The Aquaman 2 Failure Thread
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Sunday, March 3, 2024 02:57
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Now they're only predicting a $29-$40 Million opening for the 4-Day holiday weekend at BoxOfficePro.
https://www.boxofficepro.com/4-day-christmas-weekend-forecast-aquaman-
and-the-lost-kingdom-migration-and-the-color-purple-to-stand-out-for-holiday-frame/
Not good.
They've got Wonka at $27 to $37 Million this weekend, so Aquaman 2 might not even take 1st place.
It opened to $4.5 Million in Previews last night, which is better than Shazam II's $3.4 Million and Blue Beetle's $3.3 Million, but far less than The Flash's $9.7 Million preview. All 4 DC films this year were previewed in 3,400 theaters according to the-numbers.com.
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The reviews I've seen are so bad they'll not going to be able to blame Amber for this abortion.
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Yeah. Really strange that we've gotten to the point where the movie reviewers regularly trash comic book movies.
We've known they've been shit for a long time, but the reviewers just finally figured it out.
I'm guessing that Disney and WB stopped paying them.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yeah. Really strange that we've gotten to the point where the movie reviewers regularly trash comic book movies.
We've known they've been shit for a long time, but the reviewers just finally figured it out.
I'm guessing that Disney and WB stopped paying them.
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They don't pay them, they give them 'access', this is why they're called 'access critics'. They call them to give them the latest poop, invite them to all the openings and parties and make them feel important. Grace Randolph is the worse, she gave 'Wonder Woman 1984' and "The Marvels' great reviews and refused to watch 'The Sound of Freedom'. There are others like Rodger Freedman who if you kiss his ass he'll give your play, film or TV show good reviews on his website, but Randolph is the worse.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yeah. Really strange that we've gotten to the point where the movie reviewers regularly trash comic book movies.
We've known they've been shit for a long time, but the reviewers just finally figured it out.
I'm guessing that Disney and WB stopped paying them.
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
They don't pay them, they give them 'access', this is why they're called 'access critics'. They call them to give them the latest poop, invite them to all the openings and parties and make them feel important. Grace Randolph is the worse, she gave 'Wonder Woman 1984' and "The Marvels' great reviews and refused to watch 'The Sound of Freedom'. There are others like Rodger Freedman who if you kiss his ass he'll give your play, film or TV show good reviews on his website, but Randolph is the worse.
They pay them too. Recently there was the story that came out about paying reviewers to give good reviews on sites like RottenTomatoes. I'm assuming that even Disney Execs don't want every pink haired potbelly troll showing up to their parties.
But yeah. Access Media first made waves in the video games industry. I'm not sure if it happened with movies first, but it wasn't talked about all the time until they started pointing out all the good reviews that bad games were getting and it was discovered that if the magazines wanted early access to games in the future they had to keep giving high scores to games that shouldn't have gotten them.
But I don't see how that changes. That pre-dated woke culture and I don't see it going away after woke culture dies.
I'm just struggling to figure out why reviewers are actually giving bad reviews to stuff today that just a year ago they would have been giving great reviews to and calling us racists and sexists because we didn't agree with them.
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It's going to make more than BoxOfficePro's low end prediction of $29 Million for the 4-day. It's already got $28.1 Million for the 3-Day (including Thursday previews).
I doubt $12 Million worth of people are going to drop what they're doing to go see it on Christmas and get it up to BOP's high-end prediction of $40 Million.
Bruce had predicted $33.4 Million for the 3-Day weekend so it came up short of that by over $5 Million.
So it beat Blue Beetle's opening weekend by $3 Million, but it lost to Shazam II by $2 Million.
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There’s really no positive way to spin Aquaman 2’s debut. Not only is it less than half what Aquaman made on its opening weekend, it’s also less than half of Black Adam’s $67-million start in October last year, and less than Shazam! Fury of the Gods earned when it opened in March. At the time, Shazam! looked like an outlier, but it now looks like the harbinger of things to come. 2023 has been a dreadful year for super hero movies, which have collectively earned $1.44 billion at the domestic box office this year, compared to $2.05 billion last year. That $600-million decline is the reason we’ll see 2023 end up with less than $9 billion in total.
Two things that Bruce isn't telling you here...
1. 2022 was a terrible year for Comic Book movies, even though nobody in the media was admitting it yet.
2. There was only ONE DCEU movie released in 2022. Not FOUR. There was also The Batman, which is not DCEU.
There were 3 MCU movies in 2022, just as there were in 2023.
I want to check his math so we can try to figure out which movies he's actually talking about.... (Was last year's DC's League of Super Pets included? This year's Miles Morales 2?)
2022 DC (Domestic Figures)
The Batman - $369,345,583
Black Adam - $168,152,111
DC TOTAL (2 MOVIES): $537,497,694
2022 Marvel (Domestic Figures)
Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness - $411,331,607
Thor: Love and Thunder - $343,256,830
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - $453,829,060
MARVEL TOTAL (3 MOVIES): $1,208,417,497
So that's only 1,745,915,191, which is still $304,084,809 short of Bruce's $2.05 Billion figure.
DC's League of Super Pets made $93,657,117 Domestic.
Oh, right... Sony made non-MCU Morbius. That was $73,865,530 Domestic.
Honestly... I can't find anymore that I think he'd be talking about. Is he counting Samaritan? Siri Asih? Secret Headquarters? Satria Dewa: Gatotkaca?
Who knows?
So I came up with $1,913,437,838 domestic in 2022 for 3 DC movies and 4 Marvel movies.
Now 2023...
DC 2023 (Domestic):
Shazam II: $57,638,006
The Flash: $108,133,313
Blue Beetle: $72,488,072
Aquaman II: $38,300,000
TOTAL (4 MOVIES): $276,559,391
Marvel 2023 (Domestic):
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania: $214,506,909
Guardians of the Galaxy 3: $358,995,815
Miles Morales 2: $381,311,319
The Marvels: $84,425,017
TOTAL (4 MOVIES): $1,039,239,060
So that's $1,315,798,451 for the big 8 movies in 2023.
Bruce has $1.44 Billion as his figure so far this year, which is $124,201,549 more than what I've added up here.
Are we counting Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? It made $118,613,586, so that would get us right about there. I think it's a little disingenuous to count TMNT these days though since it grew into so much more than that original comic book after all these years, but okay.
It's pathetic. 9 movies this year if you include TMNT for $1.44 Billion Domestic. But 7 movies last year for $1.91 Billion Domestic plus whatever other movie(s) bruce is counting to get 2022 up to $2.05 Billion is not much less pathetic either.
In 2019,
The Marvels - $426,829,839
Avengers: Endgame - $858,373,000
Spider-Man Far From Home - $390,532,085
These 3 movies alone accounted for $1,675,734,924 Domestic in 2019, which is more than $200 Million more than all 9 movies above did this year in the States. You also had DCEU's only release Shazam! which added another $140,371,656 in the states for $1,816,106,580 in only 4 movies.
Since Bruce is adding stuff that probably shouldn't be added to 2022 and 2023 (ie: Not MCU or DCEU), let's add these to 2019 too...
Joker - $335,451,311
Glass - $111,048,468
Now we're at $2,262,606,359 for 2019 with 6 movies.
So...
2019 (6 Movies): $2,262,606,359
2022 (7 Movies): $1,913,437,838
2023 (9 Movies): $1,434,412,037
And that's not even telling the full picture by a longshot, because the International numbers dwarf the US Box Office on Sup
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Well... Like I expected early in this thread, Aquaman 2 is still hanging on because it's pretty much still got no competition in the week leading up to the first of February.
Whether it was good planning or happenstance on Warner Bros.'s part, the timing of the release was excellent.
I'm amazed that 35 days into its release it's still in the top 10 at the 10th spot. It only took The Marvels 22 days to fall out of the top 10 (also in a weak box office period).
So far, Aquaman 2 has grossed as much in the US as The Marvels grossed internationally (not a good thing for comic books, really, but just showing how much better than The Marvels this movie is doing).
Shockingly, Aquaman 2 has put up $283 Million internationally. That is $155 more than Blue Beetle made worldwide. It's $151 Million more than Shazam II made worldwide. It's even $17 Million more than The Flash made worldwide.
Aquaman 2 has made $61 Million more internationally than Black Adam did in 2022, and has now made $8 Million more worldwide than Black Adam did.
All of this by no means constitutes a win for Aquaman or the DC franchise. It needed $512 Million to break even, and with $114 Million left to get there it's just as dead as I said it would be after the budget was announced. (It had it's first sub-Million Friday last week) But if I were an exec at Warner Bros. I would be considering this a huge win. This could have gone much worse for them, but in the year that only 1 out of 7 major comic book movies turned a profit, taking 3rd place and losing under $100 Million isn't terrible, especially when they've had major successes that can offset that loss. And if international numbers are still doing well there is still the possibility it takes 2nd place. (I haven't been tracking this one at all, so I have no idea how much it's still making internationally.
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Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom is available for free from the pirates:
https://yts.mx/movies/aquaman-and-the-lost-kingdom-2023
https://psa.wf/movie/aquaman-and-the-lost-kingdom-2023/
https://tpb29.ukpass.co/search.php?q=aquaman+and+the+lost+kingdom&
cat=0
How does Hollywood get people to pay for what is free? It is mysterious.
Somebody in Hollywood should make that story into a movie!
Then give the movie away for free.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom (2023)
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
(I haven't been tracking this one at all, so I have no idea how much it's still making internationally.)
Theatrical Performance
Domestic Box Office $115,932,034
International Box Office $283,395,741
Worldwide Box Office $399,327,775
Production Budget: $205,000,000 (worldwide box office is 1.9 times production budget)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Aquaman-and-the-Lost-Kingdom-(2023)#
tab=summary
Official Video Release: January 23rd, 2024 by Warner Home Video
Amazing business decision to allow only a month between theatrical release and home video.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom is available for free from the pirates:
How does Hollywood get people to pay for what is free? It is mysterious.
Somebody in Hollywood should make that story into a movie!
Then give the movie away for free.
It already made the money it was going to make before the pirates released it, Commie.
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Whether it was good planning or happenstance on Warner Bros.'s part, the timing of the release was excellent.
I'm amazed that 35 days into its release it's still in the top 10 at the 10th spot. It only took The Marvels 22 days to fall out of the top 10 (also in a weak box office period).
So far, Aquaman 2 has grossed as much in the US as The Marvels grossed internationally (not a good thing for comic books, really, but just showing how much better than The Marvels this movie is doing).
Shockingly, Aquaman 2 has put up $283 Million internationally. That is $155 more than Blue Beetle made worldwide. It's $151 Million more than Shazam II made worldwide. It's even $17 Million more than The Flash made worldwide.
Aquaman 2 has made $61 Million more internationally than Black Adam did in 2022, and has now made $8 Million more worldwide than Black Adam did.
It just wasn't enough money to break even, which had nothing to do with pirates.
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All of this by no means constitutes a win for Aquaman or the DC franchise. It needed $512 Million to break even, and with $114 Million left to get there it's just as dead as I said it would be after the budget was announced. (It had it's first sub-Million Friday last week) But if I were an exec at Warner Bros. I would be considering this a huge win. This could have gone much worse for them, but in the year that only 1 out of 7 major comic book movies turned a profit, taking 3rd place and losing under $100 Million isn't terrible, especially when they've had major successes that can offset that loss. And if international numbers are still doing well there is still the possibility it takes 2nd place. (I haven't been tracking this one at all, so I have no idea how much it's still making internationally.
The possibility was likely very slim to begin with. It still needs to make roughly $77 Million more worldwide to take 2nd place from Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania in terms of profitability in 2023.
With 35 days already behind it, the fact that it likely won't even cross $1 Million any day this weekend in the States at this point in its run is putting a lot of pressure on International audiences who have already ponied up 71% of the worldwide gross up to this point.
It's the 4th bomb from DC out of 4 for 2023. If it happens to not become the most successful failure for comic book movies in 2023, it has nothing to do with the pirates.
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