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Sunday, June 5, 2016 1:49 AM

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Originally posted by second:
A list of 58 Conspiracy Theories (and Counting!) endorsed by Trump
www.alternet.org/right-wing/58-donald-trump-conspiracy-theories-and-co
unting-definitive-trump-conspiracy-guide


For example: 3) Hawaii Official Was Murdered In Birth Certificate Cover-up

How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama’s “birth certificate” died in plane crash today. All others lived
1:32 PM-12 Dec 2013


Hey, now. This linky might be fun. Gotta chase it down when time allows, based upon your endorsement of it.

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Sunday, June 5, 2016 1:54 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump Supporters "Terrorized" In Massive San Jose Street Brawl As Police "Lose Control"

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Shocking scenes are occuring on the streets of San Jose as Trump supporters are chased, punched, kicked, and, as ABC News' Tom Llamas reports "terrorized" as the local police "appears to have lost control." Mobs of protestors, many carrying mexican flags
Ship them the fuck to Mexico if that's where their loyalties are
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, took over the streets ahead of a Trump rally branding tire irons and burning American flags.

Protestors made up mostly of young ppl. Some throwing up gang signs. There were ppl who came to demonstrate & some who just wanted to brawl

— Tom Llamas (@TomLlamasABC) June 3, 2016

Full video of the chaotic situation...



This @Timcast video from the #Trump protest in San Jose is really disturbing. https://t.co/wTp8idVvJH

— Blogs of War (@BlogsofWar) June 3, 2016



Social media is awash with videos of the events...

Our video of Trump supporter who says he was beaten up coming out of @realDonaldTrump rally. pic.twitter.com/PQSxjXfonl

— Tom Llamas (@TomLlamasABC) June 3, 2016



JUST IN: Trump supporters being attacked, assaulted by protestors outside Trump rally in San Jose - @Jacobnbc https://t.co/l7Lrhd7b9a

— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) June 3, 2016

BREAKING NEWS: Trump supporters pelted with eggs, bloodied by agitators outside San Jose rally (@SaraMurray) pic.twitter.com/AYhSaQJPoL

— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) June 3, 2016

And just general rioting...

I called 911 but no one answered. Donald trump protest in San Jose, CA pic.twitter.com/LwaWyeYZfq

— Marcus DiPaola (@marcusdipaola) June 3, 2016

Raw video: Fighting continues in streets following @realDonaldTrump rally in San Jose. pic.twitter.com/PR9zaAzZKy

— M. Scott Mahaskey (@smahaskey) June 3, 2016

Raw video: Punches thrown in clashes following @realDonaldTrump rally in San Jose. pic.twitter.com/U4d7vSbkf2

— M. Scott Mahaskey (@smahaskey) June 3, 2016

Anti-Trump rioters even burned American flags...

This happened tonight in San Jose (@dcbigjohn) pic.twitter.com/PaDrFdx5cY

— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) June 3, 2016

No this is not the streets of Tehran... this is San Jose - the best city in America to get a job!!


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-03/trump-supporters-terrorized-m
assive-san-jose-street-brawl-police-lose-control




I am not clear about your sentiment or intention here. Are you sympathizing with the law-abiding citizens who were assaulted and battered while the criminal thugs were under the protection of the "police" of San Jose?
Or are you endorsing the criminal thugs battering the law-abiding citizens? Or did you hope the criminals thugs would have also attacked their protectors, the "police" of San Jose?

Could you clarify please?

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Sunday, June 5, 2016 2:01 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Those private conversations that Paul Ryan mentioned between him and Trump culminated in Ryan’s endorsement of Trump upon the stated ground that Trump would become Ryan’s puppet. Trump, Ryan said, will support Ryan’s fiscal agenda. And regulatory agenda. And Legal Movement agenda. Which is what most large Republican donors care about. Trump’s made it clear that the federal judiciary will be a branch of Koch Industries. And that almost certainly is a promise he would keep.


This could be good news, if true. But who really believes Trump could keep a promise?
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He’s assured Ryan that the Kochs, the securities and banking industry donors, and the pharmaceutical industry donors will control their respective industry’s administrative agencies, beyond anything that existed even in the Reagan and Bush II administrations. He’s done so publicly about the EPA. And undoubtedly privately regarding the others.

Ryan doesn’t trust Trump to keep his promises. But I think he needn’t worry, not because Trump himself actually understands what a promise is—he doesn’t—but because it will be Ryan and the Kochs who choose the vice presidential nominee. The person who quickly will become the actual or de facto presidential nominee or, if the ticket wins, president within a few months. Dick Cheney would be perfect.


Are you suggesting the Veep will run the country, the Administration, and Trump will become just a sales guy, a pitchman, somebody to grab headlines and scare the world, and tick off Americans? If so, interesting take. Do you think that dynamic has occurred before, or this would be something new?

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Sunday, June 5, 2016 2:04 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Too bad you're wedded to the idea of Hillary as the only alternative. Because it's not entirely clear at this point that she's going to remain unindicted, or that she'll win the general election. Too many people on both sides are enraged about the status quo = which is exactly what Hillary represents.


I don't understand why so many don't see this. Of all the remaining candidates, she is the only one which truly embodies the status quo. Even when Cruz was in, she took the cake.

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Sunday, June 5, 2016 3:56 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Are you suggesting the Veep will run the country, the Administration, and Trump will become just a sales guy, a pitchman, somebody to grab headlines and scare the world, and tick off Americans? If so, interesting take. Do you think that dynamic has occurred before, or this would be something new?

I think Cheney did Bush's thinking. He could think for Trump, too. Trump will need the help.

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Monday, June 6, 2016 4:44 PM

Smoke and mirrors, my friend, smoke and mirrors.

All the candidates, including Drumpf, are of the "establishment." Bernie because he's been in politics a number of years, Hilary and the Donald, because he uses
the system to build his empire - all part and parcel of the status quo.

All this talk about "establishment" is a ruse, a flim-flam, a con game perpetrated
by people like Bernie and Drumpf so as to pretend to be different, and with the people. Nothing could be further from the truth. Hilary, at least, is not pretending to be anything else but part of the "establishment," the so-called status quo.

Yes, Bernie does say he's a progressive.....really!? Then why did he declare himself a democrat? And why did he run for president? And Mayor, and so forth.
All of these positions are a large part of the "establishment" regardless of
ideology. Sure, Bernie marched with civil rights leaders and protested, but he
decided to work within that very "establishment" and locked himself in with the
rest of them. The Donald doesn't have a clue what he's doing; he's just doing
his "puppet" thing and repeating what he's told. He actually thinks he's going to run things in the White House. Good luck with that.


SGG


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Too bad you're wedded to the idea of Hillary as the only alternative. Because it's not entirely clear at this point that she's going to remain unindicted, or that she'll win the general election. Too many people on both sides are enraged about the status quo = which is exactly what Hillary represents.


I don't understand why so many don't see this. Of all the remaining candidates, she is the only one which truly embodies the status quo. Even when Cruz was in, she took the cake.

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Monday, June 6, 2016 5:11 PM

Donald Trump ups his game, moves from lying to meta-lying
Start at 5:45


Here is the start of a Jake Tapper question to Donald Trump this morning. Trump has just gotten done lying yet again—and at length—about his support for the Iraq War, and Tapper finally decides to move on:

TAPPER: At a rally in Sacramento, you accused [Hillary Clinton] of lying about your foreign policy as it relates to expressing support for Japan being able to get nuclear weapons.

TRUMP: A hundred percent.

TAPPER: Well, let me just read from you....This is from an April 3 interview with Chris Wallace of Fox News. You said: "North Korea has nukes, Japan has a problem with that. I mean, they have a big problem with that. Maybe they would in fact be better off if they defend themselves from North Korea."

And Chris Wallace says, "With nukes?"

And you say, "Including with nukes, yes, including with nukes."

So...
From transcript at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1606/05/sotu.01.html

This is followed by nearly a thousand words over the course of three minutes of Tapper vainly trying to get Trump to address his question at all. It's not that Trump tap dances or makes excuses or pretends he really meant something different. He just flatly insists on talking about something else and bowls over Tapper whenever he tries to get him back on track. Finally Tapper gives up and moves on again.

This is not a criticism of Tapper, who has been more aggressive than most about trying to hold Trump accountable for the things he says. But what can you do? Trump very plainly has expressed support for Japan getting nukes. It's on tape. He's been explicit on multiple occasions that we should withdraw our military presence from Japan unless they're willing to pay us a lot more money. That's on tape too.

Hillary Clinton responded with this: "It's no small thing when he suggests that America should withdraw our military support for Japan, encourage them to get nuclear weapons." That's 100 percent accurate. It's not even slightly exaggerated. And yet Trump blithely insists that she's lying and then refuses to answer questions about it. Eventually exhaustion sets in and everyone just lets it go.

How do you handle someone like that?

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Monday, June 6, 2016 8:14 PM

Ben Stein: 'I don't think Trump knows a goddamn thing about economics' but he’ll still vote for Donald Trump despite his ‘preposterous’ ideas about the economy. www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/04/ben-stein-interview-donald-tr
ump-economics


He is appalled by Trump’s anti-free trade rhetoric that he says could lead to a trade war. Hillary Clinton probably has a better grasp of things, Stein thinks. Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is “willfully ignorant”.

“I have seen a lot of elections and I have never seen anything like this. It seems to me it is a testament to the complete collapse of education that people can have such preposterous policies as an end to free trade and think that’s going to help America. It’s just startling that: a) the candidates know so little and; b) that the voters have not been better informed about this. The American education system is in a state of freefall collapse so that certainly explains a lot,” he says.

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Monday, June 6, 2016 8:35 PM

Fuck Ben Stein.

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Monday, June 6, 2016 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Fuck Ben Stein.

Huge Payday Fueled By Donald Trump’s Campaign
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/06/media-execs-trump/

media executives in charge of much of America’s broadcasting industry were worried that Donald Trump, who eschewed traditional political advertising, might dampen prospects for a high-spending campaign season.

That fear is gone.

In the first few months of this year, some executives expressed concern that Trump might continue to rely on his extraordinary free media exposure and spend less money than traditional Republican candidates. But over the last two months, the concern has dissipated and transformed into excitement that this year is on track to be the most expensive election in history.

In reviewing the transcripts, we observed no discussions during any of the calls about the media’s role in creating the Trump phenomenon, or the media’s duty to present voters with the information necessary to make informed decisions.

Indeed, Trump’s rise has been paved by nonstop, largely tabloid coverage in broadcast media that has drowned out his competitors and pushed coverage of policy issues to the margins. By March of this year, Trump had received nearly $2 billion in free media coverage, precluding the need for significant advertising spending.

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