Fake news, propaganda, and censorship. NOW (2022) with a Ministry of Truth!
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WOW the WaPo is taking a beating!
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Exclusive: Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking - sources
The overseers of the U.S. intelligence community have not embraced a CIA assessment that Russian cyber attacks were aimed at helping Republican President-elect Donald Trump win the 2016 election, three American officials said on Monday.
While the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) does not dispute the CIA's analysis of Russian hacking operations, it has not endorsed their assessment because of a lack of conclusive evidence that Moscow intended to boost Trump over Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, said the officials, who declined to be named.
The position of the ODNI, which oversees the 17 agency-strong U.S. intelligence community, could give Trump fresh ammunition to dispute the CIA assessment, which he rejected as "ridiculous" in weekend remarks, and press his assertion that no evidence implicates Russia in the cyber attacks.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-intelligence-idUSKBN14204E
If anything, the CIA is the agency which is attempting to subvert our election. The CIA needs its balls broken, the fuckers.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
"If I could write inflammatory commentary to scorch the eye brows and lashes off Trump, Signym or 1kiki, I would.- SECOND"
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"Fake news" discussions always remind me of this
Consider how life in North America is going....
social media
hatred of cops
racism
media distrust
etc.
Makes one wonder
You should watch some of this, DEVERSE. I think we let the ad agencies and government propagandists subvert us. And we did it all on our own.
From "Amazing Documentary Century of Self"
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61023
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61023
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
"If I could write inflammatory commentary to scorch the eye brows and lashes off Trump, Signym or 1kiki, I would.- SECOND"
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Quote:Are you that uninformed?
What's this have to do with WaPo?- GSTRING
I have to say, whatever ails you, son ... there's no pill for it. Maybe an enema would help.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
"If I could write inflammatory commentary to scorch the eye brows and lashes off Trump, Signym or 1kiki, I would.- SECOND"
Hillary knew all about the Electoral College when she ran for office. All of this after-the-fact bitching is still just an attempt to rewrite history. I guess you're all still in various stages of grief, including anger, denial, and bargaining, all rol
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Usually, when someone makes a bold statement to start a post: "Wow! The WaPo is sure taking a beating!" they follow that up with information that supports it- GSTRING
HEY STUPID!
Over here!
Now focus .... focus....
It was the WaPo that published the article Prop or Not? which had to withdraw support for the findings of the "anonymous" organization which listed roughly 200 sites as sources of "Russian propaganda" ...
... and which bannered Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House.
Through the entire election, WaPo has been consistently pushing the "but Putin!" meme, whipping up pointless and strikingly evidence-free hysteria. (Yanno, kind of like you.) When people have to amp up the FUD* factor, you know they don't have a case.
*fear, uncertainty, and doubt
In any case WaPo was throughly debunked by Glenn Greenwald, a darling of the liberal left, so I assume you approve of this source:
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Anonymous Leaks to the WashPost About the CIA’s Russia Beliefs Are No Substitute for Evidence
The Washington Post late Friday night published an explosive story that, in many ways, is classic American journalism of the worst sort: The key claims are based exclusively on the unverified assertions of anonymous officials, who in turn are disseminating their own claims about what the CIA purportedly believes, all based on evidence that remains completely secret. https://theintercept.com/2016/12/10/anonymous-leaks-to-the-washpost-ab
out-the-cias-russia-beliefs-are-no-substitute-for-evidence/
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
"If I could write inflammatory commentary to scorch the eye brows and lashes off Trump, Signym or 1kiki, I would.- SECOND"
Hillary knew all about the Electoral College when she ran for office. All of this after-the-fact bitching is still just an attempt to rewrite history. I guess you're all still in various stages of grief, including anger, denial, and bargaining, all rol
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Quote:Those are QUITE OBVIOUSLY OPINIONS, not presented as, or meant to be taken as, fact.
"Hillary is going to start WWIII? HIllary is near death?"
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Now THIS, otoh, is a recent and very elaboration form of fake news. NONE of the vital claims made are linked to any source or evidence, while many completely trivial items (company home web-pages for example) are.
Quote:Yep, it was Russian, it was cyberpower, and it invaded the US. It must be true because the paper says so.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/russia-hack-election-dnc
.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
The Perfect Weapon: How Russian Cyberpower Invaded the US.
Quote:This is just mind-boggling. Tamene could have asked for directions on how to call in to the FBI using a number he knew to be valid - a govt directory search for example, on how to work his way over to Hawkins from there.
By ERIC LIPTON, DAVID E. SANGER and SCOTT SHANEDEC. 13, 2016
WASHINGTON — When Special Agent Adrian Hawkins of the Federal Bureau of Investigation called the Democratic National Committee in September 2015 to pass along some troubling news about its computer network, he was transferred, naturally, to the help desk.
His message was brief, if alarming. At least one computer system belonging to the DNC had been compromised by hackers federal investigators had named “the Dukes,”* https://labsblog.f-secure.com/2015/09/17/the-dukes-7-years-of-russian-
cyber-espionage/ a cyberespionage team linked to the Russian government.
The FBI knew it well: The bureau had spent the last few years trying to kick the Dukes out of the unclassified email systems of the White House, the State Department and even the Joint Chiefs of Staff, one of the government’s best-protected networks.
Yared Tamene, the tech-support contractor at the DNC who fielded the call, was no expert in cyberattacks. His first moves were to check Google for “the Dukes” and conduct a cursory search of the DNC computer system logs to look for hints of such a cyberintrusion. By his own account, he did not look too hard even after Special Agent Hawkins called back repeatedly over the next several weeks — in part because he wasn’t certain the caller was a real FBI agent and not an impostor.
“I had no way of differentiating the call I just received from a prank call,” Mr. Tamene wrote in an internal memo, obtained by The New York Times, that detailed his contact with the FBI.
Quote:claims made with no evidence provided
It was the cryptic first sign of a cyberespionage and information-warfare campaign devised to disrupt the 2016 presidential election,
Quote:claims made with no evidence provided
the first such attempt by a foreign power in American history. What started as an information-gathering operation, intelligence officials believe, ultimately morphed into an effort to harm one candidate, Hillary Clinton, and tip the election to her opponent, Donald J. Trump.
Like another famous American election scandal, it started with a break-in at the DNC The first time, 44 years ago at the committee’s old offices in the Watergate complex, the burglars planted listening devices and jimmied a filing cabinet. This time, the burglary was conducted from afar, directed by the Kremlin, with spear-phishing emails and zeros and ones.
Quote:claims made with no evidence provided
What is phishing?
Phishing uses an innocent-looking email to entice unwary recipients to click on a deceptive link, giving hackers access to their information or a network. In “spear-phishing,” the email is tailored to fool a specific person.
An examination by The Times of the Russian operation
Quote:thanks to disinterest, lack of effort, and lack of basic skills
— based on interviews with dozens of players targeted in the attack, intelligence officials who investigated it and Obama administration officials who deliberated over the best response — reveals a series of missed signals, slow responses and a continuing underestimation of the seriousness of the cyberattack.
The DNC’s fumbling encounter
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""Hillary's near death" was trotted out as FACT with all sorts of links to "Drs." for the appearance of extra truthiness and validity."
I don't recall anyone claiming she was near death, but I do recall people saying she had serious health issues BASED ON VIDEOS OF ABNORMAL BEHAVIOR. Are you saying the videos are fake?
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Senate Quietly Passes The "Countering Disinformation And Propaganda Act"
While we wait to see if and when the Senate will pass (and president will sign) Bill "H.R. 6393, Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2017", which was passed by the House at the end of November with an overwhelming majority and which seeks to crack down on websites suspected of conducting Russian propaganda and calling for the US government to "counter active measures by Russia to exert covert influence … carried out in coordination with, or at the behest of, political leaders or the security services of the Russian Federation and the role of the Russian Federation has been hidden or not acknowledged publicly,” another, perhaps even more dangerous and limiting to civil rights and freedom of speech bill passed on December 8.
Recall that as we reported in early June, "a bill to implement the U.S’s very own de facto Ministry of Truth has been quietly introduced in Congress. As with any legislation attempting to dodge the public spotlight the Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act of 2016 marks a further curtailment of press freedom and another avenue to stultify avenues of accurate information. Introduced by Congressmen Adam Kinzinger and Ted Lieu, H.R. 5181 seeks a “whole-government approach without the bureaucratic restrictions” to counter “foreign disinformation and manipulation,” which they believe threaten the world’s “security and stability.”
Also called the Countering Information Warfare Act of 2016 (S. 2692), when introduced in March by Sen. Rob Portman, the legislation represents a dramatic return to Cold War-era government propaganda battles. “These countries spend vast sums of money on advanced broadcast and digital media capabilities, targeted campaigns, funding of foreign political movements, and other efforts to influence key audiences and populations,” Portman explained, adding that while the U.S. spends a relatively small amount on its Voice of America, the Kremlin provides enormous funding for its news organization, RT. “Surprisingly,”
{ We outspend everybody by more then an order of magnitude. }
Portman continued, “there is currently no single U.S. governmental agency or department charged with the national level development, integration and synchronization of whole-of-government strategies to counter foreign propaganda and disinformation.”
Long before the "fake news" meme became a daily topic of extensive conversation on wuch mainstream fake news portals as CNN and WaPo, H.R. 5181 would rask the Secretary of State with coordinating the Secretary of Defense, the Director of National Intelligence, and the Broadcasting Board of Governors to “establish a Center for Information Analysis and Response,” which will pinpoint sources of disinformation, analyze data, and — in true dystopic manner — ‘develop and disseminate’ “fact-based narratives” to counter effrontery propaganda.
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Fast forward to this past Thursday, December 8, when the "Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act" passed in the Senate, quietly inserted inside the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) Conference Report.
Here is the full statement issued by the generously funded Senator Rob Portman (R- Ohio) on the passage of a bill that further chips away at press liberties in the US, and which sets the stage for a future with hunts and website shutdowns, purely as a result of an accusation that any one media outlet or site is considered as a source of "disinformation and propaganda" and is shut down by the government.
{ Determined by whom. }
Senate Passes Major Portman-Murphy Counter-Propaganda Bill as Part of NDAA
Portman/Murphy Bill Promotes Coordinated Strategy to Defend America, Allies Against Propaganda and Disinformation from Russia, China & Others
U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-OH) and Chris Murphy (D-CT) today announced that their Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act – legislation designed to help American
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‘Sniffers & Taps on Journalists’ – WikiLeaks Publishes New Leaked Emails
housands of leaked emails from a US cybersecurity contractor, which discussed targeting journalists and governments, have been published by WikiLeaks.
WikiLeaks published thousands of leaked emails from a US cybersecurity contractor, which discussed targeting journalists and governments, in order to mark the release of Texas journalist Barrett Brown, who spent almost two years in federal prison for his work in reporting on the HBGary leaks and the 2012 hack of the private intelligence company Stratfor.
RELEASE: Over 60,000 emails from US cyber-intelligence contractor #HBGary now searchable https://t.co/85yECxFmZu @ggreenwald #FreeBB pic.twitter.com/zBLaGEjKIY
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) November 29, 2016
Hacktivist collective Anonymous first obtained emails of HBGary Federal in February 2011. On Tuesday, these 60,000 emails were for the first time published by WikiLeaks in the form of a searchable database. Among other things, the HBGary Federal emails include a proposal of HBGary executive Greg Hoglund to spy on Russia, using the cellphone’s operators of Mobile TeleSystems (MTS) and Vimpelcom, and wireless “sniffers.” It was a hint at capabilities of the NSA, before whistleblower Edward Snowden disclosed them in 2013.
Bank of America/Palintir/HBGary combined WikiLeaks attack plan. You can find more here: https://t.co/85yECxFmZu pic.twitter.com/huNtfJp8gl
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) November 29, 2016
“NSA has all the collection resources you could imagine, CIA likewise has operatives coming out the wazooo. What they don’t have is an ability to manage complex campaigns,” Hoglund wrote in 2010.
HBGary CEO Aaron Barr decided to go even further and discussed the plan of infiltration in groups and governments, using social media, by setting up fake “personas.”
“I will create a few personas for the executive members of the company so there can be some email traffic. You will at some point be able to use this guys [sic] accounts as compromised,” Barr wrote. “If this looks too big we could probably pitch this as a whitepaper to either a large defense contractor like Mantech,” he added.
After the 2011 hack and the following scandal, Barr had to resign. The Virginia-based ManTech bought HBGary, and the HBGary Federal subsidiary was shut down.
HBGary also cooperated with Palantir Technologies, a big data analysis company serving the US military and intelligence communities, on a project, targeting WikiLeaks and its volunteers, pitched to Bank of America before some of the bank’s documents were released by the whistleblowing organization.
Part of the strategy was aimed on persecution of journalists, who supported the work of WikiLeaks, including Glenn Greenwald, who is currently the editor of The Intercept and publishes disclosures of Snowden.
“Without the support of people like Glenn [WikiLeaks] would fold,” a presentation by Palantir, HBGary and Berico Technologies said.
An email from Barr to Palantir engineer Matthew Steckman, dated by December 2010, gives a glimpse into how the presentation was put together.
“These are established proffessionals [sic] that have a liberal bent, but ultimately most of them if pushed will choose professional preservation over cause,” Barr wrote. That exact line made it into the presentation, which also included a detailed dossier on Julian Assange, a WikiLeaks co-founder.
Creating messages intended to “sabotage or discredit the opposing organization,” as well as “disinformation” were among the proposed strategies.
The presentation proposed to “submit fake documents and then call out the error,” – a tactic, which was used against WikiLeaks, when the organization started to publish emails from Hillary Clinton’s campaign chair John Podesta in October.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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The hack started just as Trump was entering the primaries, in 2015. It's a little hard to claim that whoever did the hack was supporting Trump - OR ANYBODY - at that point. - SIGNY
Which means absolutely nothing, thanks. Hacks don't have calendars or seasons - wise up. - GSTRING
Hacks don't - but people do.
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So here is the confusing thing about the hacks and releases: the timeline is screwed up and the attribution is messed up too.
Do you know how many hacking attempts/leaks on the DNC that the media has reported?
FOUR.
Over time, they have reported on one discovered BY THE FBI SEP 2015 but beginning who knows when .... According to reports, the FBI attempted to alert the DNC to the intrusion. Special Agent Adrian Hawkins repeatedly called the DNC over several weeks to alert them that a group called "The Dukes" (which Crowdstrike calls "Cozybear") had infiltrated the system. The tech guy who took the calls, Yared Tamene, ran a cursory check of system logs but not finding anything interesting and ignored the FBI calls until they stopped. “I did not return his calls, as I had nothing to report,” he wrote in a memo seen by the New York Times.
In MARCH 2016, [Crowdstrike says] that another hacking attempt began. This one was done though phishing emails claiming that "Someone has your password", which snared one DNC staffer, Billy Rinehart, to click on the email to change Podesta's gmail password.
Here is the email, as released by WIKILEAKS:
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From:slatham@hillaryclinton.com
To: mfisher@hillaryclinton.com, john.podesta@gmail.com
Date: 2016-03-19 12:07
Subject: Fwd: S?me?ne has your passw?rd
The gmail one is REAL
Milia, can you change - does JDP have the 2 step verification or do we need to do with him on the phone? Don't want to lock him out of his in box!
Sent from my iPhone ....
Sara,
This is a legitimate email. John needs to change his password immediately, and ensure that two-factor authentication is turned on his account. He can go to this link: https://myaccount.google.com/security to do both. It is absolutely imperative that this is done ASAP. If you or he has any questions, please reach out to me at 410.562.9762
Hi John
Someone just used your password to try to sign in to your Google Account john.podesta@gmail.com.
Details:
Saturday, 19 March, 8:34:30 UTC
IP Address: 134.249.139.239
Location: Ukraine
Google stopped this sign-in attempt. You should change your password immediately.
CHANGE PASSWORD < https://bit.ly/1PibSU0>;;
Best,
The Gmail Team
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/34899#efmAAGAAbAHLAIUAWxA
XH
APRIL 2016, The DNC brings in CrowdStrike
JUNE 14, WaPo reported (from Crowdstrike leak) that hackers had gained entrance to "the entire database of opposition research on GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump" (not the Podesta emails) and the day after, Crowdstrike announces that there were two hacks, the first one in 2015, which the FBI attributed to The Dukes is now being attributed to Cozybear and the second one in March 2016 which Crowdstrike attributes to Fancybear. Crowdstrike claims that Cozybear and Fancybear originate from two different Russian security organizations.
On JULY 21, GUCCIFER 2.0 ALSO claims to have infiltrated the DNC server. Although the DNC claimed that no personal, financial, or donor information was accessed, "Guccifer 2.0" leaked what he or they claimed were donor lists detailing DNC campaign contributions to Gawker and The Smoking Gun. However, this information has not been authenticated, and doubts remain about Guccifer 2.0's backstory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Committee_cyber_atta
cks#cite_note-sanger-3
At the time, this was ALSO blamed on Russia, of course.
And finally JULY 22 WIKILEAKS starts releasing DNC emails. THIS WAS ALSO BLAMED ON RUSSIA. These are the ONLY significant releases and, of course, the only ones that could credibly be po
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