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Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria

POSTED BY: kpo
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1KIKI

Tuesday, February 23, 2016 12:55 AM

"it is likely that all of these "headlines" will change throughout the day"

Just to show how little experience you have with world news, the answer is ... not really, except CNN and FOX as msm examples.

What appears to be updating during the day (for example the BBC and Reuters) has to do with time zones. When you (if you're in New York) look at the headlines at 08:00 it's already 13:00 in London and 14:00 in Berlin. (if you're in Los Angeles the numbers are 08:00, 16:00 and 17:00 respectively.) By the time you in New York look at the headlines again at 19:00 it's 24:00 in London and 01:00 in Berlin. It's already the next day and they're on to the next news day. (In Los Angeles those numbers are 19:00, 03:00 and 04:00 respectively.)

I know because I track those specific news sources every day, and I know they DON'T change during the day. Neither does the NYTimes, WashPost, or LATimes. Of the sources I track, the only ones that continually update during the day are CNN, FOX, and Zero Hedge.

BTW, the same time zone effect is even more true for other news sources even further away, like RT and Xinhua.

Your lack of knowledge and experience with international news is showing. Again.

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KPO

Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:29 AM

Amnesty International joins the outcry against Russian war crimes in Syria: http://news.sky.com/story/1645573/russia-guilty-of-syria-war-crimes-sa
ys-amnesty

Report also contains footage (mercifully pixelated) of children and infants being pulled from the rubble after an airstrike in Aleppo.

KPO

Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:42 AM

My mistake, Amnesty spoke out against Russian crimes back in December as well:

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Russian air strikes in Syria have killed hundreds of civilians and caused massive destruction in residential areas, striking homes, a mosque and a busy market, as well as medical facilities, in a pattern of attacks that show evidence of violations of international humanitarian law, said Amnesty International in a new briefing published today.

‘Civilian objects were not damaged’: Russia’s statements on its attacks in Syria unmasked highlights the high price civilians have paid for suspected Russian attacks across the country. The report focuses on six attacks in Homs, Idleb and Aleppo between September and November 2015 which killed at least 200 civilians and around a dozen fighters. The briefing includes evidence suggesting that Russian authorities may have lied to cover up civilian damage to a mosque from one air strike and a field hospital in another. It also documents evidence suggesting Russia’s use of internationally banned cluster munitions and of unguided bombs in populated residential areas.

“Some Russian air strikes appear to have directly attacked civilians or civilian objects by striking residential areas with no evident military target and even medical facilities, resulting in deaths and injuries to civilians. Such attacks may amount to war crimes,” said Philip Luther, Director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Amnesty International.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/12/syria-russias-shameful-
failure-to-acknowledge-civilian-killings/

Amnesty's methodology of research into the incidents:

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Amnesty International interviewed eyewitnesses and survivors of attacks as well as examining video evidence and images showing the aftermath of attacks, aided by analysis by weapons experts. The attacks were identified as suspected Russian air strikes by cross-referencing details of each attack with statements from the Russian Ministry of Defence announcing “terrorist” targets struck, or from details about the nature of the attack in witness testimony.

The organization’s research into these strikes indicate that there were no military targets or fighters in the immediate vicinity of the areas that were struck. This suggests that the attacks may have violated international humanitarian law and may, in some circumstances, constitute war crimes.

In one of the deadliest attacks documented in the briefing three missiles were fired on a busy market in the centre of Ariha in Idleb governorate killing 49 civilians. Witnesses described how within seconds the bustling Sunday market turned to a scene of carnage...

Follow the link and read on, if you have the stomach for it.

EDIT:

Oh what the hell I'm posting it anyway:

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...In just a few moments, people were screaming, the smell of burning was in the air and there was just chaos. There was a primary school nearby, and children were running out absolutely terrified… there were bodies everywhere, decapitated and mutilated,” said Mohammed Qurabi al-Ghazal, a local media activist.

He saw one woman sitting and crying beside 40 bodies lined up in a row. She had lost her husband and three children. ”Her children were literally in bags. To this day, I cannot get over it,” he added.

In another suspected Russian attack, at least 46 civilians, including 32 children and 11 women who were sheltering for safety in the basement of a residential building, were killed on 15 October in al-Ghantu, Homs governorate. Video footage of the scene after the attack shows no evidence of a military presence. Weapons experts who analysed images of the attack said the nature of the destruction indicated possible use of fuel-air explosives (also known as “vacuum bombs”), a type of weapon particularly prone to indiscriminate effects when used in the vicinity of civilians...

Russian government lies and deflection to cover up its atrocities:

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The Russian authorities’ reaction to an attack on Omar Bin al-Khattab mos

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THGRRI

Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:21 PM

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Originally posted by G:
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“Some Russian air strikes appear to have directly attacked civilians or civilian objects by striking residential areas with no evident military target and even medical facilities, resulting in deaths and injuries to civilians. Such attacks may amount to war crimes,” said Philip Luther, Director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Amnesty International.

It seems to be Russia's and Russian trolls' go-to response for these allegations - the "no response" response. We see it here even. "If I don't acknowledge it, then it didn't happen." Or, at the very least, it will go away sooner.

And even when they do try and "explain"... it's little green men time.

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Russian government lies and deflection to cover up its atrocities:

"The Russian authorities’ reaction to an attack on Omar Bin al-Khattab mosque in central Jisr al-Shughour, Idleb governorate, on 1 October raises serious questions about the tactics they are prepared to deploy to undermine criticism of their operations. After reports and photos of the destroyed mosque emerged, the Russian authorities responded by calling it a “hoax”, presenting a satellite image purporting to show the mosque still intact. However, the mosque shown in the image was a different one from the one destroyed in the attack.

“By presenting satellite imagery of an intact mosque and claiming it showed another that had been destroyed, the Russian authorities appear to have used sleight of hand to try to avoid reproach and avert scrutiny of their actions in Syria..."

The level of immaturity in their cover ups is what stands out to me - like a game almost - or like a junior high school kid trying to avoid parental detection. I only wish it was that funny.

Russia always addresses controversial issues by shaping their statements towards appeasing the home front. Then the comrade trolls fall in line and repeat the Russian talking points.

For the last year or so we here have witnessed this process in abundance.

THGRRI

Sunday, February 28, 2016 6:43 PM

TEHRAN, Iran - Partial results released Sunday indicate that Iranian reformists will win all 30 parliamentary seats in Tehran, handing hard-liners an embarrassing defeat in the first elections held since last year's nuclear deal.

Rafsanjani, a former president himself and close ally of current President Rouhani, is leading the race for membership to the influential Assembly of Experts, a body that chooses Iran's most powerful figure, the supreme leader, according to Reuters.

State TV said Sunday that reformists -- who favor expanding social freedoms and improving relations with the West -- are set to win all of Tehran's seats. It said 62 percent of the capital's votes have been counted."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-hard-liners-defeated-parliamentary-el
ections-tehran/

1KIKI

Monday, February 29, 2016 1:05 AM

"Let me get this straight...You track those news sources every day, throughout the day, when you know they don't change?"

Hmmm ... did I say 'throughout'? Where did I say 'throughout'? What DID I say? I said "I know because I track those specific news sources every day, and I know they DON'T change during the day." Ie I check them in the AM and PM and I see they haven't changed.

So you've posted ANOTHER STRAWMAN!!! You must be working on setting some kind of trolling record! Or you really are just that stupid.

1KIKI

Monday, February 29, 2016 3:21 AM

"the "no response" response"

If any of you can learn to read what I post and reply to that, or post some, yanno, facts - instead of responding to the voices in your head, or posting about whatever it is you're hallucinating that day - I'll respond. But as long as you keep posting idiocy, like "Let me get this straight...", all I'll do is just keep pointing at you and laughing.

Maybe you'll eventually acquire some honesty and intelligence, and learn to discuss facts. But I'm not going to patiently wait for you all to grow up.

1KIKI

Monday, February 29, 2016 10:18 PM

"You took 5 days to come up with that answer?? "

You don't work? You don't have a family? Figures.

"My bad. When you said DURING the day I thought you meant DURING the day."

1. throughout the duration, continuance, or existence of:
2. at some time or point in the course of:

And you cherry pick definitions to cover up your weak language skills? Yeah, it goes along with your general dishonesty.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, March 1, 2016 2:09 AM

This is why I'm not participating in this thread anymore:

1) It started out biased, like "Russian Invasion of Ukraine". If there was a thread about "WAR CRIMES IN SYRIA" - of which there are a-plenty - that would be more informative. But KPO - being the anti-Russian troll that he is - zeros right in on every presumed Russian infraction, and ignores proven ones like the ones ISIL is committing right now.

2) Just like the "Russian Invasion of Ukraine" thread KPO (and the two other stooges) takes every oppty to air that particular bee in his bonnet.

3) The thread gets its lifespan by attention. I refuse to pay attention to it from now. All of the time that I might have spent arguing minor points, I spent more productively recovering from surgery and managing my health better, going to a newly-discovered CA-native nursery, starting and re-potting plants, helping build a new computer, trying out new recipes, cleaning up, and being present for my family. What's the point of engaging fully-biased people who even REFUSE to look at a website because it might dirty their ideological skirt hems? After this, I'll refill the hummingbird feeders.

4) Just as an aside of how ridiculous G, KPO, and THUGR are: "G" - the top headlines that I posted were a SNAPSHOT- a 10-minute or less moment in time from various websites. Yes, some websites have "scrolling headlines", but for those which don't, I posted THE top headline at the moment, and for those which do they fortunately had a "Breaking news" headline which I chose. The point still stands: If you look at various websites- whether over a 10-minute or 24-hour or 1-week period, they present very different viewpoints, "updates" or not. Comparing ALL of the headlines across ALL of the websites at any one time, I'm fortunate if they overlap by 7%. Arguing over whether "updates" changes that fact ( it doesn't) is pointless - as are you.

5) I've found a much better discussion board- one that isn't filled by ideological trolls, like you three.

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1KIKI

Tuesday, March 1, 2016 3:07 AM

"Your work and family are so demanding you can't post?"

Yes.

I see you avoided the question. So, what's your excuse for endlessly trolling? No job? No family?

Figures.

And what's your excuse for your dishonesty? Oh, you have none, you say?

And what's your excuse for being so stupid you lied about a word definition of all things, something ANYONE could easily refute in under 30 seconds?

So, no job, no family, troll, dishonest AND stupid! You really got it going on, dontcha?