TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
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Since Trump isn't going to be president, I hope you can explain to me how any of this matters to the state of the country or the fate of the world.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Good points. But I lean towards the fact that he's an utter loser despite his wealth and notorious
penchant for dehumanizing women.
Wait, that is the reason he's losing, but I do get your point.
In other words, this is the season of "the lesser of two evils"
SGG
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Originally posted by second:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now
Let’s dispel with this notion that Donald Trump knows what he’s doing.
Trump is blowing it.
To make a long story short, Donald Trump is the GOP nominee in a year when a generic Republican would be favored to beat a generic Democrat. Rather than running against a generic Democrat, he is running against an unusually unpopular Democrat. And he is losing.
That’s not good.
Of course, the mere fact that Trump’s overall campaign is ineffective doesn’t mean that every particular choice he makes is bad. But it does mean that there’s no particular reason to give him the benefit of the doubt. The big lesson of the 2016 campaign is that the fundamentals matter a lot. The electorate is polarized, and so even a really bad candidate has a high floor.
Clinton has major weaknesses in terms of weak economic growth and voter fatigue with Democratic Party leadership (manifesting in 2016 largely in millennial disaffection with Clinton, even as young voters eschew Trump). These factors keep Trump perennially within striking distance; it’s a very winnable election for him. But instead of winning, he is losing. And he has been consistently losing, because he doesn’t know what he’s doing.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/9/30/13108314/trump-campaign-stra
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Just the facts, ma'am! You seem to be slipping into personal attack mode.
Don't worry, no matter who wins, the earth will keep spinning 'round.
SGG
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Jeeze, why are you all so obsessed with Donald?
Do you have a thing for his hair? Or do you just need to keep avoiding your feeble notions about how right Hillary is by obsessing how wrong Donald is?
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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That is a lucid, well thought out response. Thanks Second, someone else gets it. Trump is living in the fantasy reality TV world, and he knows what sells.
Aside from Sex, Fear.....and he brings it in spades.
But, in Hillary, he has a clever opponent, partially because she gets it.
Oh, and this would be contributed by Kiki and Sig; partially because she's evil.
SGG
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Donald is only wrong because he is a Republican. I think he is a clever Republican for speaking about a "nightmarish" world that does not exist outside the average Republican's brain. Oh, there are real problems, the kind that can't be fixed by ending the estate tax on Trump's estate or lowering the pass-through income tax on Trump's business or nominating a new Scalia to the Supreme Court or abolishing Obamacare or whatever easy-painless-cheap solution Trump is selling at any moment. Since Trump's solutions won't fix any real problems, I'd classify all Trump's problems as imaginary. Trump's solutions make Trump's life easier and that is NOT why you elect a President, to make their personal business fortunes better.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Jeeze, why are you all so obsessed with Donald?
Do you have a thing for his hair? Or do you just need to keep avoiding your feeble notions about how right Hillary is by obsessing how wrong Donald is?
Trump is like a Joss Whedon tuned to a different audience. When Joss finishes a vampire story, you know vampires are not real. When Trump does the same story, he is trying to make you believe vampires are real in the nightmarish world he describes, making you afraid to go out at night. Joss and Trump both know what mood they are selling and they are good at it.
I've got an enormous amount of experience with average Republican voters in Texas and they want to kill innocent programs such as Obamacare or long standing tax programs such as the estate tax, not because the programs are actually evil, but because their imaginations have taken control over their good sense. Trump feeds their imaginations with unreal horrors. He is good at it, but it is bad.
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You seem to be slipping into personal attack mode.
Where?
Do you mean when I said the reasons why Hillary is so 'right' are feeble? As far as I can tell, I'm looking for information about something OUT THERE - which you haven't so far supplied.
So, tell me about what's OUT THERE REGARDING HILLARY. What makes her so good? (And avoid references to Donald, or your statement will cease to be about Hillary.)
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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You see!
SGG
Quote:or whatever easy-painless-cheap solution Trump is selling at any moment
Originally posted by 1kiki:
BUT TRUMP ISN'T GOING TO BE PRESIDENT.
So - what's your point, again? Why DO you keep harping on, and on, and on, AND on ... about something that doesn't matter?
Meanwhile, I could just as easily - and more meaningfully - say
or whatever easy-painless-cheap solution Clinton is selling at any moment
Because her solutions are equally vaporous. But worse, the threats she genuinely poses are extreme. But you ignore them. All I can conclude is that you're muttering your role in some argument that only you hear, that exists only in your head, to control those forces that you think live there. You're certainly not addressing the people who post here, or the salient facts that exist in the real world today.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Don't rush me, I'mma thinkin'................my head hurts!
-Yosemite Sam
SGG
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Since Trump isn't going to be president, I hope you can explain to me how any of this matters to the state of the country or the fate of the world.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Trump isn't going to be president. Anything you say about him is useless.
So, tell me about what's OUT THERE REGARDING HILLARY. What makes her so good? (And avoid references to Donald, or your statement will cease to be about Hillary.)
ETA: In case you need help, let me suggest a few things you could address without referencing Trump.
Clinton's history as Senator. How was her attendance record? What did she vote for? What did she vote against? What legislation did she sponsor? Or co-sponsor?
Clinton's history as S'cy of State. What peace treaties did she negotiate? What wars did she prevent? What wars did she at least avoid?
How did she make sure her office was transparent and accountable? How well did she handle national security?
How about the DNC and her role in it?
And so on.
There is PLENTY of Clinton history you can examine and comment on, without referring to Trump.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Quote:As always, you are wrong. Donald Trump is asserting that the general election “is going to be rigged,” and many people who are drawn to his campaign have major doubts about the accuracy of the Nov. 8 vote. After he loses, Trump will be banging the drum loudly about crooked Hillary stealing the election. Trump could not be more disruptive of President Hillary if Trump had a license from the Secret Service that he could fire a rifle at Hillary whenever he pleased and the Secret Service would not interfere. There will be millions of Trump voters who will also be taking their shot at Hillary. Trump will be cheering them on every time there is an assassination attempt.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Trump isn't going to be president. Anything you say about him is useless.
Fears of voter fraud are unfounded. A study by a Loyola Law School professor found that out of 1 billion votes cast between 2000 and 2014, there were only 31 known cases of fraud. Does Trump care?
www.heraldtribune.com/news/20161002/poll-trump-backers-dont-trust-vote
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Quote:Hillary is a generic Democrat. The Republican party will be just as obnoxious and disruptive after the election as it has been for 8 years. Nothing will get better under Hillary, no matter what she does (unless she executes Mitch McConnell, using the ultimate Presidential veto) because the Republicans will make her fail. Her generic Democratic party policies mean nothing compared to the GOP's policy toward her.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, tell me about what's OUT THERE REGARDING HILLARY. What makes her so good? (And avoid references to Donald, or your statement will cease to be about Hillary.)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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After he loses
You agree with me. Trump won't be president.
Trump could not be more disruptive of President Hillary if Trump had a license from the Secret Service ...
And you also agree with me that republicans aren't going to be helping Clinton further the democratic agenda. And that also means that her campaign promises are empty.
I predicted months ago - in fact when the dnc platform came out I outlined it in excruciating detail - that a Clinton presidency wasn't going to be the promised land. I said that since the democrats don't control congress, the entire dnc platform could be ignored except for two things that actually did have a chance of getting through congress - more antagonizing Russia plus more foreign military adventurism, and more trade deals.
I've been saying for close to two months the Trump will not be elected.
So I'm glad you finally agree with me.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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