How truth is manufactured in the West
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Sunday, May 3, 2026 22:46
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"Wrong again. That's just your meme, your programing."
He said without a shred of evidence.
As always.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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"Wrong again. That's just your meme, your programing."- GSTRING
He said without a shred of evidence.- KIKI
Speaking of over-used, unsubstantiated memes...- GSTRING
And there is GSTRING: Providing the very evidence he claims doesn't exist.
Adding to the pile of crap, son?
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Wow, all you can do is parrot people?
I'm sorry that you feel that the statement (about people running screaming from the truth with their hands over their ears) was personally directed at you. It's a pretty common phenomenon across the board (not THIS board, ALL boards) even yours truly is subject to it.
I mostly post here what I believe to be is true i.e. correspondent to reality (altho I do post specifically without comment some items just for discussion). I've spent a great deal of time thinking about things and attempting to dig into what's REALLY going on, but I also know that there's no way I can see all of reality. Therefore, I appreciate my ideas being challenged. But by "challenged" I don't mean with bullshit, invective, and prejudice tossed in my direction, I mean RIGOROUSLY challenged, with evidence and logic. That's the point of discussion, isn't it? (Unless you just want your prejudices stroked, that is.)
It seems to me that if you want to know what's REALLY happening, you would be intent on eliminating your own biases, not protecting them. So, do you want to know what's really going on? Or not?
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You clearly have a pro-western, "exceptionalist" bias. If you don't know what that means, the end result is that you think the rules that apply to "everyone else" don't apply to the west. You weigh facts and events on a very uneven scale ... even if there are awful events of equal import, it's TERRIBLE when "someone else" (especially Russia, or Russian-backed) does it, and worth only a remark or two when "we" do it. You place "isms" ... your "isms" particularly ... on a weightier scale than actual living human beings.
For example, you're in a complete froth about "Russia invades Ukraine" (have been unable to demonstrate that it's a true invasion instead of a rebellion, or how that's necessarily a bad thing for the people living there) but except for -literally- one (maybe two) sentences, you have no comment to make about the fact that Kiev is shelling urban centers and has killed over 9000 people (German intelligence says 50,000) by now and displaced millions.
Now, I'm willing to discuss the effect of invasions (or interference/ intervention, which I think is more the model) disrespecting national boundaries, which is one of the reasons for a Ukraine/ Syria point to point comparison.
Turkey (with Saudi/Qatari/American backing) has followed the same model in Syria as Russia in Ukraine: porous border for refugees in one direction and foreign-born military men in the other, arms and weapons flowing to "friendly" combatants, treatment of "friendly" wounded in national hospitals, trade and aid, intelligence sharing, etc. But there are important differences too, which I'm not going to discuss here.
The point being that instead of simply counting the bodies ... is this nation/ group doing more harm than good?.... you tend to give a free ride to western "intervention" no matter how destructive or improperly motivated.
Now, the original point of this thread was "How truth is manufactured in the West" and rather than making you, with your incessant narcissism, the subject of YET ANOTHER thread, I'm not going to discuss YOU any further. If you have any intelligent comments on anything OTHER THAN YOU, I'd be happy to talk about them.
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"Adding to the pile of crap, son?"
Maybe he thinks that if he keeps piling it on, instead of becoming a bigger and bigger pile of crap it will magically turn into non-crap.
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Really!? Bush didn't lie about WMDs, and the media, on all sides, wasn't complicit. They weren't foaming at the mouth to "present" Cheney's, er...I mean, Bush's case.
Well..........you're entitled to your opinion, my friend.
I see things differently.
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Those aren't lies of the W administration, but red herrings and misinformation, by the Left.
Swing and miss.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
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Talking about truth being 'manufactured' in the West, but using obscure examples from decades ago. Says it all really.
If I wanted to point out truth being 'manufactured' in Russian media, I wouldn't have to go back more than a couple of weeks.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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Talking about truth being 'manufactured' in the West, but using obscure examples from decades ago. Says it all really.
If I wanted to point out truth being 'manufactured' in Russian media, I wouldn't have to go back more than a couple of weeks.- KPO
There's KPO and his obsession again.
You just can't stop talking about Russia, can you KPO? It's like, when you get your ass handed to you in one thread, http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa-oil-idUSKBN
0TT2O120151210 you hop to another with more ridiculous talking points.
OK, manufactured truth, from the west, that's more recent than "decades" ago:
1) Qaddafi "massacring his own people".
2) Assad using Sarin gas on his own people. (It wasn't "decades" ago, despite the fact that you would like people to think so.)
3) (Lack of) Information about Turkey's and the Saudi's support for ISIL.
4) KPO, with this post, trying to convince people that this is a long-ago problem in western media.
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KPO- on any day, son, I can read western media and find another whopper. And I just found one. Look, here it is, in Reuters:
Quote:Because, yanno, US government officials would never lie!
Islamic State militants have made more than $500 million trading oil with significant volumes sold to the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and some finding its way to Turkey, a senior U.S. Treasury official said on Thursday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa-oil-idUSKBN
0TT2O120151210
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
KPO- on any day, son, I can read western media and find another whopper.
The problem with you comrade SIG is that you have a cancer called Mother Russia. This is a quote of Putin’s as the Berlin Wall was coming down.
“Moscow is silent.’ I realized that the Soviet Union was ill. It was a fatal illness called paralysis. A paralysis of power. “
Putin’s Soviet Union was collapsing and he has been trying to rebuild it ever since. He has worked diligently to reconstruct the stifling presence of government over its people. He is recreating a Constitutional Monarchy. Supposedly independent institutions of his Republic that are apparently subordinated to him the Tsar. And, he is once again expanding Russia’s borders covertly hiding behind the hostilities of its outgoing migrant population. Georgia and the Ukraine being the obvious examples.
When compared to the United States and the west Russia shows itself to be riddled with disease. It’s why you spend most of your waking moments searching out ways of attacking America. Posting a story of police brutality here and suggesting something sinister may be going on there. The title of this thread is laughable and yet distressing. It shows you again casting America and the west as flawed by suggesting their news outlets spew anything but the truth. All, in an attempt to deflect from Russia’s disastrous state controlled media.
The problem you keep running up against in your scrutiny of the United States and the west, is that the two philosophies, the west and Russia's aren’t comparable, so your disease metastasizes. Your need to hold Russia up as a bastion of a free society grows. Yet Russia falls further and further behind the rest of the civilized world in the pursuit of morals and honoring human rights. It is backsliding to its past which is why YOU’RE HERE and NOT THERE. No one choses less for themselves SIG and neither did you.
Not to worry though, I am not your biggest threat when it comes to revealing your psychosis or disclosing your mania, delusions and distorted perceptions of reality. No SIG, it is Putin’s pursuits of reestablishing a world order that locks people behind walls to keep them from escaping that exposes your posts as schizophrenic. Putin’s propaganda flows into your head which you carry like a vessel till you deliver it onto these threads. Yet Putin’s deeds paint a completely different reality for those who can express free thought and it is there you are revealed.
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