idiot.

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:43 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
I have a friend who blames it on 'her mum' or the in-laws, he says the in-law of an American girl or Western woman mother-in-law is a very difficult creature to put up with.

Well, if you want to talk about MIL-problems, I (female) lived with MY MIL, and it was a struggle for control - especially as she was very passive-aggressive.

The problem works in both directions, buddy! I very much doubt that is the source of the problem. I think the reality is that people of both sexes are encouraged to be vapid, shallow, individualistic consumers who have no loyalty to each other, no real roles of importance, and no interaction with each other except mutual predation and mutual masturbation.

It's not a problem with women, it's not a problem with men, it's a problem with society. And it certainly won't get fixed with one sex pointing the finger at the other.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

WISHIMAY

Monday, January 25, 2016 2:29 AM

Bwa-ha bwah bwah bwah!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3414667/Twitter-user-shames-
male-trolls-slam-women-posing-half-naked-sharing-shirtless-images-alongside-hateful-words.html

And ya wonder why people don't wanna get married...

WISHIMAY

Monday, January 25, 2016 2:39 AM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
The young generation are becoming more empty Miley Cyrus tastes in music, shopping for usless hangbags and fashion items, I-phone hedonistic stoner culture....

Young people have always been generally hedonistic and superficial.

Think Opium and Laudanum and Absinthe and that plant that worked so well in ancient days for contraception that it went EXTINCT.

There will always be people who are traditional and get married either because of naivety or religion, just as there will always be people who are only capable of downing the nearest pharmaceutical and becoming parents from hell.

Welcome to Earth, you just fall off the turnip truck YESTERDAY?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, January 26, 2016 3:55 AM

Seriously....

Any American Girl today that is over 24 years old.... her parents better pay a WHOLE TON OF SHEEP...

Most of them are full to the top of their tits with attitude and no substance to back their mediocire tits and fading youth up....

Basically, they're worthless...

EDITED TO ADD: The ONLY reason that Women are legally told to us that they're financially worth anything after they're too old to pretend they're anybody's sexy older sister is because of some bullshit Supreme Court Case that happened before most of us were born....

The only thing that women are GREAT at doing is manipulating sympathy from a group of 13 strangers and making a man pay for her shortcomings...

you get married to an American Woman, you get what you deserve....

a ZERO % investment on your return, is all...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, January 26, 2016 4:11 AM

Most American Women can't even sell it anymore because they hate themselves more than American Men hate them...

Everything they do is deplorable and worthy of hate.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, January 26, 2016 4:20 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

you get married to an American Woman, you get what you deserve....

a ZERO % investment on your return, is all...

AND YOU WOULD KNOW?

Dude, you are an old, drunk, out of shape, unemployed, stoner, by your own admission.

You put so much stock in the way a woman looks, or what SHE's worth when your own value is dropping by the second.

I spent half my day today navigating insurance and healthcare nonsense just to fill ONE of HIS prescriptions, making dinner, washing dishes, ran to the store for yet another of his obsessive wants, and then did three loads of laundry.

WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU SPENT AN ENTIRE DAY'S EFFORT ON SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOURSELF???

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, January 26, 2016 4:24 AM

Trent Reznor gave his life to a woman back when he was a feeble man, made of skin and bones....

Years before he bulked up and told GWB to go fuck himself...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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