Sheep, baaaaaaah, baaah bah!
POSTED BY: AngusThermopyle
UPDATED: Friday, June 8, 2007 16:23
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A'Thermopylae spake thus:
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You could say it's the British equivalent of the US constitution, only a lot older...
...Wherein the Rich agreed to perpetuate the myth of Divine Right, so long as they could split the booty ad infintum.
I'm still game for the Anarcho-Syndicalist Communism Movement, btw...
*zoid sits in the rowboat on the placid lake, and releases the undersized big-mouthed bass back into its waters, saying, 'Run along home littl'un, and bring back yer Papa.'*
Expectorantly,
zoid
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"Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
...this is the first time I have become obsessive about a show, and I feel there is no reason that I or any other Firefly fan should be ashamed of it..
I think you missed my point somewhat, mate. I obviously wasn't talking about you. I was talking about people who actually reply to messages in character as in the show.
May none of your pizzas have unfortunte toppings.
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
BTW, Shakespeare was never meant to be read, it has to be performed to be truly appreciated.
I agree!
May none of your pizzas have unfortunte toppings.
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
BTW, Shakespeare was never meant to be read, it has to be performed to be truly appreciated.
True but even on the stage it's still overated in my opinion. Across the English speaking world Shakespeare is lauded as a being the virtual pinacle of excellence and other than a few plays (if acted well which puts much of the credit on actor not author) it just doesn't match up to the hype.
Shakespear is "lauded" as you put it over not just the English speaking world. And for good reason. Actors merely read lines and try to give the right emotion to them. How can you say that Shakespear's work was the actor's achievement? That's just dumb! So Nathan is the real talent in Firefly. The writing is meaningless?
May none of your pizzas have unfortunte toppings.
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I am a sheep.
AngusThermopyle
prick
"..it is my very favorite gun."
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If it aint on the page, it aint on the stage.
In an increasingly lowest-common-denominator society, excellence in any form deserves appreciation for its contributions to the human spirit. But I get Angus' point about neglecting real-world issues in favor of wallowing in fiction.
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Originally posted by AngusThermopyle:
Shakespear is "lauded" as you put it over not just the English speaking world. And for good reason. Actors merely read lines and try to give the right emotion to them. How can you say that Shakespear's work was the actor's achievement? That's just dumb! So Nathan is the real talent in Firefly. The writing is meaningless?
Bit of a strawman argument there AngusThermopyle I never said that the writing was "meaningless" I was merely pointing out that the quality of how good a play is often due to the expertese of the Actors not the play itself.
The fact is that most of the truly great actors have been cast in Shakespearian plays which has helped raise the image of that work in the public eye more than they would be otherwise, think of Laurence Olivier's version of Henry V for example.
I still maintain Shakespeare is overated. That doesn't mean he wasn't any good just that his plays aren't as good as people continually make out.
In many ways I am reminded of Citizen Kane which is routinely voted best film ever but which is also considered by many critics as a triumph of style over substance. Its continued grasp on the top spot is due to a large degree on people repeating over and over again that "Citizen Kane is the best film ever" and others nodding in agreement with the "experts".
Gorram sheep following the crowd

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Hurrah, hurrah, when things are at their worst
With cries of “Death or Glory” comes the mighty Twenty-First
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...messages get answered in the same vernacular as the series
Imagine, finding Firefly fans on a bb named "Fireflyfans"! What are the odds? In the vernacular, let's do the math on that. ;-)
While I'm sure quite a few of us have 'alters' to Joss, I suspect very few have altars.
Guildsister
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You go G' Sis! Swing it!
That guy, working electric, he never drank with us!
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I think you missed my point somewhat, mate. I obviously wasn't talking about you. I was talking about people who actually reply to messages in character as in the show.
Well, I sometimes reply to messages pretending to be Simon but only because I think it's funny, it's not as though I'm suffering from multiple personality disorder.
I am also not suffering from multiple personality disorder. Me neither.
*be afraid*
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