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TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!

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Friday, July 29, 2016 7:52 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

That's why capitalists need laws ... with teeth ... making them do what they don't want to do: give up some of those profits to their employees. YOUR way just makes it easier for capitalists to profit ever more handsomely.

Take just one law ... with teeth ... helping employees -- raising the minimum wage. Trump is on all sides of that issue. http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2016/07/27/3802419/donald-trump-chang
ing-minimum-wage
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From the article I draw the conclusion that Trump is insincere about the minimum wage. That way he can appeal to everyone who wants to hear whatever they want to hear.
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Mark Zandi, now the chief economist at the private research firm Moody's Analytics, has forecast that the Republican presidential nominee's policies would put almost 3.5 million Americans out of work after four years.
I have yet to see a mainstream economist forecast anything correctly. Ever.

There are some shocking graphs which compare forecast to actual, which they constantly "revise" to meet actual and they STILL can't get it right!

If you want to surrender to Trump and all his promises of a much brighter future at very low cost, especially his promises about the job-creating wonders of higher tariffs, go ahead! Ignore everybody except the supersalesman who needs your vote and his economist pals paid by the Republican party. But there is a difference between freshwater and saltwater economists. One group makes its fortune by misleading you and the other group is based in reality.
www.businessinsider.com/krugman-saltwater-freshwater-economists-keynes
-2014-12

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/05/economics-in-the-crisis/
www.nytimes.com/2009/09/06/magazine/06Economic-t.html?_r=0

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Friday, July 29, 2016 7:54 PM

Khizr Khan, Father of American Muslim Soldier Killed in Iraq, Shames Donald Trump


The words of Khizr Khan — a Pakistani Muslim immigrant, whose son, Capt. Humayun S.M. Khan, was posthumously awarded the Bronze Star and Purple Heart for saving the lives of fellow soldiers in Baquba, Iraq in 2004 — were not about the wisdom or morality or politics of the war. They were about how his son’s love of country, and his family’s sacrifice, exposed the anti-Muslim bigotry behind Donald Trump’s plan to bar followers of that faith from becoming Americans.
https://theintercept.com/2016/07/28/khizr-khan-father-american-muslim-
soldier-killed-iraq-shames-donald-trump
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Friday, July 29, 2016 9:23 PM

If Trump Wins, Roe v. Wade Is ‘Ash Heap Of History’

Trump's V.P., Mike Pence, said Roe v. Wade, the U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion, will be overturned after Donald Trump is elected president in November, Mlive.com reported.

Answering a question from an audience member during a town hall in Grand Rapids, Michigan, the Indiana governor said a Republican win in the fall will lead to changes in the nation's highest court.

Trump, in his supersalesman persona, has taken all sides (politely called in the media "inconsistent") on this issue, such that his supporters can believe whatever they want to believe. Trump's V.P. has chosen to believe the standard Republican position prevailing with Republican Senators who have the power to approve or block Trump's choices for Supreme Court justices.

www.newsmax.com/TheWire/mike-pence-roe-wade-overturn-donald-trump/2016
/07/29/id/741149/#ixzz4FoMaIcY7

http://indianapublicmedia.org/news/pence-trump-wins-roe-wade-ash-heap-
history-102995
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Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:05 AM

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If Trump Wins, Roe v. Wade Is ‘Ash Heap Of History’

Trump's V.P., Mike Pence, said Roe v. Wade, the U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion, will be overturned after Donald Trump is elected president in November, Mlive.com reported.

Answering a question from an audience member during a town hall in Grand Rapids, Michigan, the Indiana governor said a Republican win in the fall will lead to changes in the nation's highest court.

Trump, in his supersalesman persona, has taken all sides (politely called in the media "inconsistent") on this issue, such that his supporters can believe whatever they want to believe. Trump's V.P. has chosen to believe the standard Republican position prevailing with Republican Senators who have the power to approve or block Trump's choices for Supreme Court justices.

www.newsmax.com/TheWire/mike-pence-roe-wade-overturn-donald-trump/2016
/07/29/id/741149/#ixzz4FoMaIcY7

http://indianapublicmedia.org/news/pence-trump-wins-roe-wade-ash-heap-
history-102995
/




I think one of the most telling things after the democratic convention is that Trump stated, "like me or not you gotta stay with me" because of the Supreme Court nominations yet to come.

He knows he can no longer fight or defend himself against the truth of his campaign or character, as it was displayed to Americans in the past two weeks. Lets see if more republicans jump ship. Let's see if he quits. lol

Donald Trump is a pox on the republican party. A pox they created themselves over the past two decades.
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Saturday, July 30, 2016 2:53 AM

I've never seen such a disgusting person so close to the office. It's insane.



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Monday, August 1, 2016 1:58 PM

I don't understand it either. How can one man be so wrong yet he's still in the race. Something is definitely wrong in this country, even his own party has turned their backs on him:

"Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), who urged Republicans to walk away from Trump after the Curiel episode, said the Republican nominee’s attack on the Khans is unprecedented.

This is going to a place where we’ve never gone before, to push back against the families of the fallen. There used to be some things that were sacred in American politics — that you don’t do — like criticizing the parents of a fallen soldier even if they criticize you,” Graham said. “If you’re going to be leader of the free world, you have to be able to accept criticism. Mr. Trump can’t.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-denounce-trump-as-c
onfrontation-with-muslim-parents-escalates/ar-BBv4XM6?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartandhphttp://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-denounce-trump-as-confrontation-with-muslim-parents-escalates/ar-BBv4XM6?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartandhp



SGG





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I've never seen such a disgusting person so close to the office. It's insane.




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Monday, August 1, 2016 3:05 PM

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The US Park Police had jurisdiction over the matter and concluded, in conjunction with the FBI, that it was a suicide. Later investigations by independent counsels Robert Fisk and Kenneth Starr concluded the same thing. When a depressed man is found dead in a park with no sign of a struggle and gun residue on his hand, the natural conclusion is suicide, and every subsequent piece of evidence confirmed that finding. Depression plus easy access to firearms lead to an avoidable death, as it all too often does in the United States.
While Foster most likely committed suicide, https://vault.fbi.gov/vincent-foster/vincent-foster-part-02-of-04
there is a rather large question of why he committed suicide and what happened afterwards. According to some, Vince Foster was "bullied to death" by Hillary, because she mercilessly tore him part in front of others at a time when he was depressed and vulnerable. A fragment of a suicide note was later "discovered" by Hillary's staff. I wonder, if the whole thing had been found, would it have had Hillary's name on it?

Immediately after Foster's suicide, Hillary's staff removed potentially incriminating materials from his office.
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Investigators have also been trying to determine whether Mrs. Clinton sought to block Justice Department lawyers from examining files in Mr. Foster's office in the days after his death. White House aides searched the office and brought files to the Clintons' private residence before allowing investigators to look at them.


This follows a similar pattern of "missing documents"

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After nearly two years of searches and subpoenas, the White House said this evening that it had unexpectedly discovered copies of missing documents from Hillary Rodham Clinton's law firm that describe her work for a failing savings and loan association in the 1980's.
Copies with Hillary's fingerprints all over them.

And, again, another "missing document" turns up:
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... [The] chairman of the Senate Whitewater committee, was referring to the disclosure on Thursday of a two-year-old memorandum written by a former Presidential aide. The memorandum said that Mrs. Clinton had played a far greater role in the dismissal of employees of the White House travel office than the Administration has acknowledged.

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/06/us/elusive-papers-of-law-firm-are-fo
und-at-white-house.html?pagewanted=all


SHADES OF 33,000 MISSING EMAILS!

Hillary has a habit, of "disappearing" documents which might detail illegal or unethical work, doesn't she?



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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.

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Monday, August 1, 2016 6:31 PM

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SHADES OF 33,000 MISSING EMAILS!

Hillary has a habit, of "disappearing" documents which might detail illegal or unethical work, doesn't she?

The Kremlin has denied interfering in the U.S. election. However, a columnist at Russia's best-selling newspaper said it would be a smart move. Israel Shamir wrote in Pravda, "I would welcome the Kremlin helping those forces (viz. Trump) in the United States that stand for peace with Russia and democracy in America."

Trump, meanwhile, has encouraged Russia to seek and release more than 30,000 other missing emails deleted by Clinton. Democrats accused him of trying to get a foreign adversary to conduct espionage that could affect this November's election, but Trump later said he was merely being a jackass.
www.csmonitor.com/World/2016/0731/Russian-television-slams-Clinton-and
-criticizes-American-democracy


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 2, 2016 2:20 AM

I know it's in their partisan self interest for conservatives to insist that Hillary is the world's biggest liar. But she isn't. Not by a long, long way. Republicans need to get the beam out of their own eye before they keep banging on about the mote in Hillary's.
www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/opinion/campaign-stops/all-politicians-lie-
some-lie-more-than-others.html?_r=0


https://datavizblog.com/2016/07/24/political-dataviz-who-lies-more-a-c
omparison-robert-mann
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https://datavizblog.com/2016/07/26/politifacts-methodology-who-lies-mo
re-a-comparison-robert-mann
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 2, 2016 2:57 AM

I know it's in their partisan self interest for conservatives to insist that Hillary is the world's biggest liar.

It's not that she lies about the size of her ... hands ... It's that she has a decades-long history of lying about her non-existent computer security both on her private (US national security) server and the DNC server. And she has a decades-long history of lying about her positions on free-trade agreements. And she has a decades-long history of lying about Libya, and Ukraine, and Syria ... and Russia. And about what she really said during her half-a-million dollar speeches.

The facts about the real world are to her smaller and less vital than maintaining her image of capability. It makes me nervous. And if you're a sane person, it would make you nervous, too.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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