Hillary Clinton: just because she deserves her own thread
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Saturday, September 27, 2025 01:07
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So, instead of discussing Hillary by proxy by slamming Donald and pointedly ignoring Bernie, let's talk about Hillary specifically. We've already talked about her negatives - potential indictments, unconcern for the working and middle class and focus on big-money interests (those free trade agreements she was for before she was sort-of against; cozy big-bank relationships), famously insincere and hypocritical on the issues, running a campaign of identity politics; revolving-door wealth through the Clinton Foundation, State Department, and individually; corruptly in bed with the corrupt minions of the democratic party, a history of VERY BAD judgment on Libya, Ukraine and Syria - which she refuses to acknowledge and correct, and, my all-time favorite, neo-con war-hawk jonesing for a nuclear confrontation with Russia (probably by miscalculation, but hey, it's not like she has a history of serious miscalculations or anything! nope, if you listen to her everything's all good!).
How about we discuss her positives.
Anybody?
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Third World War, the Key Is On “Start”
First of all, why is this in the Hillary Clinton thread? These are actions by NATO and the Obama presidency - Hillary doesn't even have a job in the Obama White House anymore. Why don't you go ahead and create an "Obama warmonger" thread for your silly blog articles?
Secondly, do you agree with the predictions made in the article?
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"The US and NATO flooded the Baltic and Black Sea with new bases and ships, and strengthened the front line on the ground – Baltic states – Poland – Ukraine – Romania – Bulgaria – Turkey.
The front is outlined. The key to the Third World War is set to “start”."
"Because of this, World War III could begin in the Balkans. The key is set to “start”."
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Who I vote for is none of your concern. There's a reason why it's a secret ballot.
Ha. Well it's clear to me (and I'll bet others) that you're more active and vociferous on these boards about this presidential election than you've ever been about any previous election. The Bernie Sanders campaign will fizzle out long before November, so it will be interesting to see if you keep up your vehement attacks on Hillary up until then, because if you do, sorry kitten, the secret ballot won't be able to hide the shame and embarrassment of your very obvious Trump support.
Exciting times
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Obama's endorsement of Hillary:
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I managed to stumble across this linky:
http://www.hilliary.info/
Looks like I'll need time to go through it all.
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Originally posted by kpo:Quote:
Third World War, the Key Is On “Start”
First of all, why is this in the Hillary Clinton thread? These are actions by NATO and the Obama presidency - Hillary doesn't even have a job in the Obama White House anymore.
Because many consider Hilliary to be a continuation of Obama
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... so it will be interesting to see if you keep up your vehement attacks on Hillary up until then, because if you do, sorry kitten, the secret ballot won't be able to hide the shame and embarrassment of your very obvious Trump support.
I'm an 'anybody but Hillary' kind of voter, for reasons I've explained more than once. But I'll go through MY reasons, again.
With the smoking ruins of US Libyan policy, Ukrainian policy, and Syrian policy laid at Hillary's feet, with her bellicose statements against Russia on her website, with her 'Israel first and always' commitment, AND WITH HER REFUSAL TO ADMIT HER EFFORTS HAVE GONE BADLY AND NEED RETHINKING - I don't want her finger anywhere near the red button.
And I don't want her spoiling for a fight against anyone else who has THEIR finger on the red button.
She's pointlessly aggressive, an inveterate liar of the neo-CON stripe who has no ethics about ceaselessly misleading the country - and risking our lives, has a history of deeply flawed judgment about the US role in international dealings - and, let me say this again ...
... shows absolutely ZERO ability to admit to and learn from the things she's done that have ALL, without exception, gone completely, terribly wrong.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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So, instead of discussing Hillary by proxy by slamming Donald and pointedly ignoring Bernie, let's talk about Hillary specifically. We've already talked about her negatives ...
How about we discuss her positives.
Anybody?
.... *crickets*
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
So, instead of discussing Hillary by proxy by slamming Donald and pointedly ignoring Bernie, let's talk about Hillary specifically. We've already talked about her negatives ...
How about we discuss her positives.
Anybody?
.... *crickets*
Well first I would say despite all you have said about her, she IS going to be the next president of the United States. Need I say more? I think not.
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Since Hillary is a warmonger, Republicans should love her, but they have that email thing against her. Unfortunately for Republicans, no secretary of state ever used a state.gov email account until John Kerry. Republicans should attack all secretaries of state for improper handling government documents. Congressional investigations and indictments for all of them who are still alive. www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/state-dept-foia-officers-didnt-know
-didnt-ask-about-clinton-use-of-private-email/2016/06/09/d8d99194-2e93-11e6-b5db-e9bc84a2c8e4_story.html
Karin Lang, a State Department official responsible for records management, testified yesterday about Hillary Clinton's email practices:
Lang, a career employee who in July 2015 became director of the Executive Secretariat staff, which is responsible for records management, said that while a unit responsible for FOIA requests was told that Clinton had no government email account when she took office in January 2009, no one in the unit ever asked whether she used a personal account to conduct business before she stepped down in 2013.
“Prior to Secretary Kerry, no secretary of state used a State.gov email address,” said Lang, supporting an explanation given by aides to the presumptive Democratic nominee for president that her email setup while at State was not unusual.
....Lang said that the FOIA office did not begin to search for records in response to Judicial Watch’s 2013 request for information concerning Abedin’s employment until after the group sued, and that at the unit chief’s direction, the FOIA office searched only human-resources records, not emails.
Apparently the head of State's FOIA unit "grew curious" about Hillary's email arrangement when that famous picture of her using a BlackBerry first appeared. It just goes to show that fame has both its ups and downs.
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