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Joss' Universe desktop & argument stopper
Saturday, September 10, 2005
First, my apologies for pinching this off Page 12 of "Serenity, The Official Visual Companion". Save my soul from that special place in hell for Copyright violators and people who talk in the theatre by rushing out in a buying frenzy and get this book (Beware, High spoiler content!).
That said, a cool, if not busy, desktop image of the planets of the Firefly 'verse guaranteed to settle all manner of arguments!
-ack
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Saturday, 10 September 2005 21:49
mine is on the way (if I can believe Amazon), and I can't wait. I do wonder why it is called the Official Visual Companion ...okay, lame joke.
ANONYMOUS
Saturday, 10 September 2005 21:59
answers to questions:
jossisagod:
You can get this book (the illustrated shooting script with notes and memos) at Amazon.com and possible your local mega-bookstore.
LexiBlock:
One of the big ongoing topics of discuusion at the alt.tv.firefly newsgroup has to do with the true composition of the Firefly universe. The two main beliefs is that
A. The worlds are part of a star system that has an unusually high number of habitable and/or terraformable planets/moons and
B. The worlds are in a local star cluster (the Pleadies?) and that Faster-Than-Light (FTL) space travel is being used.
jossisagod:
You can get this book (the illustrated shooting script with notes and memos) at Amazon.com and possible your local mega-bookstore.
LexiBlock:
One of the big ongoing topics of discuusion at the alt.tv.firefly newsgroup has to do with the true composition of the Firefly universe. The two main beliefs is that
A. The worlds are part of a star system that has an unusually high number of habitable and/or terraformable planets/moons and
B. The worlds are in a local star cluster (the Pleadies?) and that Faster-Than-Light (FTL) space travel is being used.
Saturday, 10 September 2005 22:56
A would be totally stupid, hopefully Joss doesn't go that way.
But I don't see how this proves anything either way, it just shows some planetary representations of the known worlds. And until joss says its canon it isn't.
But I don't see how this proves anything either way, it just shows some planetary representations of the known worlds. And until joss says its canon it isn't.
Sunday, 11 September 2005 00:03
Joss has already said that it is "A". No FTL. Then he said to the interviewer who asked him that if he asked another science question he would cry.
I don't think it's that important to Joss except what would make the most sense artisically. I like "A" better anyway. FTL has been so much, why not try something different?
I don't think it's that important to Joss except what would make the most sense artisically. I like "A" better anyway. FTL has been so much, why not try something different?
Sunday, 11 September 2005 00:06
Well, I'll lower my estimate of him when I get a link to that interview.
No, I don't think he gives a damn either. But now he's being as stupid as the rest of hollywood, except in reverse. They don't give a shit about good and intelligent dialog just blow stuff up (even though there could be good dialog inbetween).
A is stupid, because they only way it could come to pass is if an alien civilization had constructed the system.
No, I don't think he gives a damn either. But now he's being as stupid as the rest of hollywood, except in reverse. They don't give a shit about good and intelligent dialog just blow stuff up (even though there could be good dialog inbetween).
A is stupid, because they only way it could come to pass is if an alien civilization had constructed the system.
Sunday, 11 September 2005 00:33
not true LexiBlock, a system like that could develop naturally become stable...
Alot of those could also be moons of larger planets terrerformed to be habitable...
Alot of those could also be moons of larger planets terrerformed to be habitable...
Sunday, 11 September 2005 01:47
Looks like I have stirred up a hornet's nest with the post I accidentally made as 'anonymous'.
Bottom line: "Firefly" and "Serenity" is Joss Whedon's creation.
Debating FTL vs a solar system with an extremely lage number of inhabitable planets/moons is like debating the existance of Kryptonite. It is all make-believe. It is just a hook on which the writer hangs a storyline. Nothing more, nothing less.
To pharaphrase a line from another TV Science Fiction icon, "Deconstruction is Futile".
I'm kinda excited about the fact that Whedon may be on the brink of the equivalent of baseball's "hitting for the cycle" -- creating a hit television series out of a failed movie then creating a hit movie out of a "failed" television series!
See you all in spirit at the BDM premiere!
--Ack
Bottom line: "Firefly" and "Serenity" is Joss Whedon's creation.
Debating FTL vs a solar system with an extremely lage number of inhabitable planets/moons is like debating the existance of Kryptonite. It is all make-believe. It is just a hook on which the writer hangs a storyline. Nothing more, nothing less.
To pharaphrase a line from another TV Science Fiction icon, "Deconstruction is Futile".
I'm kinda excited about the fact that Whedon may be on the brink of the equivalent of baseball's "hitting for the cycle" -- creating a hit television series out of a failed movie then creating a hit movie out of a "failed" television series!
See you all in spirit at the BDM premiere!
--Ack
Sunday, 11 September 2005 01:52
Looks like I have stirred up a hornet's nest with the post I accidentally made as 'anonymous'.
Bottom line: "Firefly" and "Serenity" is Joss Whedon's creation.
Debating FTL vs a solar system with an extremely lage number of inhabitable planets/moons is like debating the existance of Kryptonite. It is all make-believe. It is just a hook on which the writer hangs a storyline. Nothing more, nothing less.
To pharaphrase a line from another TV Science Fiction icon, "Deconstruction is Futile".
I'm kinda excited about the fact that Whedon may be on the brink of the equivalent of baseball's "hitting for the cycle" -- creating a hit television series out of a failed movie then creating a hit movie out of a "failed" television series!
See you all in spirit at the BDM premiere!
--Ack
Bottom line: "Firefly" and "Serenity" is Joss Whedon's creation.
Debating FTL vs a solar system with an extremely lage number of inhabitable planets/moons is like debating the existance of Kryptonite. It is all make-believe. It is just a hook on which the writer hangs a storyline. Nothing more, nothing less.
To pharaphrase a line from another TV Science Fiction icon, "Deconstruction is Futile".
I'm kinda excited about the fact that Whedon may be on the brink of the equivalent of baseball's "hitting for the cycle" -- creating a hit television series out of a failed movie then creating a hit movie out of a "failed" television series!
See you all in spirit at the BDM premiere!
--Ack
Sunday, 11 September 2005 01:56
Oops!
I meant habitable..
Also, I didn't mean to double-post.
Sorry.
--Ack
I meant habitable..
Also, I didn't mean to double-post.
Sorry.
--Ack
Sunday, 11 September 2005 02:47
No citizen to the science i've read it couldn't, not that many worlds, and not with those climates.
Ackerdackerly: "Debating FTL vs a solar system with an extremely lage number of inhabitable planets/moons is like debating the existance of Kryptonite. It is all make-believe. It is just a hook on which the writer hangs a storyline. Nothing more, nothing less. "
I don't agree. That is incompetance, which is why I'm disappoined if Joss has really said that - thought I see noone has of yet showed proof. Of course it could always be countermanded in the later movies (now if only I could get him in a room for a couple of minutes ;)
"Bottom line:..."
Bottom line is, this is no a shrine. If you create something people are going to have opinions about it, opnions which are every bit as valid as the creators - with the one exception that they don't get to decide anything.
Ackerdackerly: "Debating FTL vs a solar system with an extremely lage number of inhabitable planets/moons is like debating the existance of Kryptonite. It is all make-believe. It is just a hook on which the writer hangs a storyline. Nothing more, nothing less. "
I don't agree. That is incompetance, which is why I'm disappoined if Joss has really said that - thought I see noone has of yet showed proof. Of course it could always be countermanded in the later movies (now if only I could get him in a room for a couple of minutes ;)
"Bottom line:..."
Bottom line is, this is no a shrine. If you create something people are going to have opinions about it, opnions which are every bit as valid as the creators - with the one exception that they don't get to decide anything.
Sunday, 11 September 2005 04:52
Could someone post or better yet email me with all the planet names shown in this image and which planet graphic they coraspond to? I cant read about half of them.
This info will be very helpful to me and the rest of the EV:Firefly mod team.
My email is billds9 {at} yahoo.com
Thanks.
This info will be very helpful to me and the rest of the EV:Firefly mod team.
My email is billds9 {at} yahoo.com
Thanks.
Sunday, 11 September 2005 19:02
Thanks Ackerdackerly and Aaron Blum for the high res images.
Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:38
Just as a side note, it's been mentioned on more than one occasion (primarily the Fox prologues by Mal & Book) that they "found a new system" after leaving this one. The very same page this image came from says it was one star, a system with dozens of worlds and hundreds of moons, most of which were solid enough for terraforming (which is where the sci-fi comes in). Just sayin', because it is like I said all along, w/o FTL, it wouldn't make sense.
One star. A fairly big one, with a great many orbital bodies. Joss' words. No one else's. Frankly, I think it is more plausible that way than multiple systems. The only thing I have to really suspend disbelief on is Terraforming as a real (and somewhat successful) process and artificial gravity that makes living on a spaceship "Earth normal". ;)
One star. A fairly big one, with a great many orbital bodies. Joss' words. No one else's. Frankly, I think it is more plausible that way than multiple systems. The only thing I have to really suspend disbelief on is Terraforming as a real (and somewhat successful) process and artificial gravity that makes living on a spaceship "Earth normal". ;)
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