Bernie Sanders Discussion Thread
POSTED BY: reaverfan
UPDATED: Monday, July 27, 2026 16:39
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Quote:There is worse. It's typical for the Democratic party left wing to sabotage the rest wing of the party. That's why Nixon won a second time. That's why the majority of states, governorships and Congress are Republican. The left would rather lose than compromise with the rest of the party. Then the left, in perfect self-righteousness, can bitch about the Republicans, Obama, and Clintons ruining the country.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I hope Bernie sabotages Hillary because I can't think of a worse choice.
But that is a long-running story to be told about the witless anger of the left at the rest of the Dem party. I'm thankful the left is not angrily repeating that Obama is a Kenyan and the Clintons killed Vince Foster.
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-f-will-nixons-long-shadow/2014/
08/06/fad8c00c-1ccb-11e4-ae54-0cfe1f974f8a_story.html
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Bernie Sanders wants public colleges and universities to eliminate tuition. He's convinced me that this is a good goal, but he's also produced a plan that would NOT achieve that goal.
Hillary Clinton has taken to pointing this out.
Sanders's reply to this, when asked by CNN's Erin Burnett, was to misdescribe the essential elements of his own plan.
More about Bernie's screwed up thinking on eliminating tuition is here:
www.vox.com/2016/3/30/11332612/bernie-sanders-free-college
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Why all the predictions that Bernie would lose to the reichwingers? That's not what the polls say.
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Quote:The only polls that count with me are the ones that treat the Presidential race as a sporting match. Real money and bitcoins will be won or lost on these bets:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Why all the predictions that Bernie would lose to the reichwingers? That's not what the polls say.
www.oddsshark.com/entertainment/us-presidential-odds-2016-futures
www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/us-politics?ev_oc_grp_i
ds=791149
The Democrats Are Flawlessly Executing a 10-Point Plan to Lose the 2016 Presidential Election
www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/the-democrats-10-point-plan-lose-
election_b_9605608.html
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That's a lot of words to say "nobody really knows."
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Will the general election come down to "anybody but Bernie" vs "anybody but Trump" this November?
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Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:
Maybe Bernie taking Nevada will make up a little bit for Hillary magically winning all six coin tosses in Iowa.
Paranoid much?
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Quote:That is a truism; nobody really knows the future. But you, reaverfan, can make part of the future without the uncertainties of Democrats and Republicans deciding. One of your bullets hits Bernie's heart and everybody in the world would know the future. Or Trump's 757 crashes because reaverfan placed an exploding box of make-america-great-again caps in the cargo bay and everybody knows even more about that future. In 1968, candidate Nixon told South Vietnamese President General Theiu to NOT accept LBJ's negotiated cease-fire, which lead to Nixon winning the election. Nixon really grabbed the future by the balls, squeezed hard, and he did it all in secret. It was treason, but so what? It worked! More than a million Vietnamese were killed because of Nixon's treason, but again, so what as far as Nixon cared? He was changing his future!
Originally posted by reaverfan:
That's a lot of words to say "nobody really knows."
www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/12/george-will-confirms-nixons-viet
nam-treason
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Quote:I have to say, your imagination is limited and your paranoia is completely mis-directed.
Yessiree. A suspicious person might even wonder if promoting Bernie - because he would loose to Trump and President Donald would be the worst thing for this country, especially Internationally - is partly the work of interests outside the US.
Personally, I want my president to have a bit of conniving and guile - better to recognize it in others. As much as I dislike Hillary in general and as a person from what I think I know, of all the choices left to us she's the only one I can imagine.
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Quote:Bernie Sanders has NOT convinced me that this is a good goal, and I doubt that he ever will. I'm against a lot of things that he's for, like free tuition (which is stupid) and enhanced immigration.
Bernie Sanders wants public colleges and universities to eliminate tuition. He's convinced me that this is a good goal, but he's also produced a plan that would NOT achieve that goal.
I doubt that he'll get 0.01% of his domestic agenda accomplished, because it will be Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and Russ Feingold (assuming he gets elected) against everybody else - Democrat and Republican alike - who are desperately sucking on the money-teat.
The one area where Presidents have more leeway is foreign policy - they can go negotiate trade deals, or make peace with nations, or destabilize nations because the President is Commander in Chief, ultimate head of the State Department and the CIA, and represents the nation in foreign affairs.
Sanders, like Trump, is against the TPP and the TTIP. Call me a several-issue voter, but right now I'm not looking for pie in the sky, but VERY directed policies.
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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