The State of Freedom in Ukraine
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 9, 2025 04:23
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I've been very accommodating to wishy-washy. See, she likes things all personal-like. Just like you do. So I just give her what she wants.
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Are you that desperate to prove me wrong?
Oh yeah, you are ... that's why you stalk everything I say with that pious act.
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They have no notion of "good" or "bad"... you moron.
When you stop being so stupid, I'll be nicer. I'm tired of coddling people who don't have a clue...
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If every single person on this planet was addicted and useless WOULD YOU FEEL ANYTHING???
If this thought doesn't make you sick, there's nothing left of humanKIND in you.
Guess I shouldn't notice or care that CHILDREN ARE BEING STARVED AND STOMPED TO DEATH. OVER A GAME. Don't say a word because people will die and kill doing lotsa dumb things???? And they do it because "life sucks"?
FUCK THAT.
FUCK THEM.
WHAT IS IT WITH YOU PEOPLE?
Jesus Fucking Christ, it's like talking to a damn ten year old!
My problem is you... and the rest of this planet.
You have been watching the news for sixty years or so and you still have no idea what is going on.
Yep, suggestive ranting. I OWN YOU BITCH!
Like I said, it's been fun spanking you today.
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Troll, much?
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, what about those mass graves of "surgical waste" in Odessa? Weird, huh?
You seem to be taking a blatantly and unashamedly pro-Russia blog, which all it does is Google translates articles from Russian media into English, as gospel truth.
What's wrong, not even RT and Sputnik, your go-to propaganda mouthpieces are touching this story?
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Just who is this rant above me directed at 1kiki.
It appears to be an illogical rant based off a mis-comprehension of something I wrote. But honestly who knows.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Just who is this rant above me directed at 1kiki.
It appears to be an illogical rant based off a mis-comprehension of something I wrote. But honestly who knows.
She didn't know either so she claimed it was obvious or something to that effect and that I should know. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Dutch referendum shakes Ukraine
The vote worsens the country’s already chaotic politics.
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KIEV — Dutch voters’ resounding rejection of an EU-Ukraine Association Agreement has sent shockwaves through Ukraine’s political establishment, exacerbating the country’s already deep political crisis.
President Petro Poroshenko tried to put a positive spin on Wednesday’s non-binding referendum, in which more than 60 percent of Dutch voters came out against ratifying the trade deal between Brussels and Kiev.
“We will continue our movement towards the European Union,” Poroshenko said during an official visit to Japan.
But the president is under siege from all sides, including the country’s Western backers, who are growing frustrated with its ongoing political disarray and lack of movement on deep, systemic reform. For them, the referendum is yet another blow.
“This result is a personal verdict to Petro Poroshenko rather than to the country, the war, or people of the Netherlands,” wrote Mustafa Nayyem, an MP with Poroshenko’s own political bloc. “This is a verdict to the president of the country, who, despite the will of people and his own declarations, has chosen the ‘elite’ and oligarchs as partners.”
It is not clear what the referendum outcome means for the EU-Ukraine agreement. Of the EU’s 28 members, the Netherlands is the last government to ratify the deal — which already went into full effect in January. The Dutch prime minister, Mark Rutte, said the ratification could not automatically go forward, and he would now have to consult his government.
If the Dutch rejection leads to changes in the association agreement, that would be an enormous setback for Ukraine’s pro-Europe camp, which views the deal as one of the main anchors tying them to the EU.
For them, the agreement is something they paid for in blood: Two years ago pro-European protesters took to the streets, in part because Ukraine’s then-president, Viktor Yanukovych, balked at signing it at the last moment. [MAYBE BECAUSE IT'S A BAD DEAL?]
Yanukovych fled the country, and more than 100 people were killed in clashes in Kiev — and he was replaced by an ostensibly pro-reform and pro-EU administration.
Many Ukrainians are still very much pro-Europe — if only because this is seen as the main alternative to Russian pressure — but the mood is definitely souring. When the referendum results were made known, social media were full of comments viewing the Dutch voters’ decision as something of a betrayal.
Among commentators, the sense is that the vote comes on the heels of a general drift in EU policy towards Eastern Europe and Ukraine in particular. Kiev has never been offered the real prospective for EU membership, something that “explains a lot of Ukraine’s problems with political and economic development over the past two decades,” wrote Timothy Ash, an analyst with Nomura, the investment bank.
“Reformers in Kiev might well now find it that much more difficult to sell painful political and economic reforms to their own populations given that the Dutch have basically closed the door to them in terms of any European perspective,” Ash added. “The door has been closed, the drawbridge raised.”
The prime political casualty, at least initially, appears to be Poroshenko. He was already rocked by disclosures from the “Panama Papers” this week that he set up an offshore vehicle for his chocolate company, Roshen. Although it is unclear whether this broke Ukrainian law, and Poroshenko denies any wrongdoing, the revelations have added fuel to accusations that the president is involved in corruption.
Poroshenko has defended his actions, saying they were needed to set up a blind trust for his assets. But calls are growing in Ukraine for a full investigation, and one parliamentary leader, Oleh Lyashko of the Radical Party, is pushing for the president’s impeachment.
The Panama scandal comes on the heels of a weeks-long political deadlock over who will become prime minister, a fight that has paralyzed the government and led toNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
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Consequently, after much political back and forth, observers are now predicting that Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk will remain in his post.
With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one can say OOOOPS!
Ukraine’s Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk Resigns
It will not make a whit of difference to the Ukrainian economy, which is still ruled by oligarchs who have reached something of a comfortable detente with each other, blocking any meaningful improvement in the actual world of production, consumption, and debt payments.
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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Among commentators, the sense is that the vote comes on the heels of a general drift in EU policy towards Eastern Europe and Ukraine in particular. Kiev has never been offered the real prospective for EU membership, something that “explains a lot of Ukraine’s problems with political and economic development over the past two decades,” wrote Timothy Ash, an analyst with Nomura, the investment bank.
I think this is backwards. The possibility of EU membership was based on Ukraine being able to reform itself. Of course, it couldn't under its US-sponsored and self-inflicted chaos.
The Panama scandal comes on the heels of a weeks-long political deadlock over who will become prime minister, a fight that has paralyzed the government and led to growing worries that the country’s post-revolution reform program has stalled.
Of course it's stalled. The oligarchy has the money and wants to keep on getting as much money as possible. And along with money, each oligarch has amassed their own little army of mercenaries. There's a reason for the détente between them - a shooting war between nearly equal parties will cost more money than it makes.
All this leaves the government underfunded and out-gunned.
Aside from the private armies (with tanks and BUKs and artillery), this is exactly like the situation Russia had under 'gangster capitalism'. YAY FOR WESTERN ECONOMIC REFORM! Fortunately for Russia's people, it was able to pull back from the abyss. I don't think Ukraine will be as capable.
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The neo-Nazi Kiev Junta (as Russian media and Siggy calls it) votes in Ukraine's first Jewish Prime Minister - http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.714378
Should be interesting to hear the twins spin that one...
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