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Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:43 PM

The reason why Bernie has only my halfhearted support is because of his foreign policy. He's been in the Senate long enough to have a voting record. I think this sums it up quite well ...


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A report on Yahoo News August 24 raises the question of “How President Bernie Sanders would handle foreign policy.” It begins by taking note of this curious fact: “Bernie Sanders, the Independent senator from Vermont, has a special ‘War and Peace’ section on his official website, detailing his views on issues like Iraq, Afghanistan and the Middle East peace process. Bernie Sanders, the contender for the Democratic presidential nomination … doesn’t.”

The report goes on to detail the positions that Sanders has taken on a range of foreign policy issues, based on his voting record as a congressman and senator. His profile is typical of liberal Democrats, supporting the Clinton administration’s war against Serbia in 1999 and the Bush administration’s invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, while voting against the Persian Gulf War in 1991 and the Authorization for the Use of Military Force against Iraq in 2002. Sanders criticized Obama’s bombing of Libya in 2011—mainly because he did not seek congressional authorization—but backed his bombing of Iraq and Syria in 2014.

Sanders is a down-the-line supporter of the state of Israel, repeatedly endorsing Israeli onslaughts against the Gaza Strip, most recently the savage bombardment of July-August 2014 which killed nearly 2,000 Palestinians, including more than 500 children. At an August 2014 town hall meeting, Sanders notoriously demanded that audience members “shut up” when they questioned his support for Israel’s criminal actions.

He is a vociferous opponent of China in both economic

That's a good thing, IMO

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and foreign policy, and backed the US intervention in Ukraine to foment a coup spearheaded by fascist elements to overthrow the pro-Russian government and set up a pro-Western stooge regime. “The entire world has got to stand up to Putin,” Sanders declared last year, at a time when the warmongering campaign in the US and European media was at its height.-


Better than Hillary? Yes. But that's a VERY low bar to step over!

That link that THUGR posted is excellent. Thanks, THUGR!


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Sunday, March 13, 2016 7:07 AM

Okay, so he won Michigan despite predictions, but as I watch the debates, he's beginning to sound like a broken record.............

Moderator: Flint water supply and the politicos who did a "Titanic" on the residents of the city, how can "we" do better?

Bernie: If Wall Street were to pay for their crimes this wouldn't have happened.

Moderator: Homeland security......blah, blah

Bernie: I'm glad you asked that question, security is important but minimum wage should be $15/hr and then free tuition for all colleges...............

No matter what you ask him or what the topic he always brings it back to his main
themes - Wall Street, economic equality, Hilary and the transcripts, college tuition, Billionaire class. Granted those are important issues, I'm all for someone
from Wall Street going to jail for almost bankrupting the country, but there's more to it than that. Everyone is tired of politics as usual because the billionaires
succeeded in pounding it into our collective psyche.

It's all about control, and they have concocted a brilliant plan. Koch brothers don't fool me, I know that they want to control the majority of people's thinking.
Get 'em all riled up and not thinking clearly about our collective future. Get 'em
hating on each other instead of thinking about what's right for this country. Bernie has some good ideas - a revolution is needed. I'm not sure if he can lead the way.

Funny thing is that the gridlock in Washington is really due to the "outsiders" rather than the "insiders" as the king of all that is wrong with Washington has
so emphatically stated. Just to be clear, that king is Ted Cruz. I should really say, Jester and master of the Tea Party, who have been unusually quiet of late.
Of course, we have the "silent majority," a misnomer if I ever heard one, is
another branch of the Tea Party who are desperately trying to hang on to their privilege and dominance. Of course, I'm speaking in the general abstract of the nation's collective psyche that this country is for a particular group of people,
and that all others are mere interlopers.

Guess again! Generally speaking the Koch Brothers want to maintain the status quo:
namely, remain rich and privileged......no matter what.


SGG


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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Didn't see one, so here it is.

Winning Michigan last night, in spite of polling predictions that he'd lose by 20%, has shown that Sanders' campaign is growing stronger by the day.

Huge turnouts. A small-donor campaign fund. A reputation for consistency and decency. A truly progressive agenda.

I think he'll rout Hillary and become our next president. He also beats Trump by a larger margin than Hillary in the polls.






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Sunday, March 13, 2016 7:32 AM

Okay, let's look at one in particular:

Does he really think that breaking up that old gang at Wall Street is going to fix
what took place in Flint?

You may wonder why Flint is on my mind. Here's why: Because Flint could happen
anywhere in the country. Recently they've discovered lead in the water of a school
in Newark, NJ. And in Jackson, MS more of the same.

Yes, he has addressed fixing the country's infrastructure. Bravo! But the president has addressed this almost from the beginning of his time in office, yet nothing has been done. What Bernie has mentioned in his campaigning is nothing new. Again, kudos to him for even mentioning the country's infrastructure. Does he have a specific plan? I haven't heard it.

He's worried about Hilary's transcripts, really!? I always thought that this country admired and revered those who accomplished success and made gobs of money.
Trump for example. But because there's a Clinton after her name............


SGG


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Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You know, I'm all for the little guy finally getting a break in this country. Minimum wage, health care, etc. But Bernie sounds more and more
like a broken record. All he continues to say is "Wall Street, Billionaires
and fixed economy."

Granted, those things matter and are part of the landscape, but the country's problems run much deeper than that. Couldn't he at least acknowledge and address some of the other issues facing the American people. Not all will be fixed by changing the economic structure of this
country. I really don't think he's aware of all that is going on here.


SGG



Which issue, that you're concerned about, has he not addressed?



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Tuesday, March 15, 2016 5:27 AM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Didn't see one, so here it is.

Winning Michigan last night, in spite of polling predictions that he'd lose by 20%, has shown that Sanders' campaign is growing stronger by the day.

Huge turnouts. A small-donor campaign fund. A reputation for consistency and decency. A truly progressive agenda.

I think he'll rout Hillary and become our next president. He also beats Trump by a larger margin than Hillary in the polls.



How do you view him defeating his greatest opponent - the MainStreamMedia?
They cannot back him over Hilliary.
So how does he pull it off? Even if he gets more delegates, Hilliary will still be annointed the winner.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2016 5:30 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

How do you view him defeating his greatest opponent - the MainStreamMedia?
They cannot back him over Hilliary.
So how does he pull it off? Even if he gets more delegates, Hilliary will still be annointed the winner.



No, she won't

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Tuesday, March 15, 2016 5:53 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

How do you view him defeating his greatest opponent - the MainStreamMedia?
They cannot back him over Hilliary.
So how does he pull it off? Even if he gets more delegates, Hilliary will still be annointed the winner.



No, she won't






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Tuesday, March 15, 2016 6:13 AM

Bernie is a grumpy, dogmatic scold. And his policies - and his presentation (see grumpy, dogmatic scold) - leave many Americans feeling unsettled, rather than hopeful and energized. That he's doing as well as he is is an indictment of Hillary, who I think should have otherwise been a shoe-in for the democratic nomination.

Though my hopes are for Bernie, I think Hillary will get the nomination.

If she gets the nomination, I will NOT be voting for her, no matter who she's running against.




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Tuesday, March 15, 2016 8:19 AM

SGG

"Yes, he has addressed fixing the country's infrastructure. Bravo! But the president has addressed this almost from the beginning of his time in office, yet nothing has been done."

The difference between Bernie and Obama, or Bernie and Hillary, is that Bernie's been walking his talk for a long, long time. His record and his rhetoric are consistent.

Now, whether he'll be able to get anything done is a different question. But I think his intentions are beyond doubt.




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Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:15 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
SGG

"Yes, he has addressed fixing the country's infrastructure. Bravo! But the president has addressed this almost from the beginning of his time in office, yet nothing has been done."

The difference between Bernie and Obama, or Bernie and Hillary, is that Bernie's been walking his talk for a long, long time. His record and his rhetoric are consistent.

Now, whether he'll be able to get anything done is a different question. But I think his intentions are beyond doubt.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.


If Bernie WINS, it's a fair guess to say that the Dems would also gain seats in Congress, leading to a better possibility of things getting done.



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Wednesday, March 16, 2016 8:23 AM

Even tho I think Berniez messaj iz getting monotonous and Hillary haz better credentialz for the job, I put in a vote for him today.

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