How truth is manufactured in the West

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JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, December 22, 2015 5:57 AM

Here we go again!

get your gear and start to spend here we go, here we go, here we go. As some sort of prototype I serve to be
you see tomorrow's dream has never been part of me

Everything you don't use will lose its value tomorrow consumed too much today, you can always borrow this paradigm's the best one since the day of creation
get your gear and shape up, this is the revelation

1 dead, Admiral Akbar attack part II? 37 injured after car plows into different groups of pedestrians on Las Vegas Strip
This to me seems like this was purposely done. Right outside the Miss universe contest and had to go through barriers to get to the people.

Witness's reporting that she aimed for the people and kept driving as people were bouncing off the hood of the car. 3 men rushed her car and tried to stop her and she pulled away. 3 year old in the back seat. At least Eye witness account Says she didnt even slow down.
News reporting counter terrorism is on the scene.
Young male was dragged as she drove away. Confirmed.
She sped up hit the first group, got back on the road sped up and hit a second group. She was aiming for people. Police say they're looking at it as intentional, says its not terrorism. Police confirm it happened at several locations . Suspect not from Nevada, drove a 1996 oldsmobile.
Yeah, well after hitting people on the sidewalk, this one turned around and went back to hit more people on the sidewalk. And accelerated. It's no accident. A lot of the victims were French-speaking. TV said something about maybe from Canada.
Take your bets here! Is it terrorism? Is it work place violence? Is it purely accidental?
Caitlyn Jenner confirmed in the area at time of incident...her penis was unhurt
We need stricter regulations on these assault car vehicles!!! Must be angry Southern white male? Ban drivers liscence or banning cars in certain States?
Local musing whether this was terrorism, Nooze or dinosaur mainstream news is waiting for them to fax the politically correct play book for news items.
Police say its not terrorism because shes a woman? Weird thought process from the police.

...anyways don't sound like no accident IMO

1KIKI

Tuesday, December 22, 2015 6:32 AM

quoted to prevent post-editing

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Here we go again!

get your gear and start to spend here we go, here we go, here we go. As some sort of prototype I serve to be
you see tomorrow's dream has never been part of me

Everything you don't use will lose its value tomorrow consumed too much today, you can always borrow this paradigm's the best one since the day of creation
get your gear and shape up, this is the revelation

1 dead, Admiral Akbar attack part II? 37 injured after car plows into different groups of pedestrians on Las Vegas Strip
This to me seems like this was purposely done. Right outside the Miss universe contest and had to go through barriers to get to the people.

Witness's reporting that she aimed for the people and kept driving as people were bouncing off the hood of the car. 3 men rushed her car and tried to stop her and she pulled away. 3 year old in the back seat. At least Eye witness account Says she didnt even slow down.
News reporting counter terrorism is on the scene.
Young male was dragged as she drove away. Confirmed.
She sped up hit the first group, got back on the road sped up and hit a second group. She was aiming for people. Police say they're looking at it as intentional, says its not terrorism. Police confirm it happened at several locations . Suspect not from Nevada, drove a 1996 oldsmobile.
Yeah, well after hitting people on the sidewalk, this one turned around and went back to hit more people on the sidewalk. And accelerated. It's no accident. A lot of the victims were French-speaking. TV said something about maybe from Canada.
Take your bets here! Is it terrorism? Is it work place violence? Is it purely accidental?
Caitlyn Jenner confirmed in the area at time of incident...her penis was unhurt
We need stricter regulations on these assault car vehicles!!! Must be angry Southern white male? Ban drivers liscence or banning cars in certain States?
Local musing whether this was terrorism, Nooze or dinosaur mainstream news is waiting for them to fax the politically correct play book for news items.
Police say its not terrorism because shes a woman? Weird thought process from the police.

...anyways don't sound like no accident IMO

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, December 22, 2015 7:52 AM

those charts again

says nothing about using your vehicle or car as a weapon...the poor media of Las Vegas will have to figure out this one by themselves

1KIKI

Tuesday, December 22, 2015 8:09 AM

quoted to avoid post-editing (removal)

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
those charts again

says nothing about using your vehicle or car as a weapon...the poor media of Las Vegas will have to figure out this one by themselves

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, December 22, 2015 4:37 PM

"Police say its not terrorism because shes a woman? Weird thought process from the police."
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Because all terrorists bring along their 3 year old kid whenever they're
going out on a rampage.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
quoted to prevent post-editing
Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Here we go again!

get your gear and start to spend here we go, here we go, here we go. As some sort of prototype I serve to be
you see tomorrow's dream has never been part of me

Everything you don't use will lose its value tomorrow consumed too much today, you can always borrow this paradigm's the best one since the day of creation
get your gear and shape up, this is the revelation

1 dead, Admiral Akbar attack part II? 37 injured after car plows into different groups of pedestrians on Las Vegas Strip
This to me seems like this was purposely done. Right outside the Miss universe contest and had to go through barriers to get to the people.

Witness's reporting that she aimed for the people and kept driving as people were bouncing off the hood of the car. 3 men rushed her car and tried to stop her and she pulled away. 3 year old in the back seat. At least Eye witness account Says she didnt even slow down.
News reporting counter terrorism is on the scene.
Young male was dragged as she drove away. Confirmed.
She sped up hit the first group, got back on the road sped up and hit a second group. She was aiming for people. Police say they're looking at it as intentional, says its not terrorism. Police confirm it happened at several locations . Suspect not from Nevada, drove a 1996 oldsmobile.
Yeah, well after hitting people on the sidewalk, this one turned around and went back to hit more people on the sidewalk. And accelerated. It's no accident. A lot of the victims were French-speaking. TV said something about maybe from Canada.
Take your bets here! Is it terrorism? Is it work place violence? Is it purely accidental?
Caitlyn Jenner confirmed in the area at time of incident...her penis was unhurt
We need stricter regulations on these assault car vehicles!!! Must be angry Southern white male? Ban drivers liscence or banning cars in certain States?
Local musing whether this was terrorism, Nooze or dinosaur mainstream news is waiting for them to fax the politically correct play book for news items.
Police say its not terrorism because shes a woman? Weird thought process from the police.

...anyways don't sound like no accident IMO

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, December 22, 2015 4:40 PM

A perfect example of manufactured "truth" from the West.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
quoted to avoid post-editing (removal)

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
those charts again

says nothing about using your vehicle or car as a weapon...the poor media of Las Vegas will have to figure out this one by themselves

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

THGRRI

Tuesday, December 22, 2015 10:29 PM

And then we have the way they control the Media in the East.

Journalistic death toll in Putin's Russia

"In 2011, three journalists dead (including newspaper editor Khadzhimurad Kamalov, shot 14 times as he left his office).

In 2010, two killed; in 2009, five more (including a young reporter from Novaya Gazeta, caught in a hail of bullets). Add four for 2008, one in 2007 and then 2006 as Anna Politkovskaya, the most famous victim of them all, is murdered.

But she wouldn't forget Yevgeny Gerasimenko – found in his Saratov flat with a plastic bag pulled over his head and computer missing – and nor should we.

Two Russian journalists died in 2005, and three in both 2004 and 2003; but 2002 was a wicked year, with eight lost (including Valery Ivanov, battling editor, shot in the head) and 2001 added another victim.

Putin's reign of power in 2000 began with six dead reporters and editors: a grim portent, looking back, of bad things to come."

Preston concludes: "He is elected time and again. Yet a free press seems to mean pitifully little to him. You investigate? You report? You die, unavenged."

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/mar/11/journalist-saf
ety-vladimir-putin

KPO

Tuesday, December 22, 2015 11:32 PM

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How did he rig the last election?

You set up a thread to discuss the Syrian and Ukrainian elections not one month ago. I guess discussion on Yanukovich rigging elections wasn't what you wanted to hear. Let me post it for you again:

Quote:
KPO:

"Compare that with Yanukovich's track record of holding elections - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20120888

The OSCE said the elections "were marked by the abuse of state resources, lack of transparency of campaign and party financing and the lack of balanced media coverage", and were a backwards step for democracy after the 2010 election held by the previous pro-Western government that was recognised as free and fair. "

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Were the elections to be held under international observation?

The 2012 elections were held under international observation, it didn't stop Yanukovich rigging them.

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And the NEXT elections - which bypassed a significant number of Ukrainians .... were so much fairer!

Yes that's right, the OSCE said exactly that! But you're right to condemn the Russians and the separatists for thwarting democratic elections in the areas they occupied. The human rights situations in those eastern territories is very bleak by all accounts, including the UN's.

Now, back to the evidence you can't provide:

Signy: Where is the evidence for this happening in Kiev on Feb 21st 2014:

"a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics; especially: the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group"

"the sudden and illegal seizure of a state,usually [but not always- SIGNY] instigated by a small group"

"A quick and decisive extra-legal seizure of governmental power by a relatively small but highly organized group of political or military leaders, typically by means of the unexpected arrest or assassination of the incumbent chief executive and his principal supporters within the government."

And kiki, didn't you have evidence of a coup as well? Armed men storming Yanukovich's residence?

It's not personal. It's just war.

1KIKI

Wednesday, December 23, 2015 9:36 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20120888

The OSCE said the elections "were marked by the abuse of state resources, lack of transparency of campaign and party financing and the lack of balanced media coverage", and were a backwards step for democracy after the 2010 election held by the previous pro-Western government that was recognised as free and fair. "

The article goes on to say
Two international observer missions gave much more positive assessments than the OSCE's.
The 56 members of the European Academy for Elections Observation, most of whom are European Parliament members, said the vote was held "in compliance with democratic norms". They called it "a good election, not perfect but clearly acceptable".
Observers from the ex-Soviet countries in the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) called the election "transparent and democratic".

Now, none of these reports is linked in the article (for SHAME!! BBC, it's the easiest thing in the world to do given your resources and that reporting the news IS YOUR JOB).

OSCE: http://www.osce.org/odihr/96675?download=true
EAEO: http://www.eaeo.eu/francais/wordpress/?p=160
CIS: http://connection.ebscohost.com/c/articles/82911864/cis-emo-finds-ukra
ines-parliamentary-elections-transparent

it didn't stop Yanukovich rigging them.

And here's where you - yet AGAIN! - cherry pick the small bit out of the article you yourself reference, and exclude the OTHER facts that it ALSO contained that would disprove your argument: for example, that two other international observer missions called it a good election.

And kiki, didn't you have evidence of a coup as well? Armed men storming Yanukovich's residence?

Actually, I didn't say 'STORMING'. So nice of you to put words in my mouth - AGAIN!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-28/ukraine-minister-accuses-russia-
of-armed-invasion/5291986
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10657109/Vikt
or-Yanukovych-leaves-behind-palace-monument-to-greed-and-corruption.html

So, back to the question at hand - with a democratic process in place and early elections scheduled - how do you justify a violent NON-DEMOCRATIC coup?

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

SIGNYM

Saturday, December 26, 2015 9:02 PM

KPO, since you manage to drag UKRAINE AND RUSSIA - YOUR FAVORITE OBSESSIONS OF THE MOMENT - INTO EVERY SINGLE THREAD THAT YOU POST IN, mostly irrelevantly, I copied it to a thread that is more in line with YOUR topic;
It's here:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60263&p=1#1
006262

When I have more time, I'll get around to discussing it with you, THERE. Right now, I have other topics that I'm pursuing.

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