To those of us who just sold your country down the river...
POSTED BY: Clandestiny
UPDATED: Sunday, November 7, 2004 19:31
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... Damn you all. You're about to get exactly the government you deserve.
It's a shame that the rest of us have to take the punishment along with you.
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"I look at the big map and all of the red in flyover country and I feel like I've been locked in a room with the slow learners. We have become the country that pulls a dry cleaning bag over its head to play astronaut." --TBogg
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Actually no, you don't have to!
We all are free to make choices like that. Depending on which end of the US you live in, there are plenty of like minded folks just stone's throw away.
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Originally posted by Clandestiny:
... Damn you all. You're about to get exactly the government you deserve.
It's a shame that the rest of us have to take the punishment along with you.
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"I look at the big map and all of the red in flyover country and I feel like I've been locked in a room with the slow learners. We have become the country that pulls a dry cleaning bag over its head to play astronaut." --TBogg
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Quote:
Originally posted by Clandestiny:
... Damn you all. You're about to get exactly the government you deserve.
It's a shame that the rest of us have to take the punishment along with you.
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"I look at the big map and all of the red in flyover country and I feel like I've been locked in a room with the slow learners. We have become the country that pulls a dry cleaning bag over its head to play astronaut." --TBogg
I was thinking the same thing although I'm still not covinced it was a fair election ..the computer voting was in Ohio and Florida
All the people who voted for Bush they are going to get exactly the what they deserve and they are probably going to be the ones crying the loudest when the Crap flies
but its a shame I take no comfort in seeing my fellow Americans suffer not even the delusional idiots who voted for this administration..yes its sad that we will have to suffer to too!!
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God I hope theres no re-instaed draft.....
Ill be 18 in Bushes 3rd term....
If people only beleive wahts in a movie, their damn well sure beleiving Serenity.
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I find it typical and annoying that when people on the right disagree with those on the left, they usually put it in terms of disagreeing with the left's position.
Whereas people on the left, as further evidenced here, tend to insult the intelligence of those on the right instead of just accepting that they disagree with our views.
How on earth will anyone be convinced of anything like that?
"Gee, you are an idiot! Now vote like me you slack-jawed yokel!"
I am tired of having to distance myself from so many people with which I share so many views because they are incapable of granting that the people on the other side might actually understand the issue and THINK DIFFERENTLY.
Which side is the tolerant one? I forget.
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You've never listened to Sean Hannity have you?
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You've never listened to Sean Hannity have you?
hehe, yeah, and anyways this is the only place I have to voice a liberal oppinion, Im like the only demcrat at my school....
If people only beleive wahts in a movie, their damn well sure beleiving Serenity.
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Well... I have...
I don't really know anyone that likes him though.
Would it then be your contention that it is good
to emulate the likes of him?
You bring up an obvious example of someone on the right that is an attacker. But, his behavior is in the minority of those on the right in my opinion.
Sure, I see conservatives go after liberal VIEWS all the time. But the typical response is to question their intelligence or speculate on their "personal relationship with Jesus". Never once seeming to grant the idea that they have thought about the issue and simply view it different.
This election was typical, IMO. the drive wasn't to try to debate the merits of positions and perhaps change anyone's view with CALM conversation, it was to shanghai new voters to march lock-step into the booths to just outnumber them.
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In the vein of changing people's minds. If the left is so certain that the logic of their views will prevail, then why all the histrionics and rhetoric?
Why not calmly debate things issue by issue and, if really true, point out the fallacies in the beliefs of the opposition.
Look at how coming off as a raving looney did in Dean's campaign!
Does anyone on the left really feel that the right makes much distinction between Howard Dean and John Kerry?
Can any Kerry backers say with a clear conscience that they really thought he was the answer? (Of the 9, I'd have gone with Liebermann)
I'd ask people here that consider themselves on the left whether they have ever sat and watched a show like Bill O'Reilly for a week straight and tried to view it with an open mind. People like limbaugh and hannity are just lockstep with whatever bush says and does and there is nothing to be learned there.
Someone like O'Reilly actually disagrees with the republicans on occasions and it is interesting to see when and why he does. I think the left could learn from him that not everyone on the right is as insane or stupid as some here want to believe.
What I find sad, is that I am hard-pressed to give the left's version of O'Reilly. There are some members of congress I would point to, but I mean more in terms of those in the media that are sort of a left-centrist so that people on the right might be able to learn something about the left without "going off the deep end" in their eyes.
Lets face it, the most accessible media personalities on the left are about as far out as limbaugh and hannity...
Anyway. To those on the left, I'd say, think of someone good that is accessible and whose only purpose in life isn't to hate george bush...
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It seems to me the real master stroke of this election was elevating the whole gay marriage thing to a national concern. I believe Karl Rove and company very deliberately turned this into a national issue to stoke up social conservatives. Once they are at the polls its a given they'll vote for Bush, since he's God's favorite and all.
Our population just gets more malleable as the methods for manipulating them get more sophisticated. Democracy can't work in such an environment.
Here it is folks. Quit sending your kids to public schools. Turn off the TV.
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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