JO 753 for Prezident!

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JO753

Friday, May 6, 2016 4:29 PM

OK, Trump iz clearly not qualified in any way to be prezident uv the United States uv America, But you arent very enthuziastic about Hillary either, so wut to do?

If you are still a Republican (hehehehe!) you know the gig iz up if The Donald winz kuz he will surely drive us into the same ditch that Bush did only faster, so your choise iz simple - stay home on election day. He wuznt going to win anyway, so you can at least say you didnt vote for him and hope thingz go bad during Hillaryz tenure.

If you are a Dem or independent, maybe I can convins you that this iz an opportunity to finally break the stranglehold the 2 partyz hav had on America forever.

The rite-in vote!

This iz why it exists. Wen nun uv the candidates are akseptibl, but there iz sumwun you believ can do the job, just rite the name. It bypassez the entire groteskly bloated money fueled monstrosity that the election prosess haz bekum.

If I win, it woud at the very least hav the effect uv derailing the corrupting money influens for a wile. Then maybe the next election woudnt be such a drawn out boring media hog.

So, why me?

I got real ideaz. Orijinal, fundamental flaw solving big ideaz. The kind uv out uv the box stuff that only a rezident outsider can think uv. You may not like sum or any uv them, but they will work.

This topic iz the entirety uv my campain. Send no donationz, but you are welkum to start a super pak on my behaf. If I'm feelin a little enerjetic, I mite repost this in a few other forumz I'm in.

And, sins I no nun uv you GoPs woud ever vote for an ultra progressiv liberal like me, you shoud still vote, but rite in your own name.

JO753

Saturday, May 7, 2016 10:31 AM

But that woud mean you cant vote for anybody exept yourself. Then nobody coud win!

O! I see! Injeneus!

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JO753

Sunday, May 8, 2016 2:25 AM

Let me tell you about America under the 753 administration.

It will be the greatest ever, believ me!

It will be so great we will need to bild a 200 ft wall around the entire thing! We'll be keeping out illigal immigrants from Germany! And Saudi Arabia! Oil shieks will be trying to sneek in, let me tell you!

1st thing on my ajenda, quadruple NASAz bujet, kuz we are colonizing Marz! It'll create so many jobz it wont be funny, believ me. We will need to anex Mexico & Canada just to hav enuf workerz and they will be begging to be anexed! SpaceX will bekum the biggest company in the world. Buy stock now, thats my advise to you.

Obama wanted to fix the roadz & brijez, but the assklown repugnicanz blocked it. (Obama'z a good guy. We get along great. I got only admiration for him) Obamaz an old fuddy duddy - roadz are dirty filthy tar and gravel. Its horrible, let me tell you. All that polution. Forget roadz & brijez, how about flying carz!!!! We dont need no stinking roadz! It'll be amazing, trust me on this. I will go down in history az the greatest prezident ever.

(hey, its working for Trump. Who am I to argue with sekses?)

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JO753

Sunday, May 8, 2016 6:48 AM

I know youre waiting for it. Elefant in the room. We gotta talk about my competitorz.

Hillary.

Hillary iz great, we get along just fine. But for for Prezident? c'mon! Just the other day we were both at the same party - Kevin James, Madonna, Arnold Schwartzenneggar - believ me, it wuz unbelievable, you dont wanna be there if you cant keep up. But for Hillary, Mrs. Clinton, its no laffing matter! Seriously, folks, you know wut I'm talking about. Its disgusting.

John Kasich.

Great governor. You cant beat hiz record there in Ohio. Nothing rong with that. But governor iz little league, seriously. Kindergarten. He'z a litewate! And frankly, boring. Very boring. You wont even remember him next yir. Wut? He quit alredy? Good! He took my advise!

Donald Trump.

Great biznessman. Good guy. We're good frendz. But he'z going to crash & burn and we dont need him taking the hole country down with him. And look at hiz fase! Look befor he started campaning and now! Its like he'z being drained by a Skeksy! Can you imajin wut he'd look like after 4 yirz az Prezident?! Believ me, you know! Look at Bush and Obama befor and after. Its terrible. You dont wanna know! Trump woud be a raizin aftr 2 yirz! He fizikly cant handl being Prezident!

Bernie Sanders.

You gotta hand it to him - for an old guy, he'z got gumption. Never met him, but hear he haz a sharp mind. He'z been doing a fine job in the senate also. Credit where its due. Think about Lincoln, he wuz pretty good. Lejendary. But wuts he thinking? Therez no way he can catch up to Hillary now and he woudnt want the job anyway. Too much stress and next thing you know he'z keeled over and we got Warren or whoever smackadoodle he picks az hiz running mate. Trust me you dont want that. Its terrible. Believ me.

Ted Cruz.

Mr. Dramatic Pauze. HA! Every sentens! "Honey, I'm going to the IHOP......for lunch. Do you want me to stop at K Mart for sumthing...on the way back?" He'z a real fiter, dont get me rong. He stood up to Obama all theze yirz. Great American. Real visionary. But believ me let me tell you you dont wanna know its terrible. O! He dropped out alredy! See? They are dropping like flyz! I am so great!

I'm so great that they are quiting befor I even got started!!! It'll be UNBELIEVABLE believ me! God bless The United States uv America!

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, May 9, 2016 2:40 AM

Count me anyone but JO.

JO753

Monday, May 9, 2016 8:03 AM

OK, we got a vote! Marked you down for Bernie Sanders if he duznt win the primary and Marilyn Vos Savant if he duz.

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JO753

Monday, May 9, 2016 3:08 PM

2nd, where are you?

Az the smartest member here, I wuz expecting you to throw your hat into the ring. Dont wait too long or I'll be drafting you az my vice prez!

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SECOND

Monday, May 9, 2016 6:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
2nd, where are you? I wuz expecting you to throw your hat into the ring. Dont wait too long or I'll be drafting you az my vice prez!

Don’t pick me. I think one of a very few simple qualifications for being President is a proven ability to plan ahead for events that are inevitable – events such as annual flooding and elections. Anybody who waited until May 2016 to declare they are running for President is a body proven to be unable to plan ahead.

It is sad to say, but there are only dozens of Americans who even have that one simple qualification. Their names are listed on wiki. Pick one for your preferred Prez or V.P. running mate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_third_party_and_independen
t_presidential_candidates,_2016

And I’ve got to say one thing disqualifying Trump is that he can’t bluff. Yes, he can bluff Americans, but he can’t bluff foreigners who have access to the internet and know the real meaning of "provable facts". Trump bluffs with “I’m very smart!” or “I respect women!” or “I’m worth $10 billion!” or “In a national emergency, I’ve got a cool head! And head of hair!” None of the words out Trump’s mouth are ever more than posturing and that is a big disqualification for a Prez, although not at all for a real estate salesman and entertainment entrepreneur. He knows how to put on a big show, except that is not enough to be Prez.

Trump bluffed again, saying: “America is the highest-taxed nation in the world!” Facts can’t stop Trump's mouth!
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/05/09/the-facts-have-a-well-know
n-center-left-bias/
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/05/binc-watch-its-sunday-morning-s
o-today-its-meet-press

JO753

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 4:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:Anybody who waited until May 2016 to declare they are running for President is a body proven to be unable to plan ahead.

3 thingz rong there.

1. The prez needz to be able to take quik action wen an opportunity prezents itself. And timing iz very important. In this case jumping in too early with a zero dollar campain - befor the usual primary prosess had finished refreshing the memory uv the public on how badly it works - risks it being ignored az a stale joke wen it counted. 'Saw that alredy. Dont need to look agen.'

2. Frum the ZOL website, August 21 2011:
OK, let me simmer down. I'll get started on the prezidential campayn site next week. Not for 2012! If Obama duznt get re-elected...sheesh! The idiots win. I'll run for 2016 az a rite in candidate. I'll call it the NO MONEY campayn.

Not proof enuf uv foresite? I'm all about long ranje planning! Take a look at http://www.dailykos.com/blog/JO%20753/ Haf the thingz there are on a decadez long timetable.

3. A big part uv the idea here iz that we need to get rid uv this insanely bloated election prosess. It haz run amok, costing billionz uv dollarz and dragging on longer and longer And iz it giving us only the best candidates?

Quote:
It is sad to say, but there are only dozens of Americans who even have that one simple qualification. Their names are listed on wiki. Pick one for your preferred Prez or V.P. running mate.

Their problem iz quite obvious. The minit you say '3rd party' to an American, hiz brain starts a preprogrammed 'thot' prosess that endz with "so I'd be throwing my vote away and the bad guy will win."

Imajin insted if everybody just picked sum American sitizen they admired and believed had the qualificationz, so thered be a few million megalomaniacs with 1 vote, many thouzandz uv karizmatic idiots with lots uv frendz, and finally, hundredz uv truly qualified candidates, wun uv wich will hav the most votes. Youd hear sumthing about the top contenderz on the newz beginning perhaps a month before election day and if you care, read sumthing about them and pick the wun you like. The way it shoud be!

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JO753

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 5:16 AM

HA! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermin_Supreme

Great!

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JO753

Sunday, May 15, 2016 2:29 AM

Due to the lack uv enthuziastic respons to this thred, I am officially suspending my campane.

No, no, simmer down peepl! Its not the end uv the world. Notis that I sed 'suspending', not 'ending'.

If Hillary gets tossed in the slammer over her email crimez agenst humanity, the situation coud chanje. But for now the burden and grueling pase uv the campane iz too much for me, considering the likelyhood uv failure.

Thanks for your support. I recomend joining Bernie'z or Hillary'z campane if you still hav the urje to fite.

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JO753

Wednesday, November 9, 2016 4:25 AM

Voted today. Went with all the Demz on the ballot wether I knew them or not.

But there wuz 1 offis that had no Dem challanjer to the Republican - State House reprezentativ. There wuz the rite-in option, so I rote in my name.

So, if absolutely nowun els botherz to vote for IL State House rep, I will win!

I wundr wut the pay iz?

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JO753

Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:09 PM

OK, quit nagging. I am officially beginning my 2020 campane rite now.

I mite take a job az senator or congressman in 2018 just to get sum insite, but dont count on it. I'll probably be too bizzy working on my car.

So lets start working on sloganz.

JO 753 2020 - looks like a fone number! I coud get that number and anybody coud call to make donationz and here pep toks.

Make America Great Agen, for realz this time! - assuming Trump divez the nation off a cliff in flamez. All hiz 2016 voterz woud be virtually obligated to vote for me to make up for their mistake.

Real ideaz for a better future - Maybe by then the GP will be aware that the simple minded sound bites and tokking points the media haz been feeding them for decadez are wut enabled Bush and Trump to fool them.

But nun uv themz blowing my skirt up. Anybody got a talent for sloganeering here?

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JO753

Wednesday, December 21, 2016 5:25 PM

Trump did a great thing alredy - he proovd that there are no rulez to getting elected Prezident uv the United States uv America.

Seriously, sumbudy applying for the pozition uv burger flipper at McDonaldz with Trumps rap sheet woud fail!

Going by the theory that this wuz a rebelion agenst the GoP az well az Washington, an independent coud conseivably hijack the DNC and win agenst a Trump 2nd term attempt. And if theyv alredy replased him with Pence, it woud be like a repeat uv the GoP primaryz.

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JO753

Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:04 PM

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, December 26, 2016 11:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Trump did a great thing alredy - he proovd that there are no rulez to getting elected Prezident uv the United States uv America.

http://www.nooalf.com

There are actually only 2 rules to being elected President of the USA.

1. You have to be an American Born Citizen.

2. You have to be at least 35 years old.

There are ZERO other pre-requisites for being President of the United States of America, outside of being voted for.

He is undoubtedly both.

Would you prefer the Career Politicians we've known our lifetime that have progressively boned us?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JO753

Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:07 AM

Yes. I am sure that Hillary woud hav dun her best for us. And I am sure Trump iz going to do wut he haz alwayz dun - grab wutever he can get away with.

Even the 2nd worst choise uv the GoP primaryz woud hav been better than Trump. (Ted Cruz)

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JO753

Monday, January 16, 2017 3:59 PM

Can I count on your support?

http://www.7532020.com/index.html

Yes? Kool! Spred the word.

No? In 6 months reconsider.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, January 16, 2017 4:24 PM

I'm sure Hillary would have done her best for us. Just like she did for all the Hatians.

Oh. That's right.... The Hatians didn't get any of the millions in donations that were given to the Clinton Foundation.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JO753

Tuesday, January 17, 2017 2:43 AM

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JO753

Saturday, January 21, 2017 8:24 PM

Added the 1st platform paje. http://www.7532020.com/JoB1.htm

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JO753

Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:15 AM

Now I'm up agenst Zuckerberg? That little scatterbrain nerd haz billionz$.

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JO753

Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:37 AM

Az uv 9:34 pm I am officially running for prez. Filed with the FEC.

Now... how to hijack the DNC?

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JO753

Wednesday, February 1, 2017 3:07 AM

Added more to the main paje. Added more pajez.

http://www.7532020.com/index.html

I personally gar on tee that JSF will not like it.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, February 1, 2017 3:34 AM

Your GIT tax, as you've laid it out, wouldn't work.

Most of the people who use guns for bad things never registered their guns and would never register their guns. I'd be willing to bet even if you could figure out who had them, most people who own them illegally wouldn't be able to afford a GIT tax anyhow. It would simply be another tax on law abiding middle class people.

I love the page though. Funny stuff.

BTW... a lot of the links don't work. Not sure if you knew that or not.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JO753

Wednesday, February 1, 2017 1:25 PM

They work for me, so I dont know wuts rong. Thanks for telling me.

The GIT by itself will not hav an immediate direct effect on illegal gunz. It will reduse proliferation, so over a long period, perhaps decadez, the saturation level will go down, making it progressivly more difficult and expensiv for the bad guyz to get gunz.

Plus, wen they do get arrested they will be fasing a big bill and tax evasion charjez.

I figure there will be alot uv surplus money jenerated by the system and it will be uzed to run a buy back program. That will definitely akselerate the reduction in illegal gunz az the ner'-do-wellz turn in their hardware and their associate's to hav money for drugz.

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JO753

Wednesday, February 1, 2017 4:16 PM

O! You were clicking on the gray buttonz!

I gess its not clear that they are dormant. Maybe I shoud add a little note.

I put them in before I had a paje for them to make it eazier to update when I make a new paje.

Next will be financial.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, February 2, 2017 2:22 PM

It seems to me to be something that would not only put an undue burden on law abiding citizens, but potentially make criminals of them down the road as well. Not for owning the guns, or even using them for self defense one day, but for tax evasion once they use them within their legal right to defend their house or their property.

I own a gun. I've owned it for over 8 years. I've never once fired it. In fact, I've never even loaded it and chances are the box of bullets might not even be good anymore. I've only cleaned it several times, and both times I made sure my brother who was in the military was there to supervise. I've lived in 2 states while owning that gun where there is no requirement to register a firearm. There are requirements to get registered for conceal and carry, but I do not carry it. Honestly, it scares me J0. I keep it in a safe and rarely think about it. (I did check to make sure I knew where the bullets were before election day though, just in case any rioting got out of hand and made it to my street).

What you're talking about would require MORE federal power. The power to tell the states that they all have to require firearms to be registered.

Also, good luck getting any money out of the criminals that use the guns. When I was brutally beaten and stabbed, it didn't matter that we knew who did it. When it came to getting money for paying for the hospital bill, both the police and the lawyer said it would be foolish to attempt to try to get any money from the person who stabbed me, and instead go after the homeowner because they had the homeowner's insurance that would pay. Unless you're talking about taking people's houses from them or their families to pay for these charges, you're not going to get any money from the criminals.

Nothing wrong with buy-back programs though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JO753

Thursday, February 2, 2017 8:48 PM

Brutally beaten and stabbed?!!!

Wen did that happen? Why?

The burden on law abiding sitizenz who own gunz iz due. The burden exists bekuz uv them putting money into the hobby.

Your ownership experiens iz typical and demonstrates the uselessness uv gunz. To you, all it iz iz a dedly risk waiting for an opportunity to injure or kill you.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, February 3, 2017 12:03 AM

I'm sure I talked about the beating here before. Thought maybe you read about it. It happened when I was 19 years old. Four guys beat the piss out of me. I didn't even know I was stabbed until I got into my car and I felt the seat was wet behind me. That was a fun night :)

Believe it or not, I was defending a woman's honor.

Don't go lumping me in with irresponsible gun owners. I have a healthy fear of it. I always treat it as if it were loaded, even though in 8 years I've never loaded it.

I've always intended to get proper training, and I would never even take it outside of my house until I did (except of course, when I was on the way to get said training). My brother and I have talked about going to the range for years but never gotten around to it. If I were irresponsible, I would go get my conceal and carry license now and start walking around with it. As of right now, it stays locked away in a safe, out of the reach of anyone. There is not a chance in hell that my niece could ever get her hands on it.

You want to change a gun law, now here's one I would agree with you on. I don't believe that you should be able to get a conceal and carry license without being able to pass a firearms safety exam and be able to prove a certain level of marksmanship in a live test.

As it is now, I meet the only three requirements to get it. I am old enough. I have lived in the state for over a year. I don't have a felony on my record.

I think that is ridiculous.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JO753

Monday, February 6, 2017 12:34 AM

At least you have a good attitude.

Altho the training will be worth it, it can give you a false sense uv confidens. the gun will still be just az much a risk.

Plenty uv storyz about bona fide experts shooting themselvez.

Eternal vijilens iz not a human karakteristic. We are extreemly inconsistent and reliably unreliable.

Just added the Financial paje: http://www.7532020.com/FiNaNsL.htm

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JO753

Thursday, February 9, 2017 3:22 AM

Micro posterz!

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JO753

Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:32 AM

Added the NASA and Pay & Work pajez last week.

I'm realy happy with how the SeReNITE font I made for us Browncoats looks on the site. I uze it in all the text subtitlez and sum uv the paje titlez.

Opened a Bank account for the campane ccommittee last week also. Now I haf to get massive donationz. Dont no anything about that.

I'll haf to check Wiki or barrow a book. 'How To Get Massive Donationz'.

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DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

There are actually only 2 rules to being elected President of the USA.

1. You have to be an American Born Citizen.

2. You have to be at least 35 years old.

There are ZERO other pre-requisites for being President of the United States of America, outside of being voted for.

He is undoubtedly both.

Would you prefer the Career Politicians we've known our lifetime that have progressively boned us?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Nah, there's another, you have to have spent a total of 14 years in the US

I suspect there are others for serving any US govt position that would include president as a subset that would exclude traitors, felons, etc. I doubt they would include the clinically insane among their prohibitions. 753 could still run, even if blocked from serving. No one has ever tested what happens if you win. McCain almost did, as the Canal Zone was technically Panama until the year after he was born.

I suspect Jo can run, but doesn't seem to have gotten enough support here, so I don't know where it's coming from.

JO753

Monday, February 27, 2017 3:07 PM

Another potential oponent iz John Hickenlooper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hickenlooper

Seemz like a reazonable guy, but he haz the same problem az everybody hoo lost to Trump: boring.

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JO753

Thursday, March 2, 2017 2:03 AM

The most obvious problem with Trumps so-called address to Congress (really he wuz just doing another publisity stunt, stealing a billion or 2 from prime time TV revenue) iz how to pay for it all.

Remember how we ended up in 2008? EXACTLY the same drunken sailor financial polisyz uv the Bush administration!

Well, not exactly. Same type, but much bigger & bolder.

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THGRRI

Thursday, March 2, 2017 3:02 AM

It hits 63 in Antarctica. Global Warming is a problem Trump denies and I have a problem with that.

Antarctica hits record high temperature at balmy 63.5°F

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-antarctica-temperatures-idUSKBN1684I
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JO753

Thursday, March 2, 2017 3:41 AM

I'm alredy thinking up wayz to convert my car to a boat. Pontoonz, props, rudderz...

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JO753

Thursday, March 2, 2017 3:43 AM

Youd expect that even a moron woud be able to find Wall Street experts who didnt work for Goldman Sachs.

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THGRRI

Thursday, March 2, 2017 4:15 AM

Great video because it shows Trump the liar clear as a bell. I'm becoming quite the fan jo753

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:

Youd expect that even a moron woud be able to find Wall Street experts who didnt work for Goldman Sachs.

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JO753

Friday, March 3, 2017 10:30 AM

Thanks. Now hurry up & get to work! I may not hav 4 yirz to campane after all!

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/28/petition-scotus-seeking-electio
n-nullification-distributed-justices.html

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 4, 2017 4:36 AM

That's rich.

Quote:
“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion.”

Obama handed the reins of the internet to the UN and was allowing hundreds of thousands of battle-aged Muslim men from countries we were bombing into our borders with open arms.

I still have yet to see any proof that any of this Russian stuff isn't just another attempt of the losing side to keep the Democrats in power.

Maybe if I didn't see so much "Fuck Trump" protesting and rioting and burning shit to the ground the first few weeks after the election it might be a little more believable. Say what you will about Republicans, but there wasn't anybody going around burning and looting and saying "Fuck Obama" the last 2 election cycles.

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Thanks. Now hurry up & get to work! I may not hav 4 yirz to campane after all!

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/28/petition-scotus-seeking-electio
n-nullification-distributed-justices.html

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Do Right, Be Right. :)

SOCKPUPPET

Saturday, March 4, 2017 6:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I still have yet to see any proof that any of this Russian stuff isn't just another attempt of the losing side to keep the Democrats in power.

And we have a winner

JO753

Thursday, March 9, 2017 9:24 AM

Added a counter yesterday. Alwayz wanted a counter on my sites, but never got any help frum the hosting servisez.

Found out that its a 3rd party free servis!

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JO753

Sunday, March 12, 2017 7:55 PM

Got the R&D paje up a little wile ago.

http://www.7532020.com/RESRC.htm

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THGRRI

Sunday, March 12, 2017 8:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SOCKPUPPET/DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I still have yet to see any proof that any of this Russian stuff isn't just another attempt of the losing side to keep the Democrats in power.

And we have a winner

Not surprised at this post dreamtrove/sockpuppet. Nope, not surprised at all. Just can't help yourself can you.

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SIGNYM

Monday, March 13, 2017 12:50 AM

JO for Prezident? JO, you're a nice guy but you're even less qualified than Trump.

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JO753

Monday, March 13, 2017 12:29 PM

Did you read anything on the site?

The thing I rarely see in any prezidential candidate iz imajination. No orijinal ideaz, no injeneus solutionz to big problemz.

Even Obama seemz spars on orijinality. He wuz big on continuity, even wen it wuz obvious (at least to me) that patching up an existing system woud only prolong problemz bilt into the foundation.

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JO753

Monday, March 13, 2017 5:17 PM

Rachel Maddow iz irritating. But, she gets good rating, so Fox reazoned that it must be the irritation thats working, so they found the most irritating woman in America and gave her a show:

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DREAMTROVE

Monday, March 13, 2017 6:09 PM

Most irritating? What an invitation.

JO753

Monday, March 13, 2017 8:31 PM

Wu? You hav another contender in mind?

Just added another How Stoopid Are We post.
https://howstupidarewe.blog/2017/03/13/its-big-it-stinks/#more-690

Altho its not strictly about stoopidity, the fact that our idiotic election system, GoP jerrymandering and gullible voterz conspired to get us in this situation mite qualify az the biggest goof up in history if we arent lucky.

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SOCKPUPPET

Tuesday, March 14, 2017 2:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by G:

OMG - we're approaching Hunger Games fake-iness. Live car crash involving a dumpster fire.

If Hillary is Coin, and Trump is Snow, than Maddow still ain't no Mockingjay

SOCKPUPPET

Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
Quote:
Originally posted by SOCKPUPPET:
Quote:
Originally posted by G:

OMG - we're approaching Hunger Games fake-iness. Live car crash involving a dumpster fire.

If Hillary is Coin, and Trump is Snow, than Maddow still ain't no Mockingjay

I was thinking more Effie Trinket and Ceasar Flickerman fake.

Clearly Colbert is Flickerman (how fitting)

Unfortunately, he's also Effie Trinket

I vote Megyn Kelly as the new Effie Trinket

Pardon the cheesy photoshop. What's a google coming to when there's not a ready made Kelly Trinket shop?

JO753

Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:47 AM

Thanks for reminding me! I'v only seen the 1st Hunger Gamez. Got sum catching up to do.

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Tuesday, March 14, 2017 12:27 PM

A little stratejic advise:

If youv ever felt that you hav no voise in the gummit, that you will be ignored no matter how lowly the elected official you are emailing or yelling at from a crowd uv similarly disgruntled sitizenz, nowz your chans.

On the off chans that I do get on the ballot and then win, I may remember sumthing youv ritten here and realize that its correct, the rite solution, a good idea, or sumthing.

I hav the same title thred going in several other forumz. I'm hoping to inspire and collect good ideaz from smart peepl.

If I win, I garrantee that I'm not going to hav a bunch uv free time to idle away type-yammering in forumz, so read my site and comment now.

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JO753

Friday, March 17, 2017 1:04 PM

Continued from the Iz Trump Nuts topic:

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
HEY JO! I didn't want to have this discussion get lost in the shuffle! Right now this is one of the few intelligent ones going.

I think all the memberz hav sumthing intellijent to say. Not everybody all the time and not uv equal regularity, but at least on occasion even JSF haz a good point.

Quote:
By topic:

THE TPP/TTIP...
A nation relinquishing control over its internal policies (where they conflict with "usual and expected profits" ... which is pretty much everywhere) to a private tribunal of transnational corporations. That's a one-way step. Now, what kind of leader (President or Prime Minister) would sign such a deal except a traitor? This is so much bigger than Trump versus Hillary. The transnationals will, for sure, attempt to negotiate something similar in the future, whether in a series of "bilateral" deals (a la Trump) or as part of a whole new multi-party package. All new trade deals need to be examined closely, no matter who is President.

I agree. Az bad az goverments are, corporationz are naturally worse. Look at wut the oil companyz are doing in South America! They alwayz get the local goverment in on the deal, so wutever violationz there may be agenst anything in a trade deal woud be ignored anyway. The only time anybody raizez a stink iz wen they arent getting their cut.

And its not like the US iz immune to getting pooped on, the BP spill, for example. I think Obama missed a big political opportunity with that. He coud hav played up Chaney'z role in the mess and pressured the other branchez uv gummit to go along with booting BP out uv the country, maybe even fined Chaney'z company into oblivion.

That woud hav made him so pop that the midtermz woud hav gon Dem BIG TIME!

The argument that it woud destroy jobz woud hav been expozed az bad lojik az the other companyz eagerly rushed into fill the void. Plus, they woud be put on notis that sloppy & risky enviremental polisyz are a deadly risk to them, not just ducks & fish.

I'm bizzy with other stuff, so haf to chop your transfered post into seperate replyz.

Unansrd stuff:

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The simpl way iz to require all payroll recordz to be submitted along with their inkum tax filingz. Naturally, if they are dealing with forin vendorz, it gets much more complicated.- JO

Actually, it gets impossible. The vendors in this market (Walmart, The Gap, etc) simply "subcontract" to another company in another nation, and let THEM do the exploiting. It's called "the gig economy", haven't you heard? Everyone is paid piecework.- SIGNY

Ye, I no how it wrks. But not every company or even every industry iz able to do that and thoze that can cant do it 100%. So, wen Jimmy Lee in Shen Qua iz making 10x wut hiz nayborz are, it starts to spred. Pretty soon, even the novelty fake dog doo factory haz to start paying more to keep employeez.- JO

What you are talking about is a regulatory requirement: make payroll receipts and tax filings a necessary submission. Let's assume that extends to subcontractors and sub-subcontractors and down the the individual who has been "scraped off" the wage system and is working as a sub-sub-subcontractor him/herself. THEY have to submit their income statements, too!

Hey, I work in a regulatory agency, and we demand a lot of paperwork, and yet all of that paperwork has not prevented some terrible environmental crimes. So you need actual inspectors ... people going to the shops and homes to examine their standard of living etc to make sure that the paperwork is correct. And then, assuming you find a violation, you still need to have a hearing ... at which point the vendor will devolve responsibility to those below* ... and then assign a penalty. What's the penalty?

*the problem of "shared responsibility" where each party is guilty only of a small part of ev

DREAMTROVE

Friday, March 17, 2017 8:50 PM

Hmm. Look at what governments are doing in south america. cutting down rainforests and exterminating the indigenous population. Poeple say corporations start wars, but I don't see a lot of corporate employees being marched to the front lines by their corporation.

THGRRI

Friday, March 17, 2017 9:02 PM

Something for you to read sockpuppet/dreamtrove

Social Murder

corporate power is one of the strongest forces shaping our world. More than half of the top 100 economic entities today are private corporations. With their immense size comes commensurate influence, to the point where corporations are able to wreak social and environmental destruction with few serious consequences. Yet, amazingly, this subject is essentially absent from the study of economics.

http://arpbooks.org/books/detail/social-murder/

It's amazing you posted what you did without acknowledging the cuts to the EPA past and present. Cuts done at the behest of corporations. Too many here continually post without regard for the facts.

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DREAMTROVE

Saturday, March 18, 2017 4:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Something for you to read sockpuppet/dreamtrove

Social Murder

corporate power is one of the strongest forces shaping our world. More than half of the top 100 economic entities today are private corporations. With their immense size comes commensurate influence, to the point where corporations are able to wreak social and environmental destruction with few serious consequences. Yet, amazingly, this subject is essentially absent from the study of economics.

http://arpbooks.org/books/detail/social-murder/

It's amazing you posted what you did without acknowledging the cuts to the EPA past and present. Cuts done at the behest of corporations. Too many here continually post without regard for the facts.

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That's more the spirit!

And something for you to read, Si Shen:

https://collateralmurder.wikileaks.org/

Here's another. If you want to understand liberal economic theory, I recommend GK Chesterton, Hillaire Belloc and FA Hayek. Belloc's Servile State is a good place to start. Basically starting in 1912 he forecasts the 20th century economics from the point of view of what will happen when the govt. gets involved.

ps. yes, i'm familiar with the EPA. My uncle works there. Has for many years. It's a captured agency. Meaning it's run by the oil companies. Corporations aren't perfect, sure. However, I can start one tomorrow. Watch what happens if you try to go out and start a government.

Govts. are mutli-trillion dollar entities, which got their money through violence. A corporation doesn't have any money we didn't willing give it, unless a govt. did. At that point, is it really a corporation and a govt, or has the merged entity become something else?

SIGNYM

Saturday, March 18, 2017 8:44 PM

Well, that's better JO!

The other thread was kinda noisy!

I really like your approach of running for President. Instead of focusing on Trump versus Hillary or Democrats versus Republicans ... limited choices, each with downsides .... you get to post your best solutions to the problems that you see.

So I'm looking forward to discussing your platform with you and ... I hope others throw their hat in the ring too.

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JO753

Sunday, March 19, 2017 3:27 AM

Thats the idea.

Peepl hav forgotten that America started with ideaz. The founderz had experiens with how thingz can go rong and came up with ideaz to hopefully prevent the same failurez.

Now we hav experiens with how thingz can go rong with their creation.

Quote:
Actually, it gets impossible. The vendors in this market (Walmart, The Gap, etc) simply "subcontract" to another company in another nation, and let THEM do the exploiting. It's called "the gig economy", haven't you heard? Everyone is paid piecework.- SIGNY

Thats been going on forever. I worked with a guy who had worked at a tool forj - hammerz, renchez, plierz, etc. All piece work. Then they got a raw deal contract from Searz to make Craftsman stuff and went bankrupt and bought by a crony uv a Searz exec. That wuz SOP.

Quote:
Hey, I work in a regulatory agency, and we demand a lot of paperwork, and yet all of that paperwork has not prevented some terrible environmental crimes. So you need actual inspectors ... people going to the shops and homes to examine their standard of living etc to make sure that the paperwork is correct. And then, assuming you find a violation, you still need to have a hearing ... at which point the vendor will devolve responsibility to those below* ... and then assign a penalty. What's the penalty?

Wut ajensy?

Quote:
the problem of "shared responsibility" where each party is guilty only of a small part of evil-doing. It makes participation much easier on the conscience of the individuals and much harder to prove guilt.

A fundamental polisy stratejy iz to link the cost uv any problemz directly to thoze profiting. Whoever iz making money on sumthing gets to pay their share uv cleaning up messez, paying medical billz for workerz who get sick or injured.

So, lets say a Chineze subcontractor haz been dumping uzed solvent in a river. If anybody findz out EVER, the American company gets to pay to clean it up, plus wutever damaj it haz cauzed. They woud be open to lawsuits frum canser victimz or their surviving family. The damaj to the ecosystem woud be assessed a $ value. No time limit. No bankruptsy protection.

If the company goez out uv biz befor the crime gets discovered, the executivez who were in charj wenever it happened get to pay. Anybody who knew and didnt tell, anybody who tried to cover it up. Even workerz who were just following orderz.

A CEO woud haf to be seriously stoopid to think saving 100$ per barrel iz worth skipping proper disposal/recovery if it coud come back and bite him in the ass in 5, 10, 20, 50 yirz.

A smart CEO woud hire inspectorz to monitor subcontractorz and offer substantial rewardz for wisl blowerz.

If anybody complainz that they cant get their stuff made cheap enuf bekuz uv this, thats just too bad, kuz nobody can. Thered be no selling non-compliant products in this country. The prise uv the products goez up to wut it really costs!

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SIGNYM

Sunday, March 19, 2017 4:29 AM

Quote:
Peepl hav forgotten that America started with ideaz. The founderz had experiens with how thingz can go rong and came up with ideaz to hopefully prevent the same failurez.

Now we hav experiens with how thingz can go rong with their creation.

100% agreement here!

Quote:
Actually, it gets impossible. The vendors in this market (Walmart, The Gap, etc) simply "subcontract" to another company in another nation, and let THEM do the exploiting. It's called "the gig economy", haven't you heard? Everyone is paid piecework.- SIGNY

Thats been going on forever. I worked with a guy who had worked at a tool forj - hammerz, renchez, plierz, etc. All piece work. Then they got a raw deal contract from Searz to make Craftsman stuff and went bankrupt and bought by a crony uv a Searz exec. That wuz SOP.- JO

Sucks, doesn't it?

Quote:
Hey, I work in a regulatory agency, and we demand a lot of paperwork, and yet all of that paperwork has not prevented some terrible environmental crimes. So you need actual inspectors ... people going to the shops and homes to examine their standard of living etc to make sure that the paperwork is correct. And then, assuming you find a violation, you still need to have a hearing ... at which point the vendor will devolve responsibility to those below* ... and then assign a penalty. What's the penalty?- SIGNY

Wut ajensy? -JO

I prefer not to say. It's Southern CA environmental regulatory agency.

Quote:
the problem of "shared responsibility" where each party is guilty only of a small part of evil-doing. It makes participation much easier on the conscience of the individuals and much harder to prove guilt.- SIGNY

A fundamental polisy stratejy iz to link the cost uv any problemz directly to thoze profiting. Whoever iz making money on sumthing gets to pay their share uv cleaning up messez, paying medical billz for workerz who get sick or injured.

So, lets say a Chineze subcontractor haz been dumping uzed solvent in a river. If anybody findz out EVER, the American company gets to pay to clean it up, plus wutever damaj it haz cauzed. They woud be open to lawsuits frum canser victimz or their surviving family. The damaj to the ecosystem woud be assessed a $ value. No time limit. No bankruptsy protection.

If the company goez out uv biz befor the crime gets discovered, the executivez who were in charj wenever it happened get to pay. Anybody who knew and didnt tell, anybody who tried to cover it up. Even workerz who were just following orderz.

A CEO woud haf to be seriously stoopid to think saving 100$ per barrel iz worth skipping proper disposal/recovery if it coud come back and bite him in the ass in 5, 10, 20, 50 yirz.

A smart CEO woud hire inspectorz to monitor subcontractorz and offer substantial rewardz for wisl blowerz.

If anybody complainz that they cant get their stuff made cheap enuf bekuz uv this, thats just too bad, kuz nobody can. Thered be no selling non-compliant products in this country. The prise uv the products goez up to wut it really costs! - JO

Interesting. You plan sounds very much like the Superfund/ RCRA policy ... entities are held responsible for their toxic waste in perpetuity. When toxic sites are discovered, its history is evaluated and all still-existing companies are held responsible for the cleanup cost. Unfortunately, many sites have been contaminated by companies that are no longer in existence, don't even have successor companies (i.e. were never bought out, so liability was never transfered) and since the remaining companies are indivisibly responsible, they spend a lot of THEIR money on lawyers, in court. That is the failure of Superfund: too much $$ spent on lawyers, not enough on cleanup. Justice delayed really IS justice denied.

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THGRRI

Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:15 AM

That's funny, you have to have a country before you can start a government. I'm afraid this one is taken.

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Something for you to read sockpuppet/dreamtrove

Social Murder

corporate power is one of the strongest forces shaping our world. More than half of the top 100 economic entities today are private corporations. With their immense size comes commensurate influence, to the point where corporations are able to wreak social and environmental destruction with few serious consequences. Yet, amazingly, this subject is essentially absent from the study of economics.

http://arpbooks.org/books/detail/social-murder/

It's amazing you posted what you did without acknowledging the cuts to the EPA past and present. Cuts done at the behest of corporations. Too many here continually post without regard for the facts.

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That's more the spirit!

And something for you to read, Si Shen:

https://collateralmurder.wikileaks.org/

Here's another. If you want to understand liberal economic theory, I recommend GK Chesterton, Hillaire Belloc and FA Hayek. Belloc's Servile State is a good place to start. Basically starting in 1912 he forecasts the 20th century economics from the point of view of what will happen when the govt. gets involved.

ps. yes, i'm familiar with the EPA. My uncle works there. Has for many years. It's a captured agency. Meaning it's run by the oil companies. Corporations aren't perfect, sure. However, I can start one tomorrow. Watch what happens if you try to go out and start a government.

Govts. are mutli-trillion dollar entities, which got their money through violence. A corporation doesn't have any money we didn't willing give it, unless a govt. did. At that point, is it really a corporation and a govt, or has the merged entity become something else?

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JO753

Sunday, March 19, 2017 12:13 PM

Quote:
So being a nation of laws instead of a "giant kleptocracy" explains why we have been destroying and exploiting nations for years and why the system that WE stand behind- the IMF, the World Bank, and Free Enterprise has created a situation where 8 people own more than the bottom 50% of the world, and we have the largest wealth gap .... ever? Oh, you mean THAT "nation of laws"??? Hmmm.... maybe there's something wrong with our laws, then, because they don't seem to be preventing kleptocracy very well.

Our military and capitalists hav been running amok from the beginning, here and abroad. A good reazon to elect candidates who arent assclownz.

Bush Jr. and hiz puppetmaster were all about helping their own oil interests. Remember that spase probe he canseld soon after taking offis?
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-03/lost-satellite

But, even tho our gummit iznt doing a great job uv redusing the wealth gap, many other nationz are worse.

Vladimir Putin iz probably the richest man in the world and I'v read that Moscow haz the highest consentration uv billionairez. There are billionairez in dirt poor south America, China, Africa, India, Pakistan.

Hard to tell the differens between capitalizm and kleptomania.

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JO753

Sunday, March 19, 2017 12:28 PM

Speaking uv assclownz vs DSCOVR:
https://qz.com/934141/donald-trump-wants-to-shut-off-dscovr-the-orbiti
ng-space-camera-that-monitors-climate-change/

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SIGNYM

Sunday, March 19, 2017 12:32 PM

Trump is ludicrous about some things. Especially the environment. You won't hear any arguments from me on those issues!

You have some misconceptions about the world which a little internet-searching would easily dispel.

The highest number, in absolute terms, of billionaires is in the USA at 536 (according to Wikipedia). The NEXT highest number is in China, at 251, but since China has at about three times our population their per-capita is 1/6 of ours.

After that, Germany is tied with the UK, then India, then Russia at 77. (Since the Russian population is about 1/3 of ours you can calculate the per-capita yourself). The richest Russian man - according to Wikipedia - is Vladimir Potanin, NOT Vladimir Putin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_the_number_of_billi
onaires

Russia's skewed wealth distribution looks to be a leftover from it's "shock treatment" by the Chicago School of Business. China ... well, China claims it's socialist but it's not. It's a long story.

Wealth inequality is measured by the GINI coefficient or GINI Index. The higher the index, the higher the inequality. It's difficult to get a GINI index especially since it changes year-by-year, but it can be used to approximately rank nations against each other. Slovenia, Norway, Belarus, and Denmark are low. The USA is in the middle of the pack but worse than Morocco, Turkey, and Vietnam and only slightly better than Russia. The Comoros, South Africa, and Namibia are the worst. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality

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SIGNYM

Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:27 PM

Although both rich and poor nations have more-equal GINIs, the poorest nations tend to have very unequal GINIs.

A high GINI index is a symptom of corruption. It develops when the wealthy have gained complete control of law, bureaucracy, and internal security to force an unequal wealth distribution. Overall, it is also a harbinger of economic deterioration, since vast inequality and corruption cause economic decline.

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SIGNYM

Sunday, March 19, 2017 11:31 PM

Maybe I'll add $0.02: Possibly it's not the absolute GINI coefficient that's indicative, but the direction it's going in (up or down).

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JO753

Monday, March 20, 2017 12:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You have some misconceptions about the world which a little internet-searching would easily dispel...The richest Russian man - according to Wikipedia - is Vladimir Potanin, NOT Vladimir Putin.

http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/

Next to impossible to pin down a number, but 'the peepl in the no' will immediately name Putin if asked hooz the richest.

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6STRINGJOKER

Monday, March 20, 2017 1:18 AM

You can keep posting Rachel J0, but know that nobody is actually watching any of the videos.

Got that same video info from anybody else?

1KIKI

Monday, March 20, 2017 1:23 AM

Interesting that the US and Russia have the same GINI, while India has a better GINI than both.

Originally posted by G:
I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago.

1KIKI

Monday, March 20, 2017 1:27 AM

OK JO

Since you're on the stump, I have two questions for you -

1) what are you going to do about global warming, and
2) what are you going to do about the total (public and private) US debt?

Originally posted by G:
I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago.

SIGNYM

Monday, March 20, 2017 1:57 AM

Quote:
Next to impossible to pin down a number, but 'the peepl in the no' will immediately name Putin if asked hooz the richest. - JO

I thought you said you were all about being intelligent and using your imagination, and yet here you are, relying on proven liars for your info?

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JO753

Monday, March 20, 2017 4:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:

1) what are you going to do about global warming,

More subsidiez for solar and wind power, especially R&D. Then to bring CO2 levelz back down, develop wayz to take it out uv the atmosfere and turn it into useful products. Same with methane and other greenhouse gassez.

This iz tek we are going to need anyway wen we start teraforming planets.

Quote:
2) what are you going to do about the total (public and private) US debt?

I dont no enuf about it yet, but my jeneral idea that money making money needz to be restricted will be the basis uv all spesific planz.

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JO753

Monday, March 20, 2017 5:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
You can keep posting Rachel J0, but know that nobody is actually watching any of the videos.

Got that same video info from anybody else?

Sorry, no. She'z leading on this. You can get the basic info elsewhere, usually (unless its behind a pay wall), but you'd spend much more time than it takes her to repeat everything a dozen timez. Her team iz doing ALOT uv prep and assembly, so its worth your time.

You develop a tolerans for her eventually. The great thing about watching her show online iz that its about 50% shorter without the commercialz!

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JO753

Monday, March 20, 2017 5:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I thought you said you were all about being intelligent and using your imagination, and yet here you are, relying on proven liars for your info?

Unless you hav a crystal ball or GODz fone number, you are in the same boat az me - you get all your info from soursez that are not 100% onest andor correct.

The best any uv us can do (aside from being an insider on a story) iz to juj stuff on its internal lojik, then its relation to known facts, the motivz uv the subjects and soursez, and track record uv accurasy uv the soursez we hav.

A good stratejy that haz been lost by the entire rite wing iz to dump a sours after a fairly low number (rate) uv failurez. This iz how Fox and its ilk hav bekum so seksesful.

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6STRINGJOKER

Monday, March 20, 2017 6:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
You can keep posting Rachel J0, but know that nobody is actually watching any of the videos.

Got that same video info from anybody else?

Sorry, no. She'z leading on this. You can get the basic info elsewhere, usually (unless its behind a pay wall), but you'd spend much more time than it takes her to repeat everything a dozen timez. Her team iz doing ALOT uv prep and assembly, so its worth your time.

You develop a tolerans for her eventually. The great thing about watching her show online iz that its about 50% shorter without the commercialz!

I haven't watched a commercial outside of the Superbowl in 10 years J0.

I just can't watch Rachel. She's in that special category of nails on a chalkboard for me that she shares only with Seth Meyers. I'd love to see them fight each other in some UFC exhibition match and knock those smug looks off each other's faces.

Too bad Celebrity Death Match isn't around anymore. That would be fun.

JO753

Monday, March 20, 2017 9:23 PM

You can watch Lawrens O'Donald and otherz, but he'z not doing an in depth prezentation.

Or just wait for the final tally. Or wait for the book! Not a bad idea, but its like missing the big story wen its happening. You get a nise tidy complete story, but its stale by then.

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SIGNYM

Monday, March 20, 2017 9:28 PM

Quote:
Next to impossible to pin down a number, but 'the peepl in the no' will immediately name Putin if asked hooz the richest. - JO

But JO, you're relying on "people in the know" ... which are WHO, exactly?

Our spooks? Our politicians? Our mainstream media? ... NONE of whom have a history of telling the truth? And all of whom seem to have in interest in demonizing Russia, Putin, and Trump?

On what evidence do they base this allegation? Bank records? Lifestyle? Confessions of people who have bribed Putin? Anyway, bring some EVIDENCE to the board and you'll be taken a lot more seriously.

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In the meantime, back to your platform!

Your idea of holding domestic vendors responsible for the pollution and exploitation by foreign manufacturers needs further explanation. Yes, I see how that might work logically, but I have a problem understanding how that would work in a practical sense.

For example, you seem to be counting on a somewhat simple link between vendors (here) and manufacturers (there) to be able to assign responsibility and then mandate higher wages or require improved pollution controls or better working conditions (or what-have-you) and then count on market forces to boost pay for workers outside of that industry.

But it seems to me that the only thing that would do is encourage companies to sub-contract even further, to split production into finer and finer layers to where responsibility is impossible to assign. The only companies that subcontracting might not work well for would be those that REQUIRE large technology-based production (you can't make chips and hard drives in your garage) maybe Foxconn (Apple's main producer) or Intel or Agilent. A limited number of industries. Even then, I can imagine them creating a legal fiction: separate companies between one operation and the other even while on the same campus or in the same building.

But the doodads and geegaws ... housewares, milk, sneakers, leather goods, toothpaste, clothes, farmed shrimp etc. ... can be made by small operations which can be sub-sub-sub contracted into invisibility.

And the fact that there would only be a limited number of jobs under our purview might create a rush (in China for example) to fill those positions, but would not spread to other industries because those conditions would not exist for the vast majority of manufacturers.

The problem is, it is in EVERY business-owner's interest to evade and avoid the regulations that you suggest, from Walmart down to the shrimp-farmer on his small paddy. You need a system that is self-sustaining. The level of investigation required to make it work, and be resistant to bribes, incompetence, lack of insight etc. by the investigators would be unsupportable. IMHO. Let me know what you think.

BTW, FWIW my experience with Chinese-made scientific instruments is that their quality control sucks.

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THGRRI

Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:15 AM

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Originally posted by JO753:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I thought you said you were all about being intelligent and using your imagination, and yet here you are, relying on proven liars for your info?

Unless you hav a crystal ball or GODz fone number, you are in the same boat az me - you get all your info from soursez that are not 100% onest andor correct.

The best any uv us can do (aside from being an insider on a story) iz to juj stuff on its internal lojik, then its relation to known facts, the motivz uv the subjects and soursez, and track record uv accurasy uv the soursez we hav.

A good stratejy that haz been lost by the entire rite wing iz to dump a sours after a fairly low number (rate) uv failurez. This iz how Fox and its ilk hav bekum so seksesful.

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Liking your honesty JO 753, you got my vote.

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SIG says I'm a deep state troll.

oh me, oh my.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:15 AM

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When you ignore the importance of consumers in the equation you (and poor, sad! broken Kiki) only show your ignorance.-

Consumers flock to Walmart, despite the fact that it sells cheap Chinese junk and pays such poor wages that it directs its employees towards food stamps.

When you ignore the importance of reality in the equation, you (and poor moronic! THUGR) only show your ignorance.

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:33 AM

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Yes! And? Keep thinking... try closing the circle... you can do it. It might help if you think of yourself as Walmart.
Hint: it's not "despite" it's "because."

Which is exactly what I've been saying. See? Right here:

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The problem is, it is in EVERY business-owner's interest to evade and avoid the regulations that you suggest, from Walmart down to the shrimp-farmer on his small paddy.

So I'm glad you agree! Also, explains why JO's approach is doomed to fail.

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:22 PM

Anyway JO, unless there's something about your plan that I don't understand, this company-by-company regulatory approach - especially across borders- doesn't seem very feasible.

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JO753

Tuesday, March 21, 2017 4:52 PM

Thanks THGGRI. I got you and G on board now. Momentum iz bilding!

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:But JO, you're relying on "people in the know" ... which are WHO, exactly?

Our spooks? Our politicians? Our mainstream media? ... NONE of whom have a history of telling the truth? And all of whom seem to have in interest in demonizing Russia, Putin, and Trump?

Dont need to galvanize zinc. Putin iz a demon, thus it iz not demonizing, it iz identifying.

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On what evidence do they base this allegation?

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JO753

Tuesday, March 21, 2017 5:44 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
In the meantime, back to your platform!

...But it seems to me that the only thing that would do is encourage companies to sub-contract even further, to split production into finer and finer layers to where responsibility is impossible to assign.

The influens we can hav on forin companyz iz mostly financial. We haf to make it more profitabl to play by the rulez.

It will alwayz be cheaper to cheat workerz in the short run. It will alwayz be tempting to dump polutants. It will alwayz seem expedient to bribe thoze who are suppoze to be monitoring you.

The goverment haz to make the penaltyz scary enuf to make it not worth the risk. It haz to hav a credible enforsment structure.

The way to do it iz to set up a new ajensy andor bolster existing ajensyz and then actually punish an offender. If the offending company survivez the punishment, for sure they will not offend agen and their competitorz will get the messaj also.

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...Even then, I can imagine them creating a legal fiction: separate companies between one operation and the other even while on the same campus or in the same building.

How woud that help them? If a midnite dump uv toxic waste iz found and trased to an iFone component factory, it duznt matter how many layerz uv subcontractorz there are - Apple gets a crippling bill. Then if it iz found that the workerz there were virtual slavez, suddenly there are a bunch uv rich peepl in a little Chineze villij. And if its determined that sumbudy at Apple wuz intentionally involved, its slammer time!

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And the fact that there would only be a limited number of jobs under our purview might create a rush (in China for example) to fill those positions, but would not spread to other industries because those conditions would not exist for the vast majority of manufacturers.

Incorrect. Money spredz wen its given to poor peepl. They buy stuff. They giv gifts to there family & frendz. A man who gets a job at the GM factory at 10x wut he wuz making befor duznt need hiz wife & kidz to work for rise anymore.

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...You need a system that is self-sustaining. The level of investigation required to make it work, and be resistant to bribes, incompetence, lack of insight etc. by the investigators would be unsupportable.

Like I sed befor, its not possibl to stop all the badness all the time.
But it iz possibl to reduse it. Even tho trade agreements arent popular, they can be uzed to get forin goverments to help weed out offenderz.

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my experience with Chinese-made scientific instruments is that their quality control sucks.

Therez still lots uv junk kuming out uv China, but they are following the same path az Japan - start out being the cheap alternativ to grab market share, then start thinking about quality. You can get good Chineze stuff, but its not much cheaper than the name brand stuff. Very often it iz the name brand stuff.

I hav several caliperz from China. Sum are OK, but obviously not on the level uv Starret or Brown & Sharp. I hav wun thats 16 yirz old that wuz only 16$ (a gift frum a frend) that still works perfectly - better than my Starrets! It duznt even hav a brand name on it. Gotta giv credit when its due, but to hoo?!

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JO753

Tuesday, March 21, 2017 5:58 PM

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Originally posted by G:
When you ignore the importance of consumers in the equation you (and poor, sad! broken Kiki) only show your ignorance.

That remindz me uv sumthing my brother sed about the constant Chineze bashing. (job stealing, currensy manipulating, product dumping, going to rek our economy) "They got dollarz that coud be worthless. I got lots uv stuff I can uze."

We'v been getting a free ride on the backs uv forin poor peepl forever. Thats being replased by a free ride on the backs uv tireless machinez.

The problem for us nonrich peeps iz that the rich are taking most uv the wealth being manufactured by the machinez - the money that woud hav gon to pay workerz.

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JO753

Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:53 PM

Even if you cant stand Rachel Maddow you NEED to watch this wun:
(and soon, kuz they tend to only let theze stay up for a day or 2)
(Edited out the ded link)
Herez a direct link to MSNBC Maddow show clips:
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/russian-paid-manafort-million
s-to-help-putin-influence-us-ap-904401987993?cid=eml_mra_20170323

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JO753

Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:35 AM

MSNBC also puts out a text version uv sum RM storyz.

This wun iz about Paul Manafort: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-former-campaign-chair-w
orked-benefit-putins-government?cid=eml_mra_20170322

Aside frum providing another box uv nailz to drive into Trumps coffin, it givez you sum idea uv the money being poured into this campane.

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JO753

Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:18 AM

Had an idea for a comic today, but I dont hav time to make it.

It woud be a side view uv a chess game in progress, showing the table its being played on, the playerz and 'otherz prezent'.

On the left, a doddering old Uncle Sam, hiz American Flag suit looking very shabby. He will look confuzed, and not paying much attention to the game.

On the rite, Vladimir Putin, looking not merely confident, but like he'z wondering how this can be so eazy. (getting this 'look' iz probably beyond my skill level)

In the back ground, sitting on the table are Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnel. It woud be their hedz on baby bodyz wearing diaperz. They are scribbling on paper with crayonz making a mess. Not only are they not paying any attention to the game, they dont even know how to play.

Further down the table will be more babyz playing. Maybe I coud work in sum ants on the ground at the sidez. Theyd be the Democrats, unable to reach the table.

Donald Trump will be the king on Uncle Sam'z side and all the other piesez will be hiz cabinet picks. The odd thing iz, they are the same color az the piesez on Putin'z side uv the board.

An examination uv the game will reveal that its nearly over.

Maybe I woud hav made it 2 panelz. In the 2nd, Putin woud be saying "Checkmate" and the babyz woud be crying "Not fair!" "Chess? Wuts that?" "I thot we were playing checkerz!" and other such lameness. The point iz that by the time any action iz taken to stop Trump, the game may be over, comrad!

Anybody want to do sum drawing? Youre free to take this idea and run with it!

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JO753

Thursday, March 23, 2017 5:47 PM

You only need to watch 23 minits uv this kuz the rest iz just replaying the same thing from the beginning.
(edited out the ded youtube link)

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6STRINGJOKER

Thursday, March 23, 2017 6:05 PM

Good idea J0. My only suggestion is when you're using the whole "everyone is Putin's color" on the chess board, you really should find a way to work race into the joke too. Probably something about how there are no black people or Muslims in Moscow. Seems a shame to waste such an obvious opportunity...

JO753

Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:11 PM

Great idea! Putin coud be drinking a Black Russian!

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DREAMTROVE

Friday, March 24, 2017 1:39 AM

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Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Good idea J0. My only suggestion is when you're using the whole "everyone is Putin's color" on the chess board, you really should find a way to work race into the joke too. Probably something about how there are no black people or Muslims in Moscow. Seems a shame to waste such an obvious opportunity...

6,

There are a lot of muslims in moscow, about 20% of the population. It's been that way since the tsar. A large portion of the of southern russia was conquered by the ottomans in the middle ages, and then taken back by the tsar, who then took a large slice of central asia as well, giving russia 1/2 of europe's muslim population. The only blacks would be american fellow traveler defectors.

Jo, I so can't stand rachael maddow that i have trouble watching, but the video doesn't come up anyway. text link?

JO753

Friday, March 24, 2017 2:59 AM

Sorry about that, Dreamtrove.

I hav found that you can read the crawl at the bottom wen she'z repeating to help make it less excruciating.

They put the Youtubez up for a day or 2, then delete them. So, I wont waste the spase here anymore. Insted herez a link to MSNBC starting with the Manafort part uv the story:
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/russian-paid-manafort-million
s-to-help-putin-influence-us-ap-904401987993?cid=eml_mra_20170323

They FINALLY got their act together on showing video! (took them yirz, goramit!) you can just let it go to the next clip wich appearz to be in sequens with the next segment uv the show.

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JO753

Sunday, March 26, 2017 4:27 AM

More Maddow madness.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/a-dire-period-of-scandal-for-
trump-in-turmoil-906180163647?cid=eml_mra_20170325

More JO investment advice: Any handcuff company. The FBI will be stocking up for the big Trump administration roundup. Its not going to be a mere perp wok, its going to be a perp parade!

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JO753

Monday, March 27, 2017 2:59 PM

The enemy: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/

This iz wut you get wen you pump liez and propaganda into the public for decadez. Kidz growing up in a world where facts and lojik are a matter uv opinion.

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JO753

Monday, March 27, 2017 3:34 PM

Therez a serious danjer here.

Wen The Donald fantasy bubble gets popped, how are theze rabid idiots going to react? The last big fantasy bubble pop wuz real estate/Wall Street. Rekt the world economy. Left us teetering on the ej uv the biggest depression in American history.

With sumwhere between 1/3 & 1/2 the country living in the Trump alternate reality there are going to be riots, roving bandz uv armed vandalz, assassinationz, etc. everywhere.

It wont matter how complete and damming the case agenst him iz or how well prezented. Even if Fox newz and all the other GoP propaganda outlets tell the truth for a chanje, theze wakkoz will be on fire.

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6STRINGJOKER

Monday, March 27, 2017 7:24 PM

In my less than 40 years on this planet it's only been Democrats that burn shit down en masse in this country. When Republicans have something to bitch about usually it's one lone nutter with a gun in a belfry.

If what you predict actually happens, you're probably looking at a 2nd civil war.

I won't hold my breath on your crystal ball though. If I had any money in the stock market and followed your financial advice I would have lost out on a ton of money and the 10% fee.

SIGNYM

Monday, March 27, 2017 10:00 PM

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Therez a serious danjer here.

Wen The Donald fantasy bubble gets popped, how are theze rabid idiots going to react?

JO, the only "rabid idiots" I see around here are you and the rest of the "rabid idiot" liberals. I could go on and on with examples about how rabid YOU are ... including this very pejorative statement about the rest of your fellow Americans, but all you need to do is check back with what you, SECOND, G, KPO, and especially SHINYSTUPIDGUY (who just wants to see "traitors" swinging at the end of a rope) have posted to see a REAL fantasy bubble.

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The last big fantasy bubble pop wuz real estate/Wall Street. Rekt the world economy. Left us teetering on the ej uv the biggest depression in American history.

Another financial crisis is baked in the cake, and it was caused by the Central Banks racking up too much debt and printing too much money trying to save an imploding system with more of the same strategy that caused it to implode in the first place (more debt sunk into more speculation).

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With sumwhere between 1/3 & 1/2 the country living in the ~~Trump~~ liberal alternate reality there are going to be riots, roving bandz uv armed vandalz, assassinationz, etc. everywhere.

More rabid idiocy. So far, most of the violence has been cause by ... ahem ... liberals.

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It wont matter how ~~complete and damming~~ pathetic and pointless the case agenst him iz or how ~~well~~ poorly prezented. Even if ~~Fox newz and all the other GoP~~ CNN and NYT and Rachel Madcow propaganda outlets tell the truth for a chanje, theze [liberal] wakkoz will ~~be on fire~~ stay propagandized

Fixed it for you.

See? Shoe is on the other foot, and you can't REASONABLY claim that what I posted is wrong. Can you agree that there is idiocy on the liberal side as well? Or are you exclusively claiming the intellectual/ moral high ground?

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JO753

Monday, March 27, 2017 10:11 PM

Do either uv you ever bother to look at the stuff linked to?

About the stock market - I see its been going down a little lately. Coud that be a sine that its about to crash?

They charj 10% wen you sell?!

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