Bernie Sanders Discussion Thread
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Quote:An idea that's integral to Bernie's political revolution but never required him to win a presidential election --- mobilizing young liberals to vote every two years rather than skipping midterms.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
If [Clinton] gets the nomination, I will NOT be voting for her, no matter who she's running against.
Although young liberals do vote for downballot candidates when they show up to vote in presidential elections, they're not especially engaged with those races, which is why they don't bother voting in midterms.
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Yes, the MSM is doing a fantastic job on all of us. Half the country is going for Trump and the other half for Hilary.................really!?
Everyone blames the MSM for the country's attitude and for the nominees success.
But wasn't it Bernie, despite the MSM touting Trump and Hilary, that defeated her
in Michigan?
Please, that excuse is as tired as Bernie's "Wall Street Bad" montra. A tired old excuse that died along with the Slinky.
On another front; The Donald managed to push back the clock about 50 years to the rocking 60s. The Chicago convention in 1968 was sure rocking as punches and
fists flew all over the place. YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Thems were da good ole days! Back when the Silent Majority was taking their first baby steps, and white sheets were more than a fashion statement. Fuck Yeah! The Donald sure knows how to show "his" people a good time. And, of course, he blames everyone else - Bernie supporters and the MSM - but himself, for inciting a riot, er, I mean, a party. P-A-R-T--Y, because I gotta!
Time sure does fly when your prejudice is showing.
SGG
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Didn't see one, so here it is.
Winning Michigan last night, in spite of polling predictions that he'd lose by 20%, has shown that Sanders' campaign is growing stronger by the day.
Huge turnouts. A small-donor campaign fund. A reputation for consistency and decency. A truly progressive agenda.
I think he'll rout Hillary and become our next president. He also beats Trump by a larger margin than Hillary in the polls.
How do you view him defeating his greatest opponent - the MainStreamMedia?
They cannot back him over Hilliary.
So how does he pull it off? Even if he gets more delegates, Hilliary will still be annointed the winner.
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So, his intentions are good and consistent. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, let me see: Obama, as you know, has been blocked and every turn, almost from Day One. So, his intentions are not honorable? He doesn't want to put America to work and rebuild our crumbling infrastructure? And you know this, How exactly?
Bernie has some good ideas, no doubt, but will he be able to accomplish 1/10th of
what he has proposed? I really do wish that Bernie and his Donaldness wins. I want
to see how they will implement their lofty ideas and goals. By the end of Trump's disastrous 1 term, let's see if he actually builds that wall and deports 11 million
people. And Bernie, let's see if he will get Congress to go along with restructuring Wall Street.
I really do hope they win. I'd like to see them succeed. Let's see how far they get.
Elizabeth Warren 2020!
SGG
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
SGG
"Yes, he has addressed fixing the country's infrastructure. Bravo! But the president has addressed this almost from the beginning of his time in office, yet nothing has been done."
The difference between Bernie and Obama, or Bernie and Hillary, is that Bernie's been walking his talk for a long, long time. His record and his rhetoric are consistent.
Now, whether he'll be able to get anything done is a different question. But I think his intentions are beyond doubt.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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That is the Million Dollar Question!
I think the Repubs have done so much damage to their brand that the mid-term elections may swing back the other way. But that's a Big If! Basically, that's the key.........and it doesn't matter if it's Bernie or Hilary at the helm, or, at least, it shouldn't matter.
But, I'm thinking it would be best that Trump win, just so that people won't complain that the fix is in. Plus he'll tank so badly that one of two things will happen: Either the GOP will slowly fade into the sunset, or, you will see the formation of the Independent Party.......Heaven help us!
Maybe both will happen. Please Lord, let Trump win!
SGG
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Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
SGG
"Yes, he has addressed fixing the country's infrastructure. Bravo! But the president has addressed this almost from the beginning of his time in office, yet nothing has been done."
The difference between Bernie and Obama, or Bernie and Hillary, is that Bernie's been walking his talk for a long, long time. His record and his rhetoric are consistent.
Now, whether he'll be able to get anything done is a different question. But I think his intentions are beyond doubt.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
If Bernie WINS, it's a fair guess to say that the Dems would also gain seats in Congress, leading to a better possibility of things getting done.
Find here the Serenity you seek. -Tara Maclay
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Quote:That Independent Party will not happen. Why? Why is the USA a two party political system? Why only two parties?
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Either the GOP will slowly fade into the sunset, or, you will see the formation of the Independent Party.......Heaven help us!
Maybe both will happen. Please Lord, let Trump win!
SGG
Answer: the USA has single member districts. It refuses to use proportional representation. Nearly all democracies with winner-take-all districts tend toward two-party systems. A party that always ends up in 2nd or 3rd place will never get any seats. Zero seats. Why James Madison thought that was good idea for the USA Constitution, I will never know, but now it cannot be fixed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger's_law
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Bernie is a grumpy, dogmatic scold. And his policies - and his presentation (see grumpy, dogmatic scold) - leave many Americans feeling unsettled, rather than hopeful and energized. That he's doing as well as he is is an indictment of Hillary, who I think should have otherwise been a shoe-in for the democratic nomination.
Though my hopes are for Bernie, I think Hillary will get the nomination.
If she gets the nomination, I will NOT be voting for her, no matter who she's running against.
Are you a supporter of "anyone but Hilliary" this year?
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" So, his intentions are not honorable?"
Not with his neo-CON State Department, spying on us, drone strikes, and pushing those 'free' trade agreements. Those are all on him, and something he has complete control over.
So, no, his intentions are not honorable.
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http://www.salon.com/2016/03/16/new_york_times_busted_for_anti_bernie_
bias_the_iconic_clinton_endorsing_newspaper_slyly_edits_article_to_smear_sanders/
New York Times busted for anti-Bernie bias: The iconic, Clinton-endorsing newspaper slyly edits article to smear Sanders
As the media is slammed for anti-Sanders bias, the NYT changes a piece on Bernie's impressive legislative record
Ben Norton
The website NewsDiffs tracks changes in articles in prominent media outlets. The following shows the times of the changes in the headline (original is at the bottom):
Content in the article that shined positively on Sanders was removed as well.
The Times cut out a quote from a longtime adviser who said Sanders’ approach “has been a very successful strategy,” and instead replaced it with two harshly critical paragraphs that suggest he would not be able to succeed at a national level and accuse him of promising voters ” the moon and a good part of the sun.”
A line describing Sanders’ legislative approach as “the liberal mirror image of the Tea Party Republicans who oppose large-scale legislation” was also edited and taken out of context, reducing Sanders’ record simply to “the liberal mirror image of the Tea Party Republicans.”
Moreover, the Times quietly added a phrase that implies Sanders only succeeds “at the margins,” and added a qualifier that weakens a line that calls the Vermont senator an “effective, albeit modest, legislator.”
The Times makes no mention whatsoever of the edits in the piece, and has added no editor’s notes. The newspaper’s public editor, Margaret Sullivan, insisted she would report changes at the Times Public Editor’s Journal. As of 2 pm EST on Wednesday, has not yet done so.
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I'm tired of hearing about Trump this and Trump that, but Hilary doesn't get half the love Bernie gets in the media. For months I heard nothing but how the crowds were flocking to Bernie rallies. Now, all of a sudden...............boo hoo, we're not getting enough coverage.
And now, the anti-semitism excuse is being thrown in? Give me a break! But surely you've heard the news that there's no more racism in the United States.
So what you are saying is that the South hates Jews. Hmmmmm, I wonder who would
say such a thing? Surely not Trump or anyone wearing white sheets over their
heads.
Funny thing: Why not even try to communicate?
SGG
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Just like he is getting more youthful looking and, any day now in order to win the general election, will be embracing Christ and throwing aside his Judaism/atheism/socialism.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Winning Michigan last night, in spite of polling predictions that he'd lose by 20%, has shown that Sanders' campaign is growing stronger by the day.
here are a few exit poll results from Michigan:
Sanders won union households 49-47 percent.
Clinton won voters who think the economy is the most important issue by 51-48 percent.
Among voters who think trade with other countries takes away US jobs, Sanders won 58-41 percent.
Among voters worried about the economy, Clinton won 50-48 percent.
Sanders won a convincing victory among voters who think trade takes away US jobs. But more generally, voters concerned about the economy broke pretty evenly.
The bigger story, perhaps, is that Sanders won a whopping 83 percent of voters under 30. That's a fifth of the electorate. He also won a respectable 31 percent of the black vote. In both cases, this is better than he usually does.
Sanders didn't campaign too hard in the southern states. He was never going to do well there. Establishment dems, black religious voters who really like the Clintons, Democratic machine workings and just a touch of anti-semitism meant he would choke there even if he tried.
Michigan was different. He actually organized and spent a little money, and voila.
The Bubba vote is all counted. It's on to the blue and purple states, now. The media, of course, just ignore him and fawns over Trump and Clinton.
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Foreign policy.
That new economy and the job creation within.
Military intervention and deployment.
The Military Industrial Complex (within his New economy).
Climate change policy.
Environmental issues.
To name a few.
SGG
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Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You know, I'm all for the little guy finally getting a break in this country. Minimum wage, health care, etc. But Bernie sounds more and more
like a broken record. All he continues to say is "Wall Street, Billionaires
and fixed economy."
Granted, those things matter and are part of the landscape, but the country's problems run much deeper than that. Couldn't he at least acknowledge and address some of the other issues facing the American people. Not all will be fixed by changing the economic structure of this
country. I really don't think he's aware of all that is going on here.
SGG
Which issue, that you're concerned about, has he not addressed?
Find here the Serenity you seek. -Tara Maclay
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