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OMG what is WRONG with this woman??? (Put your psychiatric/ neurologic disganostics to work!)

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Thursday, June 9, 2016 21:50
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Wednesday, June 1, 2016 11:26 PM

"Explain this, how could you even think that a pilot could be spastic?"

The same way Dubya was brain damaged? Things happen.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Thursday, June 2, 2016 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Explain this, how could you even think that a pilot could be spastic?"

The same way Dubya was brain damaged? Things happen.




So do you think then that she was tortured by the Russians enough to cause brain damage?

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Thursday, June 2, 2016 1:07 AM

No, because subsequent videos of her in the Rada show a normally behaving person. And brain damage tends to be permanent. My hypothesis - which I've repeated twice, and which you've been unable to read - IS THAT SHE WAS ON SOME MEDICATION(S) which caused her unusual behaviors.

I put it in CAPS to help you focus.

But yes, things happen. Sometimes temporary things. Sometimes permanent things. Just because she was a well-functioning pilot in the past doesn't mean things couldn't have happened to her to change the way she functioned. You must be really, really stupid to not understand that. Too bad stupid is permanent.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Thursday, June 2, 2016 2:59 AM

HOLLOW, NIT PICKY SPECULATION.

The reasons for her behavior and attitude could be even more mundane than evil or drugged:

[The only English I saw in the YT comments section was a couple of pro-Russia and pro-Ukraine people telling each other to fuck off (this right here tells me this war is based on not much more than the equivalent of Dems vs Repubs, but with deadly weaponry. Stupid. Pointless.), so I have no idea of the context of the video. Anyone who doesn't understand Ukrainian fluently, doesn't know either.]

Pain - Already been mentioned.

PTSD - Wasn't she in a war? She could have seen some major shit.

Nervous - Could be that she's not really into public speaking. Unless she has a teleprompter, she's totally winging it. And I don't think it was really that bad. I took that "running out of air" bit as a pointed sigh of frustration and emphasis. What's the size of the crowd (behind the camera)? Is she a theater vet who's used to being in front of people?

Bored - Looking around at the interior architecture. How tall is the ceiling? Is it the nicest looking building she's ever been in? Maybe since she was a POW, she habitually checks out all possible exits and escape routes.

Blur - The poor video quality most of the time makes it hard to see her true countenance. When her face is a watercolor, it's open to false interpretation.

Annoyed - Get on with it already! Maybe she's impatient by nature and is trying to pull a George Costanza to go home early.





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Thursday, June 2, 2016 5:06 AM

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I'm curious - do you find her behavior to be typical adult behavior for someone who's the focus of an official public function?




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Thursday, June 2, 2016 6:48 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
She was an army aviation (primarily support) helicopter pilot for Ukraine. Somehow, in 2014 she was captured by separatists who then handed her over to Russia. As best I can tell, she achieved fame by going on a hunger strike (or perhaps a few) during the nearly 2 years she was a prisoner.

In 2014 she was voted into Ukraine's Rada (parliament) as a member of the All-Ukrainian Union "Fatherland" or Batkivschina party while still a prisoner. She formally resigned her army post at that time.


She resigned her Army Commission while a Prisoner of War? I didn't know that was possible. Maybe it is an Ukraine-only thing.

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Thursday, June 2, 2016 7:44 AM

In November 2014, while still imprisoned, Savchenko was elected to the Verkhovna Rada in the 2014 Ukrainian parliamentary election, and she formally resigned from her military post.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadiya_Savchenko

Technically she wasn't a POW, though none of the sources I looked at mentioned exactly how she was captured. Her trial was for murder in Russian civil (non-military) court.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Thursday, June 2, 2016 11:05 AM

Well, as usual, THUGR was wrong. It would be nice if he surprised us once in a while.

But to explain why I posted this ... the vid was pointed out to me. When I watched it, I was horrified. But aside from being horrified, I didn't know how to react.

Was the horror that Savchenko was a rabid psychopath, and that Kiev was using her as a rallying symbol for its govt? In that case, Savchenko should be locked up (again) along with Poroshenko.

Was the horror that Savchenko was at her physical end, and that Poroshenko had her propped up in front of the cameras? In that case, Savchencko should be given a cup of hot chocolate and tucked into bed for a long, healing rest. And Poroshenko should be jailed.

Or was the situation something in-between? Or was it something else?

It was real-world awful, but hard to interpret.

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Thursday, June 2, 2016 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, as usual, THUGR was wrong. It would be nice if he surprised us once in a while.

But to explain why I posted this ... the vid was pointed out to me. When I watched it, I was horrified. But aside from being horrified, I didn't know how to react.

Was the horror that Savchenko was a rabid psychopath, and that Kiev was using her as a rallying symbol for its govt? In that case, Savchenko should be locked up (again) along with Poroshenko.

Was the horror that Savchenko was at her physical end, and that Poroshenko had her propped up in front of the cameras? In that case, Savchencko should be given a cup of hot chocolate and tucked into bed for a long, healing rest. And Poroshenko should be jailed.

Or was the situation something in-between? Or was it something else?

It was real-world awful, but hard to interpret.




SIG, I found a post from your husband. He seems quite upset. My wife posts on Firefly and she is nuts. I married a sociopath.

Let your lying lips be put to silence

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Sunday, June 5, 2016 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, as usual, THUGR was wrong. It would be nice if he surprised us once in a while.

But to explain why I posted this ... the vid was pointed out to me. When I watched it, I was horrified. But aside from being horrified, I didn't know how to react.

Was the horror that Savchenko was a rabid psychopath, and that Kiev was using her as a rallying symbol for its govt? In that case, Savchenko should be locked up (again) along with Poroshenko.

Was the horror that Savchenko was at her physical end, and that Poroshenko had her propped up in front of the cameras? In that case, Savchencko should be given a cup of hot chocolate and tucked into bed for a long, healing rest. And Poroshenko should be jailed.

Or was the situation something in-between? Or was it something else?

It was real-world awful, but hard to interpret.




SIG, I found a post from your husband. He seems quite upset. My wife posts on Firefly and she is nuts. I married a sociopath.

Let your lying lips be put to silence



That's the best you got?

Boy, that was pathetic.

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