Saudi Arabia: Foreign policy speculation
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Even your so-called CIVILIZED religions aren't.
CIVILIZED WORLD - don't misquote me
IF right now we were living in 1975 I might argue Cambodian terror monks, Camboadian terror communists and Pol Pots Theravada Buddhists were the greatest threat to humanity
IF we now were on a ship landing in Pre-Columbian Mesoamerican, our ships arriving from Spain and France into ancient lands of Mexico, Texas, Venezuela...and other Pre Colombian shores I might argue that Aztec religion with its culture of Child sacrifice and Human Sacrifice was the greatest crime on humanity
IF we were living in 1940 I might argue the German Occult, Germany's Nazi Social Fascists and German Christianity was the greatest threat to civilisation.
and although I have lived in the Western world and respect the West's democracy, scientific progress. I respect the West its humanity, its culture still I don't promote Christianity, I think the Roman Catholic churches, the Protestant faith, the Mormonism, Jehovah's all other these faiths all have corruption and none will fully recover from their corruption and scandals. Catholicism and Protestantism have killed each other across Europe, many years back they were killing each other by the thousands and thousands on the streets of Europe, they burned 'Witches', both faiths have abused children, taken abused girls and raped young boys, while British and Canadians and French and Australians and Americans and all allies fought Fascist German's the Catholic Church of Rome was to cowardly to stand up to Nazi German's and instead sided with the Nazis...the rape of boys, supporting the Third Reich this is something from which the Catholic church will never recover.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
You posted multiple videos of people saying MY RELIGION IS BETTER THAN THEIR RELIGION which I wasted enough time watching. If you didn't mean them as an argument against Islam, you shouldn't have posted any of them.
Let me post them again, once more I will post these videos
because it seems the videos didn't sink into your thick skull first time 'round
What 'religion' do you think these vids are promoting?
Is it Shinto religion? is it Wicca Witchcraft? Is it Baha'i or Sikhism?
tell me the religion these vids promote?
tell me what is their religion?
and although I use terms 'thick skull' I don't believe you are stupid. I know what I write is a shocker for some it breaks your reality and is quiet shocking to you
Around your skull there is a web of massmedia, radiowaves and tv...you have been programed to respond in certain ways to certain events, once you realize tv today is slightly more advanced, slightly more humane than tv Japan watched in 1940 or a little more advanced than tv and radio which German's watch in 1940s you will be able to break out of this Matrix like Neo or Keanu Reeves did in the movie....and yes Americans are programed by tv just like they were programed to believe Iraq had WMDs and brainwashed by tv to believe Iraq was connected to 911
People respond to me always thinking I am some bible belt gun nut Christian from the South...what if I told you I am not even American, if I said I wasn't a native English speaker, not even Christian...what if I told you I wasn't even 'white'....would you still continue your programmed narrative?
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There are many you failed to post again.
"Islam Ex Muslim Allah is a Gangster watch this you will leave Islam"
I'm a former Muslim Christian convert and my religion is better than theirs.
"Taqiyya and Jihad - - lying to non-believers"
"Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences.""
Yes, this post attributes to ISLAM the rantings of a few.
Watch this
then watch this
Romans 1:18 ESV
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.
John 3:36
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.
Isaiah 26:21
For behold, the Lord is coming out from his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity, and the earth will disclose the blood shed on it, and will no more cover its slain.
Ezekiel 25:17
I will execute great vengeance on them with wrathful rebukes. Then they will know that I am the Lord, when I lay my vengeance upon them.”
Nahum 1:2-6
The Lord is a jealous and avenging God; the Lord is avenging and wrathful; the Lord takes vengeance on his adversaries and keeps wrath for his enemies. The Lord is slow to anger and great in power, and the Lord will by no means clear the guilty. His way is in whirlwind and storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet. He rebukes the sea and makes it dry; he dries up all the rivers; Bashan and Carmel wither; the bloom of Lebanon withers. The mountains quake before him; the hills melt; the earth heaves before him, the world and all who dwell in it. Who can stand before his indignation? Who can endure the heat of his anger? His wrath is poured out like fire, and the rocks are broken into pieces by him.
Revelation 20:15
And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Then of course god deceives Abraham - “Take your son to the land of Moriah and kill your son there as a sacrifice for me. This must be Isaac, your only son, the one you love. Use him ..." But HEY! that's OK because - yanno - he's god.
And so on.
For every crackpot and extremist who seems to be interpreting the Quran to incite violence, I can find actual quotes from the Bible that are as bad, or worse.
And uh - you failed to notice that the extremist Army of God, the violent Buddhists, the genocidal Israelis are example from TODAY. MODERN TIMES. And yet, you seem focused on Islam as THE religion that needs to be wiped off the face of the earth.
You're crazy.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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Ok my mistake, so you are a f-ckingidiot
AND YOU LOST
you fall flat on your face, you cry and throw a hissy fit and all you hit is smoke and I laugh at you like a Zen Master would laugh at a baby having a little temper tantrum
you tried, you lost and now you look like a crybabybitch
Walk away from this one cos you're not winning
I post something against Islamism and immediately you hijack this thread to bash Christians, I don't give a fuck if you bash them DO IT
IT AMUSES ME, I find it funny
but do it in another thread and don't hijack this one with your Pro-Islamic Anti-Christian BS
There are other firefly threads, plenty of them out there for bashing those dumbass redneck Christian bible readers
The only reason I happen to post vids that seem to be from the -Christianrightwing or rednecks Christains is because almost NO ATHEIST WILL BASH ISLAM...most of them are too chickenshits
In the left movement you can find thousands and thousands of people who attack those Christian bible nuts
Yet there are only about 20 or so Atheists or Apostates who do attack Islam, people like Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Maher...but that's it....you've got this thing called radical Islam which censors criticism, death threats to South Park cartoonists, bombings, beheadings, whenever you need film to make a point against islam sadly you need to vist the rightwinger newscaster because the leftwing are too chicken to call out islamism, unfortunately for the liberals the right is winning this war of minds because its the right and not the left who are calling it correct on radical islam...often times the left are to spineless to call out Islamists
People would normally be allowed criticize suicide bombers, people would normally criticize mohammed a rapist mass murdering pedophile as a terrible human and yet they believe this man muhammed to be a prophet of 'God', Muslims are still adamant to their false belief that Allah was not a pagan god, the people would normally be encouraged to examine Islam, examine Mecca as historians and writers like Rushdie did, open up the books and examine its Pagan Moon God Al-Lat and the Sabians, Nabonidus, Babylonian, Hindu and Persian roots which come from pre-Islamic Arabia
blame Islamophillia, Qatar and Saudi money, blame regressive leftism and your dumbass party and your dumbass tv brainwashing
and yes I have read the history and done the math, and I think it is correct to call radical Islam the greatest threat to humanity, since its birth it has been eating people the 6th Century CE or BC as you Americans call it, 7th century BC - ?8th century....Islam has spread itself through violence...how do you think it left Mecca and spread into Libya, how did it spread to Turkey? Spread into Iran?
Do you think as some crazy Liberals do that Islam spread itself through kisses and flowers
Is that how Islam historically spread? It spread through bunny rabbits, hugs and happy colors and happy rainbows? Is that how you think Muslims sent their religion into other lands, flowers and kisses?
It is estimated that muslims and radical Islam may have killed upwards of 200+ Million People, yes think about that number for a second plus TWO HUNDRED MIL PERSONS killed by radical muslims
and while its true there are times when other religions have been a greater danger to humanity but currently its islamism that's winning the race for violence and depravity
Regressive lefts are killing the Democrats turning them into Dumbocrats
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"I post something against Islamism and immediately you hijack this thread to bash Christians ..."
Actually, I showed that there's extremism built into the bible, both the ot and the nt - with quotes! - and made the general case that every religion has its own brand of extremism built in. It's a fact. Sorry you can't deal with reality.
And I further made the points I've been making all along, that 1) the fact you (mostly) don't see Christians, Jews, Buddhists and others doing extreme things is because people ignore those inconvenient teachings (well, you do see Zionists doing a lot of extreme things - they're genocidal); and 2) you'll find people willing to take those extreme doctrines to the extreme in EVERY religion.
So - given that there's extremism built into every religion, and you'll find extremists willing to be extreme in every religion - why are you so focused on trying to wipe Islam specifically off the earth?
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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a quick lesson in the art of fighting without fighting not a video game Ryuko no Ken, yizhong yuyan yongyuan bugou
Did you ever wonder why the radical muslims hate and fear Salman Rushdie a 5' 7" and 130 lbs man, mere stature, soft manner, slightly balding, pudgy...why they fear him more than they fear 100 US Cruise missiles?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Sorry you can't deal with reality.
You're the one not dealing with reality, I have been on this forum a long, long time, way back before 2005, 2004 way, way back when it was once an Andromeda tribute website, the tv show firefly a mere subforum
and I have been bashing radical Chistians, I have been critical of the bible nuts for a long long time...it is you who can't deal with reality
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
trying to wipe Islam specifically off the earth?
Who says I want to kill any of them?
Maybe I don't want anyone dead, maybe I only want all the radical ones deported home to Mecca or whichever islamic hole they would enjoy to live?
Maybe I'm an old school Democrat? Connect with the people born in the FDR, MLK, de Gaulle, JFK eras? Maybe all I want is for political leaders to have a spine just as JFK spoke against communism?
Maybe I don't want a single cruise missile wasted on some idiot on a camel, maybe the wacky religion can be broke with South Park cartoons and Salman Rushdie books
Are you getting the picture yet?
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"Maybe I don't want anyone dead"
Well, I didn't say MUSLIMS, which would be directed at people and would involve death --- I said ISLAM. Here: "And yet, you seem focused on ISLAM as THE religion that needs to be wiped off the face of the earth" and here: "why are you so focused on trying to wipe ISLAM specifically off the earth?" Do you understand the difference?
Your posts are anti-Islam.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Your posts are anti-Islam.
Take a second analyzing your own writing, your own person with the potential for individual thought, have time to do a little quick objective self criticism. Step outside your self for a moment and think about what you said here
....will reply later
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support muslims who make a joke of the faith.....at its core it has very shakey foundations
that is an Islam problem
not an all have shakey foundation problem ... its an Islam problem
this backward barabaric islamic faith
and much, much more.
So, why do you think Islam is so bad compared to the teachings of other religions and the actions of their most dedicated adherents?
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FINALLY! Someone is speculating.... well, even more than speculating ... about the deep-state politics behind our so-called policies in the Mideast (and elsewhere)
Seymour Hersh Bombshell: US Military Shared Intelligence With Assad In Defiance Of Obama, CIA
This is a very long article, which I've quoted extensively and linked. According to Hersch, there is a very deep division between the CIA and the formal military - so much so that our military provided intelligence to the German, Israeli, and Russian militaries, who were to pass that on the the Syrian military.
Hersch references both his previous articles and other events in support of his article, many of which I've tracked through regular world reportage. In addition, he obtained high-level interviews of participants and observers to stitch this all together into a narrative.
The parts that I've tracked thru the press ...
The "rat line" of supplies from Qatar and Saudi Arabia thru Turkey to the "freedom-loving" "Arab Spring" "pro-democracy" "rebels" in Libya, from too many sources to cite, some VERY specific, about the numbers of planeloads of arms and where they came from, clocked thru Turkish airports. There is NO irony too heavy-handed for the clusterfuck of deep-state actors pushing western-exceptionalist liberals into supporting jihadist terrorists under the banner of R2P, and creating a jihadist-laden, desperately broken, smoking ruin where once a secular and prosperous nation once stood. If R2Pers haven't learned anything from Libya (or Iraq), they are irremediably brainwashed and it's doubtful they will EVER learn anything outside of their own narrow ideology. (KPO, THUGR, G)
But I digress. The point is that these arms shipments were reported in the press, and CERTAINLY known to the major militaries and intelligence units within the western powers. After Libya fell, there was another "rat line" established through Bengahzi, trans-shipping arms from Libya, once again through Turkey, to Syria. Our "poor innocent" Ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens, was almost certainly directly involved, as his personal calendar places him at the CIA's operations center -
Quote:. I've posted about many times about Turkey's, Saudi Arabia's, and Qatar's roles in the teaching, training, funding, and arming of jihadists MANY TIMES here.
On 11 September 2012 the US ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens, was killed during an anti-American demonstration that led to the burning down of the US consulate in Benghazi; reporters for the Washington Postfound copies of the ambassador’s schedule in the building’s ruins. It showed that on 10 September Stevens had met with the chief of the CIA’s annex operation. The next day, shortly before he died, he met a representative from Al-Marfa Shipping and Maritime Services, a Tripoli-based company which, the JCS adviser said, was known by the Joint Staff to be handling the weapons shipments.
The false-flag SARIN GAS ATTACK IN GHOUTA, helpfully arranged by Turkey, was also a topic of many posts HERE.
Even KPO acknowledged at one point the significant intervention by the CIA in Syria. In a discussion about WHAT "moderate rebels"?, with the revelation that only five had been officially trained, as I recall KPO referenced the "hundreds of thousands" of CIA secretly-trained "rebels" in Syria. It was a backwards acknowledgement that the CIA has broad operations there.
Turkey's shipments to jihadists in Syria are also well-known and fairly widely reported (at least, in world news), and I've certainly posted about THAT many times.
In addition, the whistleblower letter of protest, signed by about 50 Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) analysts, protesting the "whitewashing" of their reports on the deteriorating situation in Syria, as well as a 2011 DIA analysis of the potential growth of a independent jihadist state with continued
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