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TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!

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Thursday, June 16, 2016 4:57 PM

Yep, odd indeed. But this is Drumpf we're talking about, he IS odd, so much so that he comes up with the weirdest conspiracy theories. I heard clear as a bell - right after he said "soldiers" he said "they must be living very well."

And, as everyone knows, there's only one person that can live well in this country...Double D - Donald Drumpf! Even more odd......is that possible?.....no one knows if he's purposefully trying to sabotage his own campaign, or if he's that
insane. Doesn't his campaign manager have any say in the matter? I hope that he got
paid up front, you know Donald's M.O.

Then you have the brave B.S.A.s over at the House (B.S.A. - Bull Shit Artists) doing their best mime act....what? where? who?........no comment. Drumpf is going down in flames and these guys are so busy getting out of the way, that they look like the Keystone Cops from the silent era (in case there's any question, I'm speaking about Congress, Repubs, you know...the guys that are cramming the doorway trying to escape without commenting on way they're backing Drumpf. It would be hilarious except that this is our country that we're talking about. This fool is this close to the Highest Office in the land.

He's so far gone that his poll numbers are ridiculous - over 70% negative nationwide, by comparison Hilary's negative numbers are 55%. Not good but any means. But she leads him by 12 points in national polls. Meanwhile Bernie is busy
badmouthing the Democratic leader and trying to make himself relevant again. Can anyone say "this lion has no teeth."


SGG


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Originally posted by second:
Something very odd happened to Donald Trump Tuesday night.

Specifically, speaking in North Carolina, Trump said that American soldiers in Iraq were passing out baskets full of money and implied that some of them stole that money and are now “living very well.”

The Trump campaign has denied he’d ever said any such thing, arguing that Trump was accusing Iraqi, not American soldiers, of corruption. Watch the clip and judge for yourself, but if you ask me, it’s unambiguous that Trump was saying American soldiers stole money:


Broadly speaking, Trump was talking about tens of thousands of US soldiers and tons of cash transactions. It’s a bit of an odd thing to bring up on the campaign trail, but it’s arguably an example of the kind of incompetent leadership by the mainstream governing class that’s fueled Trump’s rise. But instead of explaining himself or defending himself, Trump’s campaign is just out there pretending he never said it.
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/05/u_s_troops_h
ave_stolen_tens_of_millions_in_iraq_and_afghanistan_center_for.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, June 16, 2016 6:19 PM

The only greatness Trump knows is about himself

Garrison Keillor says ‘dreamers’ in the GOP imagine the real estate mogul will ultimately accept wise counsel; but it isn’t happening.
www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-trump-orlando-congra
tulates-himself-keillor-perspec-0615-md-20160615-story.html


It is the most famous ducktail in America today, the hairdo of wayward youth of a bygone era, and it’s astonishing to imagine it under the spotlight in Cleveland, being cheered by Republican dignitaries. The class hood, the bully and braggart, the guy revving his pink Chevy to make the pipes rumble, presiding over the student council. This is the C-minus guy who sat behind you in history and poked you with his pencil and smirked when you asked him to stop. That smirk is now on every front page in America. It is not what anybody — left, right, or center — looks for in a president. There’s no philosophy here, just an attitude.

He is a little old for a ducktail. By the age of 70, most ducks have moved on, but not Donald. He is apparently still fond of the sidewalls and the duck’s ass in back and he is proud as can be of his great feat, the first punk candidate to get this close to the White House. He says that the country is run by a bunch of clowns and that he is going to make things great again and beat up on the outsiders who are coming into our neighborhood. His followers don’t necessarily believe that — what they love about him is what kids loved about Johnny Rotten and Sid Vicious, the fact that he horrifies the powers that be and when you are pro-duck you are giving the finger to Congress, the press, clergy, lawyers, teachers, cake-eaters, big mucketymucks, VIPs, all those people who think they’re better than you — you have the power to scare the pants off them, and that’s what this candidate does better than anybody else.

After the worst mass shooting in American history on Sunday, 49 persons dead in Orlando, the bodies still being carted from the building, the faces of horror-stricken cops and EMTs on TV, the gentleman issued a statement on Twitter thanking his followers for their congratulations, that the tragedy showed that he had been “right” in calling for America to get “tough.”

Anyone else would have expressed sorrow. The gentleman expressed what was in his heart, which was personal pride.

We had a dozen or so ducktails in my high school class and they were all about looks. The hooded eyes, the sculpted swoop of the hair, the curled lip. They emulated Elvis but only the look, not the talent. Their sole ambition was to make an impression, to slouch gracefully and exhale in an artful manner. In the natural course of things, they struggled after graduation, some tried law enforcement for the prestige of it, others became barflies. If they were drafted, the Army got them shaped up in a month or two. Eventually, they all calmed down, got hitched up to a mortgage, worried about their blood pressure, lost the chippiness, let their hair down. But if your dad was rich and if he was born before you were, then the ducktail could inherit enough wealth to be practically impervious to public opinion. This has happened in New York City. A man who could never be elected city comptroller is running for president.

The dreamers in the Republican Party imagine that success will steady him and he will accept wise counsel and come into the gravitational field of reality; but it isn’t happening. The Orlando tweets show it: The man does not have a heart. How, in a few weeks, should Mr. Ryan and Mr. McConnell teach him basic humanity? The bigot and braggart they see today is the same man that New Yorkers have been observing for 40 years. A man obsessed with marble walls and gold-plated doorknobs, who has the sensibility of a giant sea tortoise.

His response to the Orlando tragedy is one more clue that this election is different from any other. If Mitt Romney or John McCain had been elected president, you might be disappointed but you wouldn’t fear for the fate of the Republic. This

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Thursday, June 16, 2016 6:31 PM

Donald Trump’s fans love his gimmick, comic routine, style of performance, etc., but there’s no method to his madness.

Traditionally, Republican Party politicians have tried to shy away from saying overtly racist things precisely because racism is not a winning general election platform. At times it’s possible to thread the needle between what the base wants to hear and what the general public wants to hear with “dog whistle” messages.

What Trump found was that a plain old whistle (not a “dog whistle”) was louder and more effective at reaching its intended audience of cranky older white people. The problem is that humans (not just Republicans) can hear it too, and there aren't enough cranky older white people to win a general election.
www.vox.com/2016/6/16/11940574/trump-method-madness

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KPO
Friday, June 17, 2016 12:42 AM

Journalist goes to a Trump rally and live tweets it:

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/06/a-journalist-went-to-a-donald-tr
ump-rally-yesterday-and-came-back-shocked-here-are-his-tweets
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Friday, June 17, 2016 8:40 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"All you have to do is point out the real truth." If you believe that, then you have misunderstood all of recorded history.

If truth doesn't suffice then the only thing to do is resort to lying. So ... you must approve when Donald - or Hillary - lie. Because they're both doing the only thing that works. Or are your standards different depending on WHO does it?




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!





Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Friday, June 17, 2016 5:50 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

If truth doesn't suffice then the only thing to do is resort to lying. So ... you must approve when Donald - or Hillary - lie. Because they're both doing the only thing that works. Or are your standards different depending on WHO does it?

An editorial by a Republican who hates Hillary and yet he won't vote, as mentioned in one of his previous editorials because he has his public reputation to protect, for Trump. I believe Krauthammer will vote for Trump on his secret ballot, since that secret can't change his public reputation, but I will never know for sure, which is Krauthammer's advantage in his public life. Unlike Krauthammer, I don't play games of saying one thing publicly and doing in secret something else:

Trump won’t be running as anyone but himself

Charles Krauthammer says while some hoped he’d turn ‘presidential,’ the candidate is staying on the path that helped him clinch the GOP nod.
www.nationalreview.com/article/436717/donald-trump-wont-get-presidenti
al


When in his 1964 GOP acceptance speech Barry Goldwater declared that “extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice,” a reporter sitting near journalist/historian Theodore White famously exclaimed: “My God, he’s going to run as Barry Goldwater!”

Six weeks into Donald Trump’s general election campaign, Republicans are discovering that he indeed intends to run as Donald Trump. He has boasted that he could turn “presidential” — respectful, respectable, reticent, reserved bordering on boring — at will. Apparently, he can’t.

GOP leaders who fell in line behind Trump after he clinched the nomination expected, or at least hoped, that he would prove malleable, willing to adjust his more extreme positions and tactics to suit a broader electorate.

Two problems. First, impulse control: Trump says what he actually feels, whatever comes into his head at any moment. Second, a certain logic: Trump won the primaries Sinatra-style, his way —against the odds, the experts and the conventional rules. So why change now? “You win the pennant,” Trump explained, “and now you’re in the World Series — you gonna change?”

Hence his response to the Orlando terror attack. Events like these generally benefit the challenger politically because any misfortune that befalls the nation gets attributed, fairly or not, directly or indirectly, to the incumbent party (e.g., the 2008 financial collapse). And Hillary Clinton is running as the quasi-incumbent.

The textbook response for the challenger, therefore, is to offer sympathy, give a general statement or two about the failure of the incumbent’s national security policy, then step back to let the resulting national fear and loathing, amplified by the media, take effect.

Instead, Trump made himself the (political) story. First, he offered himself unseemly congratulations for his prescience about terrorism. (He’d predicted more would be coming. What a visionary.) Then he went beyond blaming the president for lack of will or wisdom in fighting terrorism, and darkly implied presidential sympathy for the enemy. “There’s something going on,” he charged. He then reiterated his ban on Muslim immigration.

Why? Because that’s what Trump does. And because it worked before. It was after last December’s San Bernardino massacre that Trump first called for a Muslim ban. It earned him lots of opprobrium from GOP leaders and lots of support from GOP voters. He shot up in the polls, never to descend until he clinched. So why not do it again?

Because the general election is a different game. Trump assumes that the Republican electorate is representative of the national electorate. It’s not. Take the Muslim ban. Sixty-eight percent of GOP voters support it. Only 38 percent of Democrats do. And there are approximately 7 million more Democrats in the country. (Independents are split 51-40 in favor.)

The other major example of doing what’s always worked is the ad hominem attack on big-dog opponents. It worked in the

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Friday, June 17, 2016 9:48 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

In the meantime, I'm so anti-Hillary/ anti-establishment, I probably WILL vote for Trump.




President Vladimir Putin has reaffirmed that he views Donald Trump as a "bright" person and appreciates the Republican presidential candidate's promise to turn a new page in U.S. relations with Russia.

http://www.ivpressonline.com/news/apgeneral/the-latest-putin-reaffirms
-his-compliments-to-donald-trump/article_e6cbd18e-0a33-5da6-9457-4b130b04d8a6.html



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Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:11 PM

Donald Trump, clad in coveralls and holding a pitchfork, joined Will & Grace's Megan Mullaly on stage at the 2005 Emmys to do a rendition of the Green Acres theme song. Farm livin' probably isn't the life for Trump—even though he told Iowa voters, following his second place primary finish, that he loved their state so much he was considering buying a farm there. Watch Trump's (weirdly decent) performance.



The Trump Files: Watch Donald Not Be Able to Multiply 17 By 6
(Neither could his kids)
Still, he insists his wrong answer is correct.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, June 22, 2016 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Donald Trump, clad in coveralls and holding a pitchfork, joined Will & Grace's Megan Mullaly on stage at the 2005 Emmys to do a rendition of the Green Acres theme song. Farm livin' probably isn't the life for Trump—even though he told Iowa voters, following his second place primary finish, that he loved their state so much he was considering buying a farm there. Watch Trump's (weirdly decent) performance.


The Trump Files: Watch Donald Not Be Able to Multiply 17 By 6
(Neither could his kids)
Still, he insists his wrong answer is correct.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



No matter how you cut it. Trump is setting himself up to be the greatest TV and radio personality. Trumping Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck. After the elections he will be raking in the money catering to and pushing the buttons of nuts.

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Thursday, June 23, 2016 1:43 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:

No matter how you cut it, Trump is setting himself up to be the greatest TV and radio personality. Trumping Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck. After the elections he will be raking in the money catering to and pushing the buttons of nuts.

That sounds like a good theory to explain Trump’s campaign. He doesn’t seem serious about winning. He would love to win, but he is not campaigning in a way that would make winning a near certainty. He is obviously not afraid to lose.

Maybe because being President is not his plan.

I read that Trump is not doing much fund-raising, only having $1.3 million at the end of May. And Trump is not studying Republican Party, only correcting his biggest errors after the rest of his party loudly complains. Trump has thrown GOP messaging into chaos. He’s been trying to act like an orthodox NRA conservative on guns, but he doesn’t really understand this simple issue and he doesn’t care enough about winning to study what he should say on this issue or any other. His instinct was to say that Orlando showed the country would have been better off if more Pulse clubgoers had been packing heat, a position so absurd that even the NRA — which does not condone gunplay under the influence of alcohol — condemned.

Now Trump is backtracking, trying to say that he didn’t say what he clearly did say about wishing random clubgoers had opened fire in a crowded room after knocking back a few drinks.

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