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Tuesday, November 1, 2016 4:32 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Added Sep 1st, 2015

So, not about Trump.

1kiki is wrong again. It turns out that Noam Chomsky was right about Trump when he foresaw in Sep 1st, 2015 that the Republicans would run a charismatic figure who is such an obvious crook that he destroys himself.

More about Trump:

Mike Pence promised during the vice presidential debate that Trump would release his tax returns. So far that promise has gone unfulfilled.

Voters are still in the dark about how much the Republican presidential candidate earns, how much he has donated to charity and how much he has paid in taxes. Beyond personal habits, voters still don’t know whether Trump has financial ties with foreign governments.

www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/05/mike-pence/pen
ces-false-claim-trump-hasnt-broken-tax-return-p
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, November 1, 2016 8:30 PM

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Originally posted by G:

We are an incredibly coddled and spoiled nation - very thin on ideals and maturity. Not too unlike Russia. A good butt whuppin' might do us both some good.

Sadly: We'll get who we deserve.

This spring, a group of computer scientists set out to determine whether hackers were interfering with the Trump campaign. They found something they weren’t expecting.
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_ser
ver_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html


Frank Foer reports on the very peculiar transmissions between a Trump computer and a computer owned by Alfa Bank—a Russian bank run by oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin. The transmissions began early this year, peaked in early August, and then abruptly ceased a few weeks ago when a New York Times reporter began inquiring about them.

“The parties were communicating in a secretive fashion. The operative word is secretive. This is more akin to what criminal syndicates do if they are putting together a project.” Put differently, the logs suggested that Trump and Alfa had configured something like a digital hotline connecting the two entities, shutting out the rest of the world, and designed to obscure its own existence. Over the summer, the scientists observed the communications trail from a distance.

Voters still don’t know whether Trump has financial ties with foreign governments because Trump has not released his income tax returns.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, November 1, 2016 9:45 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Added Sep 1st, 2015

So, not about Trump.

1kiki is wrong again. It turns out that Noam Chomsky was right about Trump when he foresaw in Sep 1st, 2015 that the Republicans would run a charismatic figure who is such an obvious crook that he destroys himself.

More about Trump:

Mike Pence promised during the vice presidential debate that Trump would release his tax returns. So far that promise has gone unfulfilled.

Voters are still in the dark about how much the Republican presidential candidate earns, how much he has donated to charity and how much he has paid in taxes. Beyond personal habits, voters still don’t know whether Trump has financial ties with foreign governments.

www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/05/mike-pence/pen
ces-false-claim-trump-hasnt-broken-tax-return-p
/




1kiki's always wrong. That's because she's wrong headed.

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Russia trolls get contract extension
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Tuesday, November 1, 2016 10:27 PM

Donald Trump used a dubious loophole to make millions in taxable income disappear.

His own lawyers thought it was dodgy.

We learned from Trump’s reaction to a different story about his tax-dodging that he had, in fact, gone years without paying federal income tax. But that gave rise to a new mystery. Trump did not have $1 billion in cash to lose. What happened is that his casinos went bankrupt and he secured massive relief from his creditors, making bondholders share in his misfortune.

Forgiven debts, however, are supposed to show up as taxable income. So how did Trump pull it off? New legal documents obtained by the New York Times indicate that Trump filed the transaction as a ‘‘debt for equity swap,’’ a move that allowed him to not count hundreds of millions of dollars in debt relief. His lawyers told him the IRS would probably not allow this move (and maybe it didn't), but we do know from legislative history that the loophole remained arguably on the books until Congress explicitly closed it in 1993.

Since Trump continues to refuse to engage in routine tax disclosure, it’s impossible to say exactly what happened after that. But the hint that he used a tax minimization strategy his lawyers advised against is further evidence that an investigation of his management of his foundation could lead to criminal charges. Trump in federal prison -- Sad!

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/1/13485576/donald-trump-tax-lo
ophole


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, November 1, 2016 10:34 PM

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This spring, a group of computer scientists set out to determine whether hackers were interfering with the Trump campaign. They found something they weren’t expecting.
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_ser
ver_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html


Frank Foer reports on the very peculiar transmissions between a Trump computer and a computer owned by Alfa Bank—a Russian bank run by oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin. The transmissions began early this year, peaked in early August, and then abruptly ceased a few weeks ago when a New York Times reporter began inquiring about them. ...

Blah blah blah ....

Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-dona
ld-trump.html

Then either the FBI is lying, or they're incompetent.

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Alfa Bank—a Russian bank run by oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin
This is what the western financial media has to say about Alfa Bank's so-called "ties" to Putin
Not All Russian Billionaires Are Putin Cronies
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-03-05/not-all-russian-bil
lionaires-are-putin-cronies

I guess Bloomberg must be part of the conspiracy too!





Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Tuesday, November 1, 2016 11:40 PM

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Not ALL? So, 25%? 55%? How many? How would you know, how can you tell?- GSTRING


Why don't you read the article to find out?



Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Tuesday, November 1, 2016 11:44 PM

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I have suspected Trump for being the prime suspect for voter tampering ever since the media reported him saying he suspected Hillary and the Dems would rig the election. It's the same "deflection method" that we see our resident Ruskies use when attacking other posters, They'll say, "You're a liar!" right after they've told a whopper. Deflect the thing you do by accusing others of doing it - a simple and obvious political chess move to most of us.- GSTRING


What kind of mechanism might they use? Are these machines vulnerable to internet hacks? If not, do they own or have connections to a company that makes voting machines? Or do they have a team of operatives which goes around the nation, tampering with the vote-counting equipment?

Or are you in the habit of dreaming up impossible conspiracies which have no possible means of being carried out?



Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Wednesday, November 2, 2016 12:35 AM


Originally posted by 1kiki:
Added Sep 1st, 2015
So, not about Trump.

Originally posted by second:
1kiki is wrong again. It turns out that Noam Chomsky was right about Trump when he foresaw in Sep 1st, 2015 that the Republicans would run a charismatic figure who is such an obvious crook that he destroys himself.



Honey, you're lying, yet again. What IS it with you hillarities, anyway? Is this site the dumping ground for the pathologically dishonest?

WHAT CHOMSKY SAID:

“The United States is extremely lucky that no honest, charismatic figure has arisen,” Noam Chomsky went on. “Every charismatic figure is such an obvious crook that he destroys himself, like McCarthy or Nixon or the evangelist preachers. If somebody comes along who is charismatic and honest this country is in real trouble because of the frustration, disillusionment, the justified anger and the absence of any coherent response. What are people supposed to think if someone says ‘I have got an answer, we have an enemy’? For Germany it was the Jews. Here it will be the illegal immigrants and the blacks. We will be told that white males are a persecuted minority. We will be told we have to defend ourselves and the honor of the nation. Military force will be exalted. People will be beaten up. This could become an overwhelming force. And if it happens it will be more dangerous than Germany. The United States is the world power. Germany was powerful but had more powerful antagonists. I don’t think all this is very far away. If the polls are accurate it is not the Republicans but the right-wing Republicans, the crazed Republicans, who will sweep the next election.”

“I have never seen anything like this in my lifetime,” Chomsky added. “I am old enough to remember the 1930s. My whole family was unemployed. There were far more desperate conditions than today. But it was hopeful. People had hope. The CIO was organizing. No one wants to say it anymore but the Communist Party was the spearhead for labor and civil rights organizing. Even things like giving my unemployed seamstress aunt a week in the country. It was a life. There is nothing like that now. The mood of the country is frightening. The level of anger, frustration and hatred of institutions is not organized in a constructive way. It is going off into self-destructive fantasies.”

“I listen to talk radio,” Chomsky said. “I don’t want to hear Rush Limbaugh. I want to hear the people calling in. They are like [suicide pilot] Joe Stack. What is happening to me? I have done all the right things. I am a God-fearing Christian. I work hard for my family. I have a gun. I believe in the values of the country and my life is collapsing.”



Is Trump in there? In Chomsky's fears that an HONEST, CHARISMATIC FIGURE might arise?

You know, second, you read, you quote, but you obviously don't address the topics honestly, or even intelligently.




I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.

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Wednesday, November 2, 2016 1:34 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

Honey, you're lying, yet again. What IS it with you hillarities, anyway? Is this site the dumping ground for the pathologically dishonest?

A long story for 1kiki about the "reasons" for Peter Thiel's support of Trump:

www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/31/thiel_on_trump_and_downtrodden_millio
naires
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31 Oct 2016 at 20:22, Kieren McCarthy

Billionaire venture capitalist and professional contrarian Peter Thiel hailed a new political reality this morning with another public endorsement of fellow billionaire Donald Trump just days before the US elections.

The Paypal cofounder and early Facebook investor travelled from Silicon Valley to Washington DC to hold a press conference, in which he warned at length that the entire country had gone down the wrong path. Just like Trump, however, he failed to move from diagnosis to cure and outline any actual proposals to fix things.

A worrying 64 percent of people over age 55 have less than a year’s worth of savings, Thiel warned. Healthcare is 10 times in the US what it is in the rest of the world. College tuition continues to rise above inflation. Incomes aren't moving. And the government is "wasting trillions of dollars" on wars.

What's he going to do about it as someone with access to huge amounts of capital and brainpower? Complain, of course.

"No matter what happens in this election, what Trump represents is not crazy, and it's not going away. He points to a new Republican Party beyond the dogmas of Reaganism," said Thiel, adding: "When the distracting spectacles of this election season are forgotten, the only important question will be whether or not that new politics came too late."

At a time when the political establishment has increasingly and publicly distanced itself from the Republican nominee following months of racist, sexist and other similarly offensive comments, it is perhaps unsurprising that Thiel – who relishes taking the opposite view to whatever becomes commonly accepted – has become a fervent supporter. He recently donated $1.25m to Trump's campaign.
Who's in Peter's file?

In 2012, Thiel supported Ron Paul for the presidency, then Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan when Ron Paul dropped out. That was a dead-end move. Next in 2016, Thiel supported Carly Fiorina; when she dropped out, Ted Cruz. Only when Cruz dropped out did Thiel express his support for Trump, later appearing on stage at the Republican convention to express his pride at being gay – to a political party that "supports traditional marriage."

In just one of a list of seemingly endless contradictions, Thiel's pride at being gay comes after tabloid rag Gawker told the world that he is indeed very gay – a decision that so infuriated him that he secretly funded a number of lawsuits, including Hulk Hogan's, against Gawker in an effort to bankrupt the online publication. He succeeded.

Asked specifically about that funding effort, Thiel argued that Hogan was not able to use the legal system properly himself because he was only "a single-digit millionaire." Thiel said:

If you're a single-digit millionaire like Hulk Hogan, you have no effective access to our legal system.

He also claimed that a number of journalists had told him privately that they supported his secret legal campaign against Gawker – a claim that, again, matches Trump's willingness to say whatever helps his argument at the time, regardless of whether it is based in reality.

As for his sexuality, Thiel was asked if he had asked Republicans behind the scenes if they would protect gay rights – in particular recent decisions on equality such as same-sex marriage. Thiel said he had not had any such conversations.
So... when Donald said...

Inevitably, Thiel faced a series of questions asking how he excused the enormous range of concerns against Trump. The religious test for immigrants aka Ban the Muslims? Thiel "wouldn't support the specific langu

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Wednesday, November 2, 2016 2:02 AM

Strawman, in the pantheon of DISHONEST ARGUMENTS! Your specialty.

You write about Chomsky. I write about Chomsky. So you QUOTE ME me writing about CHOMSKY and YOU write about --- Peter Thiel!





I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.

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