How truth is manufactured in the West

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Rappy often says that science isn't determined by consensus. Well, neither is truth.... or, for that matter, reality. Just because everyone believes/thinks they know something doesn't mean its true. At one time everyone knew that the earth was flat. Why? Because that's what everyone knew. All you had to do was go look out your door and there is was: a flat earth. It's obvious!

So to me, it doesn't matter if people "on my side"- whatever that is- disagree with me. Or if people "on YOUR side" disagree with me. Hell, I don't care if EVERYONE disagrees with me. Why not?? Because, as I said, reality isn't determined by sides, it isn't determined by consensus. Its like arguing what 2+2 equals: it's pointless.

You've been pretty quiet about Syria (and Libya, and Iraq) but you've also been blazingly wrong. You're falling once again into the pattern of behavior which will allow people to ask (again) You present yourself as such as master-mind of history, but where were YOU when this all started? Why didn't YOU speak up? Why didn't YOU see what was happening, and what was coming?

So, here I am, speaking up. I've asked for - and hunted down- information, I've made my observations, I've brought data to the table, I've made my predictions, I've made my moral reaction very clear. Time and events will tell whether I was right or wrong- not opinions voiced today.

Once again, if you disagree with me- as I know you do- I welcome the discussion. But please bring something to the table other than "obvious" opinion.

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So to me, it doesn't matter if people "on my side"- whatever that is- disagree with me. Or if people "on YOUR side" disagree with me. Hell, I don't care if EVERYONE disagrees with me. Why not?? Because, as I said, reality isn't determined by sides, it isn't determined by consensus.

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Apparently it's determined by what YOU believe.

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You've been pretty quiet about Syria (and Libya, and Iraq) but you've also been blazingly wrong. You're falling once again into the pattern of behavior which will allow people to ask (again) You present yourself as such as master-mind of history, but where were YOU when this all started? Why didn't YOU speak up? Why didn't YOU see what was happening, and what was coming?

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This is why. I get tired of lectures from Ms. Know-it-all.

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Once again, if you disagree with me- as I know you do- I welcome the discussion. But please bring something to the table other than "obvious" opinion.

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What do I disagree with you about? That in Syria, Egypt, Venezuela, Libya, Ukraine, Russia, etc. there are no good guys, maybe just less bad guys, depending on the day? that people fighting for their cause - whether it be good or ill - will use propaganda as well as other means to win?


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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This is why. I get tired of lectures from Ms. Know-it-all.

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Well, if you keep bringing tired-old ad hominens (like you just did) and strawmen and appeals to authority and all of the other rhetorical tricks that you normally use in place of intelligent and honest discussion to the table, you'll get the response that you've been getting. Here's the question: Are you interested in finding out what's REALLY going on? Or do you only want to keep justifying your pre-set understandings?

Yanno- blue pill or red pill?

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Well, if you keep bringing tired-old ad hominens (like you just did) and strawmen and appeals to authority and all of the other rhetorical tricks that you normally use in place of intelligent and honest discussion to the table, you'll get the response that you've been getting. Here's the question: Are you interested in finding out what's REALLY going on? Or do you only want to keep justifying your pre-set understandings?

Yanno- blue pill or red pill?

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This is why. I get tired of lectures from Ms. Know-it-all.




"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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I get tired of lectures from Ms. Know-it-all.

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You don't seem to mind them from rappy, though. Heck, HE tells people all the time how wrong they all are, and how right he is, and how nobody else knows "the truth" except him and maybe a few of his fellow right-wingers. Every post, he brings up the blue pill-red pill analogy. And you're OK with that. Am I right? Well, at least you've never complained before about what a know-it-all rappy is!



Yanno, everybody here is a know-it-all. Whenever someone posts their opinion, they are implicitly saying that they believe it to be correct. (Unless they're being trolls and sockpuppets, but that's another story.) The question is- Are they willing to discuss their opinion? Are they willing to change their minds as a result of that discussion? If not- what does that say about them?

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This really deserves a separate thread- or at least a separate post if it's own, but seeing as that "unknown error" message is coming up at nearly every attempt to post, this will have to do as an edit to the previous post:

WOW there've been a lot of leaked conversations, haven't there?

1) Nuland picking the winners and losers in Ukraine (Oh, and "Fuck the EU")


2) Estonian Minister Paet passing along the evidence/suspicion that the Maidan sniper-fire actually came from pro-Western provocateurs.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/05/ukraine-bugged-call-cathe
rine-ashton-urmas-paet

3) Yulia Tymoshenko wanting to nuke Russians...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/03/25/in-latest
-wiretapping-leak-yulia-tymoshenko-appears-to-say-nuclear-weapons-should-be-used-to-kill-russians/


4) Turkish PM Erdogan instructing his son to dispose of ill-gotten gains
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/25/leaked-tapes-calls-erdoga
n-resign-turkish-pm

Well, here comes a leaked conversation worthy of a PirateNews post:

TURKEY PLANNED FALSE FLAG ATTACK FROM SYRIA
A leaked conversation between head of Turkish Intelligence and the Turkish Foreign Minister, planning to attack Turkey from the Syrian side of the border as a cause for war:

Ahmet Davutolu “Prime Minister said that in current conjuncture, this attack (on Suleiman Shah Tomb) must be seen as an opportunity for us.”

Hakan Fidan “I’ll send 4 men from Syria, if that’s what it takes. I’ll make up a cause of war by ordering a missile attack on Turkey; we can also prepare an attack on Suleiman Shah Tomb if necessary.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-27/here-youtube-false-flag-attac
k-syria-clip-erdogan-wanted-banned
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/turkey-youtube-ban-full-transcript-leaked-syr
ia-war-conversation-between-erdogan-officials-1442161

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FWIW, not knowing how to "make money"... I don't either. All I know how to do, really, is work and save. I think the big "money-makers" like Soros and Diamon and Gates are dishonest sociopaths anyway, so not being in on the hustle is a good thing, in my book anyway.

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Soros funded

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Trump was quoting Drudge, on Savage radio and talking with Alex Jones....you can say what you like about Trump he does have flaws, he has some mistakes but he will speak his mind and he ain't tv mainstream

Biggs

deep inside the Catskill Mountains of New York

named it "Holy Islamberg"

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Sorry. Iraq invaded because our diplomat said the US wouldn't intervene.

The incubator story was entirely fabricated. If you have actual proof of atrocities, post it up. It still doesn't justify what the US did.

The actual facts about the incident in Venezuela are best deconstructed in this documentary. You get actual footage that proves what was really going on.


Looks like it won't load. Google "The Revolution won't be Televised."

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Try removing the 's' in the ' https';.



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