How truth is manufactured in the West
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Sunday, May 3, 2026 22:46
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Link to a post that's more appropriate here.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60002&mid=1
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SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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ANOTHER way to manufacture some semblance of "the truth" is to get previously-embedded NGOs - like Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International- to thump your propaganda for you.
Since American NGOs have the gloss of independence, and their revolving-door relationships to the State Department, CIA, high-level politicians, banks, and international corporations is hidden from view, they can publish all sorts of lies with a veneer of objectivity and authority.
Human Rights Watch (HRW) is an organization that I've looked at closely. They were instrumental in drumming up support for the destruction of Libya, by "reporting" that Qaddafi was massacring peaceful protesters when he wasn't.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2011/02/20/libya-governments-should-demand-en
d-unlawful-killings
HRW also thumped that Assad has gassed his own people with Sarin, when he hadn't, nearly prompting a full-scale bombing by the USA.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2013/09/10/syria-government-likely-culprit-ch
emical-attack
HRW has also supported CIA rendition and torture. All of this should be enough to obliterate its reputation of honesty, independence, and objectivity ... if only people knew about it.
This came up in a thread where some NGOs are accusing Russia cluster bombs and other "war crimes" in Syria. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60278&mid=1
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
There is a difference between THUGR is a genius., and THUGR is a "genius". And everyone knows it except THUGR, who is a "genius".
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SIG quotation marks are a signal to the reader about the true meaning of the sentence. So when one reads your sentence and even the rest of the quote, it is obvious what you meant to say. It is your opinion that Turkey invaded Iraq. You would needed to add the words (did not) and then "invade" in quotes, for it to mean what you now claim it to mean.
To late for that.
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Meanwhile, Turkey is stationing its military in Qatar, and has "invaded" Iraq. ITs troops are now using tanks and troops to sanitize its own Kurdish regions, as the Kurdish leaders visit Moscow. Can you say "civil war"? Sure you can!.
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Quote:If quotation marks are to denote the "true meaning" of a sentence, then EVERY sincerely-meant sentence and EVERY sincerely written word should have quotation marks around them, should they not?
Originally posted by THGRRI:
SIG quotation marks are a signal to the reader about the true meaning of the sentence.
And if every sincerely-meant sentence, and if every truly-meant word - which should be almost every word, post, and sentence on this forum - DON'T have quotation marks around them ... what does that mean?
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It means that you're wrong about the intended use of quotation marks
Quote:It is obvious to everybody EXCEPT YOU. If I call you a "genius", does that mean I'm sincerely saying that you're a genius? If I say that the United States is a "peacemaker" does that mean that I really think that the USA is a peacemaker? If I write that Turkey "invaded" Iraq, does that really mean that I think Turkey invaded Iraq???
So when one reads the sentence and even the rest of the quote, it is obvious what you meant to say.
Quote:No, it is YOUR opinion
It is your opinion
Quote:Only in your fervid imagination.
that Turkey invaded Iraq. You would needed to add the words (did not) and then "invade" in quotes, for it to mean what you now claim it to mean.
This is directly what I wrote:
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Meanwhile, Turkey is stationing its military in Qatar, and has "invaded" Iraq. ITs troops are now using tanks and troops to sanitize its own Kurdish regions, as the Kurdish leaders visit Moscow. Can you say "civil war"? Sure you can!.
THUGR, I can't make up for your lack of English skills and failure to comprehend. If you don't believe ME then please, for the love of god, look up the use of quotation marks to denote irony, and stop making a fool of yourself. Even in conversation, people make little quotation marks in the air with their fingers to denote that they disbelieve a certain word or phrase. If any of your friends here on the board caught just a whiff of you being right on this one, they'd be all over it like white on rice. Instead, they seem to be keeping a careful distance from this particular cliff that you're intent on jumping from. That should give you pause for thought. (But I'm sure it won't.)
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
There is a difference between THUGR is a genius., and THUGR is a "genius". And everyone knows it except THUGR, who is a "genius".
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Quote:With great lack of perceiving sarcasm comes great lack of responsibility.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There is a difference between THUGR is a genius., and THUGR is a "genius". And everyone knows it except THUGR, who is a "genius".
There is a comic that covers this situation, approximately. It's title is “Undefeated” and is at http://abstrusegoose.com/558
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The article goes on to say
Two international observer missions gave much more positive assessments than the OSCE's. The 56 members of the European Academy for Elections Observation, most of whom are European Parliament members
Err, who is this group?? Never heard of them, but a quick google search casts doubt on their credibility. Apparently they commented positively on Azerbaijan's 2013 and 2015 elections, which is frankly laughable. This article gives a good description of how corrupt and extremist MEPs become election monitors on behalf of undemocratic regimes, which may be what's at play here: http://www.politico.eu/article/european-parliament-goes-soft-on-flawed
-azerbaijan-election/
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Observers from the ex-Soviet countries in the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) called the election "transparent and democratic".
Haha even better, officials from Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan conducting election monitoring. Perfect
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it didn't stop Yanukovich rigging them.
And here's where you - yet AGAIN! - cherry pick the small bit out of the article...
Blah blah blah. Yanukovich rigged those elections, the OSCE said so. Get over it.
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And kiki, didn't you have evidence of a coup as well? Armed men storming Yanukovich's residence?
Actually, I didn't say 'STORMING'. So nice of you to put words in my mouth
I'm sorry, you've talked so much and so fervently about a 'coup', I'm just waiting for some evidence that remotely resembles one. So what did you actually say... You talked about "armed men" being sent to Yanukovich's residence and unleashing "violence directed at Yanukovych personally". So Where is your evidence for this?!?! You gave two links but neither one of them provided ANY evidence to back up this assertion. Unless you count the unsubstantiated claims of a corrupt, pro-Russian ex-president as 'evidence'. But no, seriously, what evidence do you have?
You too Signy. I'm still waiting for your evidence for this happening in Kiev on Feb 21st 2014:
"a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics; especially: the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group"
"the sudden and illegal seizure of a state, usually instigated by a small group"
"A quick and decisive extra-legal seizure of governmental power by a relatively small but highly organized group of political or military leaders, typically by means of the unexpected arrest or assassination of the incumbent chief executive and his principal supporters within the government."
It's not personal. It's just war.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-lasvegas-crash-idUSKBN0U40X120151223
Lakeisha N. Holloway is still not a Muslim terrorist.
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Here we go again!
get your gear and start to spend here we go, here we go, here we go. As some sort of prototype I serve to be
you see tomorrow's dream has never been part of me
Everything you don't use will lose its value tomorrow consumed too much today, you can always borrow this paradigm's the best one since the day of creation
get your gear and shape up, this is the revelation
1 dead, Admiral Akbar attack part II? 37 injured after car plows into different groups of pedestrians on Las Vegas Strip
This to me seems like this was purposely done. Right outside the Miss universe contest and had to go through barriers to get to the people.
Witness's reporting that she aimed for the people and kept driving as people were bouncing off the hood of the car. 3 men rushed her car and tried to stop her and she pulled away. 3 year old in the back seat. At least Eye witness account Says she didnt even slow down.
News reporting counter terrorism is on the scene.
Young male was dragged as she drove away. Confirmed.
She sped up hit the first group, got back on the road sped up and hit a second group. She was aiming for people. Police say they're looking at it as intentional, says its not terrorism. Police confirm it happened at several locations . Suspect not from Nevada, drove a 1996 oldsmobile.
Yeah, well after hitting people on the sidewalk, this one turned around and went back to hit more people on the sidewalk. And accelerated. It's no accident. A lot of the victims were French-speaking. TV said something about maybe from Canada.
Take your bets here! Is it terrorism? Is it work place violence? Is it purely accidental?
Caitlyn Jenner confirmed in the area at time of incident...her penis was unhurt
We need stricter regulations on these assault car vehicles!!! Must be angry Southern white male? Ban drivers liscence or banning cars in certain States?
Local musing whether this was terrorism, Nooze or dinosaur mainstream news is waiting for them to fax the politically correct play book for news items.
Police say its not terrorism because shes a woman? Weird thought process from the police.
...anyways don't sound like no accident IMO
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Lakeisha N. Holloway is still not a Muslim terrorist.
I never said she was, at the very least she is an insane, violent freak who attempted mass murder...for whatever reason the medias head spun chasing its own tail
and for some reason the Cops went a bit hush hush, ....the Vegas Cops refused to mention her motive...Sheriff Joe Lombardo said he knew what she said but didn't want to release that information...again more Police refused to share information not comfortable disclosing what driver said about why she crashed into so many people on Las Vegas Strip...The sheriff said Holloway was stoic when police arrived but declined to elaborate on what she said....
...something seemed a bit funny about the reporting
but then again that's Lame-stream news for you
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No, you didn't SAY it, exactly - just kept on pointing out the possibility - repeatedly. Nowhere did you mention what turned out to be the case - Holloway was a woman who got stressed in a psychologically fragile place who just ... broke.
Admiral Akbar attack part II ... News reporting counter terrorism is on the scene. ... Local musing whether this was terrorism, Nooze or dinosaur mainstream news is waiting for them to fax the politically correct play book for news items.
Police say its not terrorism because shes a woman? Weird thought process from the police.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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