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SIGNYM

Friday, October 2, 2015 6:04 PM

Yes, it was darkly amusing to hear Obozo call for nations to respect "human rights" and sovereignty, even after the USA killed hundreds of thousands (if not a million) people in the mideast, destroyed three nations, and was STILL calling for "regime change" for a fourth nation (Syria)!

The irony was not lost on me either.

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BTW- by either conveniently forgetting USA misdeeds ... or deliberately failing to mention them .... you paint a VERY flattering picture of the USA.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

SIGNYM

Friday, October 2, 2015 6:30 PM

GSTRING, I quoted you in my post, where you said:

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I say you don't answer my questions and you call me a liar. So I prove you wrong ten times in this thread alone - GSTRING

Nothing about "points" in there!

Now, you COULD say that I posted-edited that word ("points") out, since it was the text that I had access to. On the other hand, I COULD say that you post-edited the word "points" in to your threads, since that was the text that YOU had access to.

GSTRING, your "points", or questions, or whatever you want to call them, aren't worth addressing, for the most part.

You asked me if I was honest. That's a question worth answering?

You wondered whether people in Assad-controlled parts of Syria feel free to answer polls honestly, when (1) many polls are conducted by international organizations and Assad likely has no way of finding out what was said, and (2) by comparison, pollsters can't even operate in ISIS-controlled areas for fear of death.

On the other hand, you made what I thought was a significant point that in your view, there are no solutions in the middle east.

My question to you, was that - based on your own statement - should ANY foreign nation be interfering in the ME, whether bombing, or invading, or creating no-fly zones, or "safe" zones, or what-have-you.

And you refuse to expand on your very own point.

One might think that you were so focused on arguing against Russian interference that you failed to notice that your argument would apply to western nations as well... and the west has been interfering in the ME for decades. And because you were so completely blindsided by your focus on RUSSIA, you actually refuse to discuss where your very own (biased) logic has taken you. At least, that's what I get out of it. Unless you clarify otherwise.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

SIGNYM

Friday, October 2, 2015 6:47 PM

There are continuing rumors that Chinese ships are waiting on the Mediterranean. What they're waiting for, according to these rumors, is either a request from Assad for help, or a request from the Russians, before they enter Syrian waters.

There is a coalition of Iran, Syria, Russia, Hezbollah, and Iraq is sharing information with this group. Potentially China and the Kurds could join as well.

It occurred to me that we could get to see how much against this alliance Obama really is by whether or not he re-introduces sanctions on Iran, since it's Iran that's providing the largest "boots on the ground" component.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

SIGNYM

Friday, October 2, 2015 6:56 PM

New York Times story that Russians aren't bombing ISIS locations is contradicted by ... the BBC:

New York Times (9/30/15)

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A Syrian opposition activist network, the Local Co-ordination Committees, said Russian warplanes hit five towns—Zafaraneh, Rastan, Talbiseh, Makarmia and Ghanto—resulting in the deaths of 36 people, including five children.
None of the areas targeted were controlled by IS, activists said.

BBC (9/30/15)

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The Islamic State jihadist group executed nine men and a boy it accused of being gay in central and northern Syria on Monday, a monitoring group said.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the jihadists shot dead seven men in Rastan, a town in Homs province of central Syria, “after accusing them of being homosexual.”

That puts into question either the NYT and the "activists" that it's quoting, or the BBC. I'd put my money on the "activists" being jihadists and the NYT being dishonest or careless, but maybe that's just me.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

SIGNYM

Friday, October 2, 2015 7:36 PM

Also, I found this headline funny!

With One Bombing Run Russia Gets the US to Acknowledge CIA’s 'Covert' Regime Change Forces

Apparently, the parts being bombed that weren't ISIS were CIA. Whooda thunk???
/snicker

I think it's kinda creepy ... in a squirmy sort of way ... how Obama pretends that the CIA hasn't been attempting "regime change" in Syria for at least four years. The various USA administrations have told so many lies, they can't keep their story straight anymore. I'll bet if you could find a a few thousand REAL "moderate rebels" in Syria, you'd be lucky. Russia is doing what Putin said it would do: Supporting the Assad government and fighting terrorist. From that POV it doesn't matter if they're fighting ISIS or the CIA or Saudi Arabia or Turkey or al Qaida or al Nusra.

There's a great deal to be gained from simply saying what you do and doing what you say. Too bad that USA administrations can't afford to do that.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

THGRRI

Saturday, October 3, 2015 5:43 AM

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It was darkly amusing to hear Putin on Charlie Rose talking about the need to protect and respect the sanctity of the current Syrian government... #loadedwithobviousandpurposefulirony Who knew he was a stand-up?

Once again SIG's response to you has nothing to do with what you posted. You posted about what Putin said and she posts a subjective response. I wonder how many are ready to admit she is not American. That she is nothing but a troll with the mission of propaganda against the U.S..

THGRRI

Saturday, October 3, 2015 6:22 AM

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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by G:
It was darkly amusing to hear Putin on Charlie Rose talking about the need to protect and respect the sanctity of the current Syrian government... #loadedwithobviousandpurposefulirony Who knew he was a stand-up?

Once again SIG's response to you has nothing to do with what you posted. You posted about what Putin said and she posts a subjective response. I wonder how many are ready to admit she is not American. That she is nothing but a troll with the mission of propaganda against the U.S..

What's funny is she spouts that endlessly here of all places, where there's like what, 10 people? She's a horrible recruiter. But then again I don't think she needs much if any audience - as long as she can read what she posts that's all that matters.

I also think she and 1kiki are responsible for driving away so many that used to post here. With those two it is the same story over and over again. America bad and it's thread after thread started by those two saying it. It gets redundant and people not looking to constantly battle mostly move on. Some stay because they are Firefly fans and like coming to the site but for the most part everything posted here by those two is bad news in the form of attacks. They have spread a disease here. They are two very sick females. It's very apparent they are miserable.

1KIKI

Saturday, October 3, 2015 9:04 AM

kpo

"Lol, yes, God forbid peaceful and stable Syria become another Libya..."

So, I'm reading my way down, and I gotta ask - what's so good about Libya today?

http://www.activistpost.com/2015/01/pentagon-hillarys-push-for-war-in-
libya.html
Pentagon: Hillary’s Push For War In Libya Was Based on ”Stupid Facts”
NATO’s 2011 air-bombing assault on Libya turned the most successful country in Africa into a failed state now run by terrorists.
If the result of this so-called humanitarian intervention wasn’t bad enough, it appears that our leaders lied to sell this war to the public, again.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/libya
Ban Ki-moon calls for Libya peace deal as factions miss ceasefire deadline
UN secretary general appeals for end to fighting as experts fear looming humanitarian disaster

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

1KIKI

Saturday, October 3, 2015 9:17 AM

Some direct links drawn between the Assad regime and ISIS: https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2014/09/03/provocation-and-the-isl
amic-state-why-assad-strengthened-the-jihadists/

And who is Kyle Orton, exactly. Oh he writes exclusively for the National Review.
"National Review (N.R.) is a semimonthly magazine founded by author William F. Buckley, Jr., in 1955 and based in New York City. It describes itself as "America's most widely read and influential magazine and web site for conservative news, commentary, and opinion."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Review

Yeah, no bias there!

"Russia Is Sending Jihadis to Join ISIS" - http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/23/russia-s-playing-a-do
uble-game-with-islamic-terror0.html

And Michael Weiss? With Exposing Russia’s Secret Army in Syria, Russia Puts Boots on the Ground in Syria, Russia Is Sending Jihadis to Join ISIS, Robert Conquest, the Man Who Unearthed the Big Soviet Lie, and Putin Sends Dirty War Forces to Syria http://www.thedailybeast.com/contributors/michael-weiss.html to his name, I have no problems believing he is as described: Michael Weiss, Pro-Israel Neocon ... http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2012/01/12/michael-weiss-pro-israel-
neocon-authors-blueprint-for-western-military-intervention-in-syria-approved-by-syrian-ex-pats/

Why you put your trust in skanks is beyond me.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

KPO

Saturday, October 3, 2015 6:10 PM

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So, I'm reading my way down, and I gotta ask - what's so good about Libya today?

Compared to Syria? Everything. If you can't see that, then there's no hope for you.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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