Single Most Disgusting MOW ever seen on Buffy...

POSTED BY: bobknaptor
UPDATED: Friday, October 11, 2002 21:06
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BOBKNAPTOR

Wednesday, October 9, 2002 5:41 PM

Ok, did anybody else think the skin-eating demon was the most gory, disgusting thing they've ever shown on Buffy? EW! It was a great episode, but man... they really really really went overboard on the gross-out factor.

Loved the Spike scene with Willow on the one side and Buffy and Xander on the other. Jane Espenson is getting to have a much better understanding of the characters.

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That's a great idea - Tie ourselves to the crazy vampire.

THEGN

Wednesday, October 9, 2002 6:13 PM

That was awesome.

Hannigan didn't do a very good job with that scene though. If someone was peeling off and eating your skin, I think that you would react with more then wimpering.

It's neat how Whedon never leaves a character to return to being good after being evil without a satifactory punishment. Angel spent a lifetime in hell, and Willow gets munched on by a skin eating troll.

You gotta love it.

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In the Dark Ages, Romano-Celtic Britannia was over-run by Viking-like cultures collectively called the Anglo-Saxons. They were led by warlords called Drytinns, and the greatest warriors among them were the Thegns.

ZICSOFT

Wednesday, October 9, 2002 7:18 PM

The skin-eater strikes me as being closer to a traditional horror monster than most Buffy monsters. Not so many psychological issues, lots of ickiness. But by the standards of, say Clive Barker, rather on the tame side. Which suits me fine.

Somebody did some serious work on designing and implementing that monster. And yet they did the usual Buffy thing of holding him back as long as they could. Which is a good way to build suspense, but most TV shows just throw all their "good stuff" on the screen at the first opportunity.

Best ep of the season, so far. I particularly liked the mutual-invisibility mystery.

JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

ZICSOFT

Wednesday, October 9, 2002 7:19 PM

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Originally posted by Thegn:
If someone was peeling off and eating your skin, I think that you would react with more then wimpering.

Uhm, you did notice that she was paralyzed?

JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

THEGN

Wednesday, October 9, 2002 9:27 PM

Yeah, but she wasn't completely paralyzed. She certainly wasn't paralyzed in the medical sense of the word. She was breathing and her eye's and vocal cords were all unaffected, as well as some facial muscles. I don't know if the audience was supposed to just overlook these things or not, but if she wanted to portray total medical paralysis, then she shouldn't have had any facial expression or eye movements at all, it seems. So maybe I'm not supposed to notice that, but I did.

I sort of think she should have done more with it. She should have screamed under the paralysis or something; Trachtenberg was doing a good job at portraying the frustration of not being able to move. She actually came accross more distraught then Hannigan.

Not that I think Hannigan is a bad actress, I just think she could have handled this better. It was, prehaps, a challenging role. I don't know.

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In the Dark Ages, Romano-Celtic Britannia was over-run by Viking-like cultures collectively called the Anglo-Saxons. They were led by warlords called Drytinns, and the greatest warriors among them were the Thegns.

TINYTIMM

Wednesday, October 9, 2002 9:54 PM

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Originally posted by Thegn:
Hannigan didn't do a very good job with that scene though. If someone was peeling off and eating your skin, I think that you would react with more then wimpering.

The monster first poisioned her with a paralyzing compound. Remember Dawn on the couch? Nothing more horrifying than being skinned alive and not even being able to scream.

Jeff
Who is gonna have nightmares, if he ever catches up on sleep.

THEGN

Wednesday, October 9, 2002 10:01 PM

No. She could scream. Dawn was screaming, and no one was eating her skin. Willow should have been screaming too. It just didn't mesh.

Screaming in a paralyzed kind of way, that is.

It's a small matter though.

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In the Dark Ages, Romano-Celtic Britannia was over-run by Viking-like cultures collectively called the Anglo-Saxons. They were led by warlords called Drytinns, and the greatest warriors among them were the Thegns.

ZICSOFT

Wednesday, October 9, 2002 10:14 PM

You mean you wanted to hear her scream! I'm sure it would have been very sexy. But Willow is a powerful witch, she isn't gonna have a meltdown just because she's getting eaten alive!

JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

THEGN

Wednesday, October 9, 2002 10:24 PM

And I supposed when she became evil and started skinning people alive and destroying the world and all, she was being calm and collected.

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In the Dark Ages, Romano-Celtic Britannia was over-run by Viking-like cultures collectively called the Anglo-Saxons. They were led by warlords called Drytinns, and the greatest warriors among them were the Thegns.

ZICSOFT

Wednesday, October 9, 2002 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by Thegn:
And I supposed when she became evil and started skinning people alive and destroying the world and all, she was being calm and collected.

Well, yeah actually.

I don't recall Dark Willow so much as raising her voice in any of those three episodes. That's what made that performance so chilling.

And I think there's still a lot of Dark Willow in the current version of Willow. Not just the magical skills. The sense of detachment. The sometimes scary calmness. I think we've seen the last of the nervous self-effacing geek who was afraid of frogs.

JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

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