The Pregnant Pause and other Whedon Trademarks
POSTED BY: manwithpez
UPDATED: Saturday, March 17, 2007 23:54
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Originally posted by Diz:
That is one of my all-time faves. It shocked me how many people missed the point. "Why were they focusing on Xander? There was an apocalypse!" Wonderful twist on conventional storytelling, and a nice goof on themselves. One of my favorite scenes is when Xander walks into the obligatory "Buffy/Angle Angst Scene" with the over-blown score and acting. The way Buffy and Angel awkwardly stare at Xander when he interrupts: Genius!
'Zeppo' was one of my favorites too!
it is a wonderful exploration of POV,
and I would love to see that done in an episode of 'Firefly'...
because each character so clearly has a different POV from every other one
but our wonderful show was cancelled before they could ever get to that point...
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Diz, I prefer that bit just before Gachnar appears:
GILES: Once begun, there are several ways of stopping the ceremony safely. Simply destroying the seal--
*Buffy smashes seal*
GILES: --is not one of them and will immediately cause the demon to appear.
BUFFY: 
Quote:Then Willow walks in, perfectly normal.
Originally posted by embers:
In 'Dopplegang Land' the Scoobie gang all think Willow is dead and has turned into a Vampire, but the audience knows that isn't true:
so everything Giles, Buffy & Xander say is very funny to us,but they themselves are miserable and mourning...
ANGEL: Hi, Willow. . . *double-take*
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Diz, I prefer that bit just before Gachnar appears:
GILES: Once begun, there are several ways of stopping the ceremony safely. Simply destroying the seal--
*Buffy smashes seal*
GILES: --is not one of them and will immediately cause the demon to appear.
BUFFY:
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
Seems like that's another undercurrent, someone doing something that she thinks is needed, but is unnecessary and/or damaging...see, well, your sig :)
"Bye now. Have good sex!"
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Interesting thread!
I like Whedon's successful experimentation with filming techniques. The most obvious being in Buffy:
Hush (it is almost mimed)
The Body (no incidental music)
Once More With Feeling (it's a musical!)
I am sure you guys will have more and can reflect on Angel and FF. However, I am not sure that there were so many original filming methods in either of them. Joss definitely experimented with storylines and characters but I don't think that is the same. Maybe he used up his grand filming ideas in BtVS?
I really should get me a signature
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In Out of Gas, there were the three looks of the different time periods represented in the episode. I think that would qualify for being a successful experimentation with film, though I'm not sure how much of Joss's hand was in that choice.
Over on Angel, some of the special effects fell flat, like (ESPECIALLY) trying to remake The Matrix when Connor first shows up back from Quor'toth. But, some of the Vamp makeups were much better in Angel than they ever were on Buffy...Especially Angel himself. (Nobody could save Harmony, who just looked goofy in her vamp makeup...huh, isn't that strange that some people look better in vamp makeup than others. Drusilla looks fine in hers...Darla, not so much.) And the transistion from human to vampire was much smoother (most of the time) on Angel. It was like Buffy invented the ball, and Angel ran it in for a touchdown.
More on this later...
Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."
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Loving this thread!
As an aside: Has anyone else noticed that when you watch a whole lot of Angel, Buffy or Firefly on DVD, you internalize the Whedon dialogue cadence....and then find that you've started talking a lot like Whedon/ one of the Whedon characters?
(Um, or is that just...me?)
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There seems to be a recurring theme of Hurt The One You Love going on in all of Joss's shows. Buffy and Angel springs immediately to mind, but its all over the place in all his shows...Giles and Buffy, when he was hypnotizing and drugging her. Wes and Angel, Cordelia and Angel, Angel and Lorne,...whom amongst his circle of friends hadn't Angel hurt at some time.
More on this later...
Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."
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Of course the OBVIOUS manifestation/ metaphor for this: Spike and Buffy, smashing each other (and a building) to bits before finally consumating their passion for each other.
Got to admit, love that Whedon kinky ;-)
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As an aside: Has anyone else noticed that when you watch a whole lot of Angel, Buffy or Firefly on DVD, you internalize the Whedon dialogue cadence....and then find that you've started talking a lot like Whedon/ one of the Whedon characters?
(Um, or is that just...me?)
Definitely not just you, which can be a problem when you say something really absurd at completely inappropriate times...whoops
On the whole 'Joss turning everyone into eeeeevil' point. I think the harshest thing he did was to turn Lorne (one of my least fave Buffyverse characters) into a cold-blooded murderer. Now that was just mean.
I really should get me a signature
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