Blue Sun Room FICTION - GENERAL

Horse, Foot and Artillery (Part II)

Thursday, May 26, 2005

History starts to turn as those that were stepped on change to those that do the stepping.

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Disclaimer – Everything either does belong to Joss or it should. I’m just borrowing his shiny ‘verse for a while.

The 21st Lancers belong to the British Army so I’m borrowing them too. I hope they don’t mind .

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“Once we’d got rid of the Reavers in our corner of space things were actually pretty calm, you could even so far as to say verging on tranquil and I was considering standing down the fleet, then one day we ran into a bunch of scruffy lunatics being chased by the Alliance Navy. To be honest things after that are really a bit of a blur right up until the moment I found myself sitting opposite a trio of sour faced enemy Generals who were agreeing the armistice terms…”

President-Elect Marc van der Heijden - Cortex Interview 2531AD

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Firefly Class Transport Ship Serenity – Docked – 2520AD

Captain Malcolm Reynolds had a serious feeling of deja-vu as the airlock doors slid open to reveal the silhouette of a pair of soldiers in helmets and body-armour training rifles at him. As the doors slid fully open more soldiers moved though into Serenity’s cargo bay and eventually the best part of a platoon of infantry were either fanning further out into the ship guns at the ready or were surrounding the crew who were stood in a rough semi-circle behind their Captain.

They were good too. Very serious looking and professional like Mal considered, all with their game-face on and eyes searching for signs of trouble. The platoon leader was a sergeant who’d obviously sized up the crew pretty well because he was watching Zoe and Jayne like a hawk.

Mal locked eyes with the sergeant for a split second. You could see beyond the thousand yard stare of a man who’d seen plenty of action to something even more dangerous beyond, the mental warning of a good non-com that simply said ‘I love my boys, fuck with them and I’ll kill you’.

As soon as the situation looked secure another figure stepped through the airlock, hands behind the back, ramrod straigh

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Thursday, 26 May 2005 20:01
Good stuff Hotpoint.

Thursday, 26 May 2005 20:54
Excellent writing Hotpoint! It’s been a long time since I read some good futuristic military fiction.
Thursday, 26 May 2005 23:14
Awesome! Well worth the wait. So is River still keeping tabs on Laura's mental state or has she decided that it's past the point where it matters?
Friday, 27 May 2005 06:21
The only criticism I have with it is that a modern Cruiser would OWN a WWI battleship even in a gunfight. Modern naval guns can have ranges out to 70 miles using some fancy (rocket powered and/or sabot) rounds while a WWI gun had max ranges of only a dozen miles or so. Modern guns can fire between 20 - 80 rounds a minute and hit within a dozen feet or so area using radar/internal guidance or within a few inches using laser guidance. Also modern warships have an over 10-knot speed advantage.

Basically a modern cruiser could find the WWI battleship 1st and pound it from outside its gun range then leave it in the dust when they got board.

lol
Friday, 27 May 2005 06:42
Gunrunner. Please note I said "Radar equipped Cruiser of a couple of decades later". That means a Cruiser of WWII vintage not a modern one.

I'm very exacting in what I say! :-)
Friday, 27 May 2005 07:34
Oh sorry about that. You said that the Indi ship was a Generation behind the Alliance ships and WWI ships were still a creditable naval unit in WWII if properly reequipped and deployed. (Examples: HMS Hood, HIJMS Kongo, HMS Royal Sovereign). I personally draw the generation line at the invention of the Guided Missile.

However if you compare the best US WWI Dreadnought Battleship (Probably Colorado Class) with the best US WWII Cruiser (Alaska class) the armor is slightly less in several areas:

13 1/2" Belt, 18" Turrets, 3 1/2" + 1 1/2" Decks, 16" Conning Tower (Colorado)
vs.
9" Belt, 12 4/5" Turrets, 1 2/5" +4" +5/8" Decks, 10 3/5" Conning Tower (Alaska)

Althogh Alaska had better deck armor (lesson probaly learned from Hood), The Guns are in favor of the Colorado 8 16’’ vs. 9 12’’. However Radar technology is the determining factor of any WWII surface engagement, look at Battle of Surigao Strait, US Radar firecontrol could hit at distances the Japanese couldn’t. It still boils down to the faster ship with more accurate guns agaisnt the slower ship with less accurate guns.
Friday, 27 May 2005 17:28
The Alaska was a battlecruiser rather than a cruiser (even the German Pocket Battleships only mounted 11 inch armament). Typical Cruiser armament for most WWII navies were 6 or 8 inch guns which meant they would have to get dangerously close to be a threat to the armour of a Dreadnought (by which time their better fire-control would be less of a factor).

Anyway this isn't really the ideal place for this discussion. I'll continue it on the Horse, Foot and Artillery Thread on the Blue Sun Room corner of the forums if GunRunner or anyone else wants to talk warships :-p
Tuesday, 31 May 2005 15:50
Splendid. So much good character bits so neatly put in--Steve looking like a French mechanic, River walking out of step with the rest.
Wednesday, 08 June 2005 16:58
Man, I've been waitin' a while for this. And of course, I wait until 2 weeks after its posted to read it. GO figure.

Great stuff, HP. I can't wait for more!

- Soul

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