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KPO
Tuesday, October 6, 2015 2:57 AM

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So, you want the US to bomb Assad in a strategy that you admit clearly doesn't make things better?

Have I said that, or have I in fact been arguing the opposite?

Which one of these countries is in a better state, Libya or Syria? And in which one of those countries did the US bomb the regime to cause its downfall?

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an author - one who spends EVERY article criticizing Russia, and criticizing ONLY Russia - the author is one who clearly has an agenda.

No, it means that he's the journalist who covers that part of the world. Has Russia done anything over the past 2 years that warrants criticism? Hmm, let me think...

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, October 6, 2015 4:40 AM

'G'

SO - when Signy posted about how the CIA was helping terrorists, you posted this: I found it interesting that this was reported in ALL (ahem!) MSM "CIA + rebels" - how is that possible if they are all controlled by TPTB?

When it was pointed out to you that the news stories YOU were referring to were dated ONLY since Russia's involvement, and not in the MSM before then, you posted a SINGLE story from the WSJ.

And when it was pointed out to you that the WSJ is not MSM you said WSJ is not one of your "operated and run by TPTB?".

I see you've taken a lesson from your hubby and master when it comes to strawman arguments. NO ONE defined MSM here as "operated and run by TPTB". So, who are you "quoting"? The voices in your head?

So thanks for lying - again.

And this: Congress debates ... Yes Congress DEBATED a lot of things in 2014. But passed - NOTHING about helping out those poor 'moderate' Al-Qæda rebels in Syria.

Did you have a point that the US helping Al-Qæda is old news and so we should have expected the CIA in Syria? (Except, according to the records, without approval and without funding ...) * ... Apparently not.

* So yeah - the CIA ALREADY in Syria WITHOUT Congressional approval and WITHOUT legal funding - that's a big deal.




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Tuesday, October 6, 2015 8:34 AM

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an author - one who spends EVERY article criticizing Russia, and criticizing ONLY Russia - the author is one who clearly has an agenda.



Sounds like Sig and 1kiki going on and on about America does it not. Like many of us here have said. They have an agenda. It's nice to see them admit that only criticizing the same country all the time is prof of an agenda.

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Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:27 AM


THUGGR
Humanitarian. (snicker)

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58208&p=5

THUGGR
Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:10 PM
... The message of Adam Smith resonates strongly with the Chinese ...

Kiki
Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:20 PM
... and yet the greatest gains in life expectancy in China - for women from 45 to 63, and for men from 44 to 64 - came between the years 1950 and 1972.

THUGGR
Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:21 PM
Your (sic) a fucking moron: who gives a shit?





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KPO
Tuesday, October 6, 2015 8:29 PM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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an author - one who spends EVERY article criticizing Russia, and criticizing ONLY Russia - the author is one who clearly has an agenda.



Sounds like Sig and 1kiki going on and on about America does it not. Like many of us here have said. They have an agenda. It's nice to see them admit that only criticizing the same country all the time is prof of an agenda.


Ha, good point.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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KPO
Tuesday, October 6, 2015 8:36 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This belongs on the shelf, along with "The separatists in Ukraine are shelling themselves"


Still trying to convince everyone that I said a quote that you made up, Sig? Pretty desperate.

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You're usually so careful about your "sources"!


Well I won't post videos from neo-Nazi sites like you, that's for sure.


It's not personal. It's just war.

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Wednesday, October 7, 2015 11:01 PM


THGRRI Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:38 AM

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Once again our resident troll sock puppet, when presented with the analysis of a world-class economist, posted nothing of intelligence or even mild interest in response, and posted absolutely nothing to substantiate the mental diarrhea it tries to pretend is discussion. I really do wonder what passes for a brain in it.




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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Why look at China and India 1kiki when they are both playing catch up with us. When both had to abandon what they were doing and adapt our approach to business. You should remember that both did the same thing in attracting business. They gave state assisted Education to many of its citizens while we have to incur large debts to educate ourselves, thus our need to demand higher wages. That along with state assisted medical which is a big burden to business in this country. Other than that it is us that built up their countries by moving our jobs there.




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....1kiki

The biggest point you are apparently unable to take away from the story is that “Quality of Life: India vs. China” is that what’s behind improving conditions in both countries is their enhanced practice of capitalism.


Thgrri

Because it is a distraction from the point and wants to suggest that we should think more like the Chinese and or India because they are becoming more successful and or have better philosophies. Ignoring the fact that they are climbing out of the gutter by riding on our backs, along with Europe. They are doing well because much of our economy (jobs)shifted to those countries. (cheep labor)

When Thomas Freedman asked some India officials what is the United States supposed to do with all it's jobs migrating to India? They responded by saying the United States should do what it always does. Create the jobs of the future.



si shen




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Wednesday, October 7, 2015 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by kpo:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This belongs on the shelf, along with "The separatists in Ukraine are shelling themselves"


Still trying to convince everyone that I said a quote that you made up, Sig? Pretty desperate.

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You're usually so careful about your "sources"!


Well I won't post videos from neo-Nazi sites like you, that's for sure.


It's not personal. It's just war.



Sig and 1kiki misrepresent what others say all the time. It is the only way they have of fighting back. This is because what they chose to promote is always flawed and laced with bullshit.

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Wednesday, October 7, 2015 11:16 PM


Saturday, June 28, 2014 7:22 PM


THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!





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….1kiki
I have a three-fold problem with the article you linked.


Thr
That is because you do not understand the point of the article and why I chose to post it as a response to signym. No surprise there.


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…..signym
A new shorthand has entered common parlance: guojin mintui, meaning the state [sector] advances and the private retreats. It seems to suggest that the state sector's share of the economy is growing,

Is it capitalist economy?


Thr
Meaning China


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….1kiki
- One is that they don't actually talk about standard of living for the country as a whole. Metrics that are impossible to move unless you make improvements for the vast majority of the population are lifespan, female lifespan, literacy, vaccination rates, and infant mortality.


Thr
This is not relevant to the point I was addressing with the article. This is what you do. Spin things off.


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…..1kiki
- Another is that they don't provide a definition of what they consider capitalism. Without that definition it's hard to reconcile the fact that the government entirely owns the vital energy, basic manufacturing, healthcare and financial sectors with the description 'capitalist'.


Thr
Perhaps they figured you had some understanding of what capitalism means because most people do. If you don’t understand how China is weaving capitalism into its finical system that is sad because it has been explained in many venues for more than a decade. If you don’t understand how India’s economy has benefited in recent years through capitalistic pursuits that too indicates a staggering ignorance of the subject.


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…..1kiki
You referenced a paper that failed to demonstrate either your claims or even its OWN conclusions, you didn't demonstrate that India improved its standard of living for the masses or how capitalism can be linked to it, and you haven't explained why the people of one country are vastly better off than the people of another.


Thr
This article is from the Cato Institute. That you would suggest they failed to make proper arguments to support their own conclusions has me rolling on the floor in laughter.

Let’s get right to it shall we;

Thr
The article I referenced was in response to signym suggesting China had not adopted capitalism and has absolutely nothing to do with the questions you have posted about it. Nothing, but hey, that’s what you do, is it not?

“Over the past 35 years, China has embraced capitalism not just in the economy. The Theory of Moral Sentiments has more than a dozen Chinese translations; the book has won the heart and mind of premier Wen Jiabao. The message of Adam Smith resonates strongly with the Chinese, not least because of its striking affinity with the traditional Chinese thinking on economy and society. A surprising outcome of China’s transition to capitalism is that China has found a way back to its own cultural roots”.

http://www.cato.org/policy-report/januaryfebruary-2013/how-china-becam
e-capitalist


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…1kiki
And FINALLY, and most importantly, you've failed entirely to address the topic of this thread - the shortcomings of capitalism as an economy and as value system.


Thr
This thread was a bitch fest and attack against capitalism by some who live in a fantasy world. Who say things like we need to do away with all private banks and give complete control to the government.

"At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a Mrs. Powel anxiously awaited the results, and as Benjamin Franklin emerged from the long task now finished, asked him directly: "Well Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" "A republic if you can keep it" responded Franklin."

So you are right, I did not join in but instead have shown you and others to be completely unsophisticate

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Thursday, October 8, 2015 9:33 AM

There's plenty more of our conversation still to cut and paste moron.


Good. Feel free to waste your time. My job here is done.




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