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Bernie Sanders Discussion Thread

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Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:58 AM

"The only polls that count with me are the ones that treat the Presidential race as a sporting match. Real money and bitcoins will be won or lost on these bets"

Those bets are placed because of decisions already made - for example, assigning Hillary all those superdelegates. They're not bets about whether Bernie should be president, or if he would be a good president, or if people want him to be president. They're about what his chances of completing the obstacle course are GIVEN THAT THE DECK HAS BEEN STACKED AGAINST HIM. And of course based on that Hillary hadn't been indicted - yet.

You've given your brain away and replaced it with the thoughtless reaction of the mob to things as they are RIGHT NOW. But the way things are right now can change.




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Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

Those bets are placed because of decisions already made - for example, assigning Hillary all those superdelegates. They're not bets about whether Bernie should be president, or if he would be a good president, or if people want him to be president. They're about what his chances of completing the obstacle course are GIVEN THAT THE DECK HAS BEEN STACKED AGAINST HIM. And of course based on that Hillary hadn't been indicted - yet.

You've given your brain away and replaced it with the thoughtless reaction of the mob to things as they are RIGHT NOW. But the way things are right now can change.

I'll give you my opinion of Bernie. He'd be the most worthless President since Franklin Pierce. Bernie is not the leader who will change America. He is a grumpy old man, more articulate than average, and nothing more than that. Any other candidate would make a bigger splash than Bernie as President. I predict he will be taking long naps in the White House and be dead before his first term is over.

From an Interview with Bernie. Some would read it and be impressed. I read it and I see his future as a failure in the White House, vilified by Congressional Republicans and ignored by Congressional Democrats who will be wishing Bernie had more energy. http://m.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-
editorial-board-article-1.2588306


1. Whether Wall Street executives could be prosecuted over their actions during the financial crisis.
Bernie: “Do I have them in front of me, now, legal statutes? No, I don’t.”

2. How far he wants Israel to pull back its illegal settlements.
Bernie: “You’re asking me a very fair question, and if I had some paper in front of me, I would give you a better answer.”

3. What the Supreme Court's recent decision on Metropolitan Life means.
Bernie: “It’s something I have not studied, honestly.”

4. How Israel should have handled its 2014 conflict in Gaza.
Bernie: “I don’t quite think I’m qualified to make decisions.”

5. President Obama's policy of giving the military authority over drone attacks.
Bernie: “I don’t know the answer to that.”

6. How he would handle the detention and interrogation of an ISIS commander.
Bernie: “Actually I haven’t thought about it a whole lot.”

7. The Palestinian leadership's decision to litigate Israeli war crimes in the International Criminal Court.
Bernie: “Look, why don’t I support a million things in the world?”

8. What big banks would look like after he's broken them up.
Bernie: “I'm not running JP Morgan Chase or Citibank.”


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 6, 2016 6:33 PM

Second, your reply is hilarious. You sound exactly like the paid shills on Facebook! LOL!

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Wednesday, April 6, 2016 6:52 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Second, your reply is hilarious. You sound exactly like the paid shills on Facebook! LOL!

Don't laugh. I sound to myself like I think Bernie can't handle the hostility he will face from the Republican party once he is President. He will collapse under real pressure. But some people think he has hidden reservoirs of calm decisiveness and perseverance against implacable foes. If he does, he is keeping those qualities well hidden.

Oh, and you should comment on that story about Nixon's treason. It shows what terrible things Republicans are capable of doing to a Democratic President. As Nixon did to LBJ, someday a Republican candidate could do to President Bernie. I hope Bernie handles it better than LBJ did, but I doubt Bernie.
www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/12/george-will-confirms-nixons-viet
nam-treason


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:38 PM

How Bernie Can Win!
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/its-really-hard-to-get-bernie-sand
ers-988-more-delegates
/

Who’s On Track For The Nomination?
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/dem
ocrats
/

The media has a systematic self-interested bias toward exaggerating how close the race is. Sanders supporters avidly read and share content about Sanders' big fundraising hauls and his wins in low-population states. Television networks want people to tune in to their debates and townhalls, which they are much more likely to do if they think something is at stake. And Sanders' big fundraising has been transformed into big advertising dollars, which is literally money into the pockets of media companies.

The media loves Bernie Sanders!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:45 AM

Gotta love the guy but it's over after NY.

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Thursday, April 7, 2016 5:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I'll give you my opinion of Bernie. He'd be the most worthless President since Franklin Pierce. Bernie is not the leader who will change America. He is a grumpy old man, more articulate than average, and nothing more than that. Any other candidate would make a bigger splash than Bernie as President. I predict he will be taking long naps in the White House and be dead before his first term is over.

From an Interview with Bernie. Some would read it and be impressed. I read it and I see his future as a failure in the White House, vilified by Congressional Republicans and ignored by Congressional Democrats who will be wishing Bernie had more energy. http://m.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-
editorial-board-article-1.2588306


1. Whether Wall Street executives could be prosecuted over their actions during the financial crisis.
Bernie: “Do I have them in front of me, now, legal statutes? No, I don’t.”

2. How far he wants Israel to pull back its illegal settlements.
Bernie: “You’re asking me a very fair question, and if I had some paper in front of me, I would give you a better answer.”

3. What the Supreme Court's recent decision on Metropolitan Life means.
Bernie: “It’s something I have not studied, honestly.”

4. How Israel should have handled its 2014 conflict in Gaza.
Bernie: “I don’t quite think I’m qualified to make decisions.”

5. President Obama's policy of giving the military authority over drone attacks.
Bernie: “I don’t know the answer to that.”

6. How he would handle the detention and interrogation of an ISIS commander.
Bernie: “Actually I haven’t thought about it a whole lot.”

7. The Palestinian leadership's decision to litigate Israeli war crimes in the International Criminal Court.
Bernie: “Look, why don’t I support a million things in the world?”

8. What big banks would look like after he's broken them up.
Bernie: “I'm not running JP Morgan Chase or Citibank.”


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



What are Hillary's or Trump's answers to those same questions, in the same interview environment? Or do they avoid those subjects?



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Thursday, April 7, 2016 5:52 PM

"When you improvise a plan, sometimes you hit a speed bump, and sometimes you hit it so hard, that you soar through the air, far beyond your initial expectations." - Pierce Hawthorne

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Thursday, April 7, 2016 6:30 PM

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Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:

What are Hillary's or Trump's answers to those same questions, in the same interview environment? Or do they avoid those subjects?



Find here the Serenity you seek. -Tara Maclay


The New York Daily News, which questioned Bernie, has an entire section devoted to Hillary.
http://m.nydailynews.com/tags/hillary-clinton

There are stories like: Pros say Sanders doesn't know enough about foreign policy-- "Bernie Sanders needs to seriously brush up his foreign policy chops, according to a statement from former security and diplomatic officials."

Bernie Sanders faces recoil on gun comments made to The News-- "Sanders' positions on guns and gun violence have been widely criticized in Democratic circles."

Maybe you can find there (at the Daily News) the Serenity you seek here.

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Thursday, April 7, 2016 9:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Gotta love the guy but it's over after NY.

Bernie said Hillary Not Qualified to Be President. I don't think he is lovable when he uses Republican talking points to attack a Democrat. But Bernie doesn't truthfully care in his heart how much he hurts the Democrats.

Today Hillary Clinton criticized Bernie Sanders: "I am concerned that some of his ideas just won't work, because the numbers don’t add up." I’ve added up Bernie’s numbers and Bernie’s answers are mathematically incorrect.
www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/06/clinton-says-s
anderss-plans-unrealistic-or-nonexistent-as-tame-democratic-primary-gets-testy/?tid=a_inl


And Hillary said about Bernie, "I think he himself doesn't consider himself to be a Democrat." Bernie can’t truthfully deny it.

And Hillary said, in response to Bernie’s widely-panned Daily News interview: "I think he hadn’t done his homework, and he’d been talking for more than a year about doing things that he obviously hadn’t really studied or understood."
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/clinton-says-sanders-hadn-t-145832404.ht
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Since Bernie can’t truthfully deny what Hillary said, he attacked Hillary with the Republican Party’s talking points. That is not how Bernie can prove he is superior to the Republican candidates, even though the crowd cheered for Bernie:



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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