BUSH HAS WON!!!!
POSTED BY: Anarko
UPDATED: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:18
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Hjermsted:
"If things don't improve in the U.S. now that the repubs hold all the cards, their party will be exposed for the corporate/christian right tools they are and 2006 / 2008 will not be pretty for them."
Don't count on it. Word now is, all states that had e-voting had major discrepancies between exit polls and final results. In the remainder of the states, exits closely matched final results.
In other words, via the Diebold (the CEO of which publically vowed to keep Bush in the White House) voting machines, it would appear Bush stole the election.
With these easily hacked machines in place, what chance do you have for your vote to mean ANYTHING?
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We all know hackers are Republicans.
Damn those hackers.
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Originally posted by Ruxton:
Hjermsted:
"If things don't improve in the U.S. now that the repubs hold all the cards, their party will be exposed for the corporate/christian right tools they are and 2006 / 2008 will not be pretty for them."
Don't count on it. Word now is, all states that had e-voting had major discrepancies between exit polls and final results. In the remainder of the states, exits closely matched final results.
In other words, via the Diebold (the CEO of which publically vowed to keep Bush in the White House) voting machines, it would appear Bush stole the election.
With these easily hacked machines in place, what chance do you have for your vote to mean ANYTHING?
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You guys crack me up.
No matter who won/lost, we were going to hear Chicken Little calling out "the sky is falling..." from one side or the other.
We have two fairly centrist parties. Other than a couple of hot button issues, if you read between the lines, they were basically proposing the same ideas.
Move to Canada or wherever if it suits you. When things change again in four years, it'll probably be a different group of you wanting to leave.
Personally regardless of the outcome, we still live in the greatest country currently around...
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Originally posted by Ruxton:
Hjermsted:
"If things don't improve in the U.S. now that the repubs hold all the cards, their party will be exposed for the corporate/christian right tools they are and 2006 / 2008 will not be pretty for them."
Don't count on it. Word now is, all states that had e-voting had major discrepancies between exit polls and final results. In the remainder of the states, exits closely matched final results.
In other words, via the Diebold (the CEO of which publically vowed to keep Bush in the White House) voting machines, it would appear Bush stole the election.
With these easily hacked machines in place, what chance do you have for your vote to mean ANYTHING?
Well, that took longer than I'd expected.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by Dither:Quote:
Originally posted by UnchartedOutlaw:
...*sigh* Well, look at it this way...Bush can't be reelected in 2008! :)
-Taylor
Or can he?<---evil conservative grin
ROFL. I actually had another teacher point that out to me today. All he needs is a reason to declare martial law just before the '08 election and hoo-boy watch out!
Anyway, today more than ever (and I know I said this in some other post in some other thread) I believe the following statement: "Yeah, I was on the losing side...still not convinced it was the wrong side."
-Taylor
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Gots a long wait...
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/03/canada.us.reut/index.htm
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OTTAWA, Canada (Reuters) -- Disgruntled Democrats seeking a safe Canadian haven after U.S. President George W. Bush won Tuesday's election should not pack their bags just yet.
Canadian officials made clear on Wednesday that any U.S. citizens so fed up with Bush that they want to make a fresh start up north would have to stand in line like any other would-be immigrants -- a wait that can take up to a year.
"Let me tell you -- if they're hard-working honest people, there's a process, and let them apply," Immigration Minister Judy Sgro told Reuters.
Asked whether American applicants would get special treatment, she replied: "No, they'll join the crowd like all the other people who want to come to Canada."
There are anywhere from 600,000 to a million Americans living in Canada, which leans more to the left than the United States and has traditionally favored the Democrats over the Republicans.
But statistics show a gradual decline in U.S. citizens coming to work and live in Canada, which has an ailing health care system and relatively high levels of personal taxation.
Government officials, real estate brokers and Democrat activists said that while some Americans might talk about moving to Canada rather than living with a new Bush administration, they did not expect a mass influx.
"It's one thing to say 'I'm leaving for Canada' and quite another to actually find a job here and wonder about where you're going to live and where the children are going to go to school," said one official.
Roger King of the Toronto-based Democrats Abroad group said he had heard nothing about a possible exodus of party members.
"I imagine most committed Democrats will want to stay in the United States and continue being politically active there," he said.
Americans seeking to immigrate can apply to become permanent citizens of Canada, a process that often takes a year. Becoming a full citizen takes a further three years.
The other main way to move north on a long-term basis is to find a job, which in all cases requires a work permit. This takes from four to six months to come through.
Statistics show the number of U.S. workers entering Canada dropped to 15,789 in 2002 from 21,627 in 2000. In 1981 some 10,030 Americans gained permanent residency, compared to 5,541 in 2003.
Asked if there had been signs of increased U.S. interest, Sgro said: "Not yet, but we'll see tomorrow."
The Canadian foreign ministry said there had been no increase in hits on the Washington embassy's immigration Web site, while housing brokers doubted they would see a surge in U.S. business.
"Canada's always open and welcoming to Americans who want to relocate here, but we don't think it would be a trend or movement," said Gino Romanese of Royal Lepage Residential Real Estate Services.
Those wishing to move to Canada could always take a risk and claim refugee status -- the path chosen earlier this year by two U.S. deserters who opposed the Iraq war.
"Anybody who enters Canada who claims refugee status will be provided with a work permit...it doesn't matter what country they're from," said an immigration ministry spokeswoman.
Refugee cases are handled by special boards, which can take months to decide whether to admit applicants. The rulings can be appealed and opposition politicians complain some people ordered deported have been in Canada for 10 years or more.
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Originally posted by lissa:
i think i'm going to cry.
i changed my mind. i'm moving to canada.
and then i'm crying.
~lissa, spwhore
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Originally posted by UnchartedOutlaw:
Anyway, today more than ever (and I know I said this in some other post in some other thread) I believe the following statement: "Yeah, I was on the losing side...still not convinced it was the wrong side."
-Taylor
THANK YOU TAYLOR!!! Today is a day to *REALLY* feel like a Browncoat, I guess!
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I was sick to my stomach when I found out the news
I wasn't mad or angry just really sad for our country
I guess because I knew all along that Bush would get back into office
we are in for some really sick times its scary!!
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Originally posted by Anarko:
It's official, John Kerry has conceded. It's all over the news.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041103/D864G8201.html
Anybody But Kerry...damn right!
WE'VE DONE THE IMPOSSIBLE,AND THAT MAKES US MIGHTY!
The Democrats(with full support of the news media) thought they were gonna waltz through this election and we choked them with those words!!
Why does Dan Rather still have a job?
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by UnchartedOutlaw:
...*sigh* Well, look at it this way...Bush can't be reelected in 2008! :)
But there is always Jeb Bush and the rest of the Bush's
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