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War Never Changes - 'Ukraine’s counter-offensive is failing, with no easy fixes'

POSTED BY: JAYNEZTOWN
UPDATED: Saturday, July 22, 2023 15:40
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JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, July 22, 2023 3:40 PM

Ukraine’s counter-offensive is failing, with no easy fixes
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/21/ukraines-counter-offensive
-is-failing-with-no-easy-fixes/

I could post this int he 'Ukraine Bloodiest Day Yet to Come Thread' but maybe people will carve it up and end the endless bloody fight before it gets worse
Just as other nations Demilitarized Zone and parallel north split former countries into separate parts? Ukraine has taken back most of the lands it lost. Yet the Map changed a tiny bit in recent months, they said there would be gains in summer but over all has changed little. Most of the big movements and wins and loss and counter attacks and more winning came in the early part of the war.

The West, the USA, Europe NATO, got to test their toys, new shells, new bombs, New Flying Drone Boat High tech satellite stuff that destroys Russian equipment, superior weapons but as we seen in this war 'equipment' only goes so far an old rusty gun from WW1 can still be cleaned up and made kill, a weapon or explosive can be improvised. The USA tech was better than Russians during the ColdWar and modern US militray equipment its better again today.

So Putin perhaps got to flex some sort of 'might' with his Imperialism got to display he with his military is able to destroy cities.

Yet it has de-evolved into trench warfare, a Stalemate in the East?

I believe in the long run Putin looks weaker and more crazy

'Ukraine’s counter-offensive is failing, with no easy fixes'
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/21/ukraines-counter-offensive
-is-failing-with-no-easy-fixes/

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With no significant breakthrough after six weeks, it is worth asking whether Ukraine’s counter-offensive can ever succeed, for it certainly doesn’t look to be succeeding now.

The question to be asked is: are the Ukrainians prepared – militarily, politically, financially – to carry out months and potentially years of these (frontal assault) attacks to penetrate 1914-18 style defensive belts of tank traps, barbed wire, minefields, bunkers and trench lines? The UK Ministry of Defence has described these Russian fortifications as “some of the most extensive systems of military defensive works seen anywhere in the world”.

Ukraine is already outnumbered in every military capability. Its dire shortage of armoured vehicles means that Kyiv is approaching this counter-offensive with immense caution. Many Nato-supplied tanks and infantry fighting vehicles were knocked out during early probing attacks and they are consequently holding most of the rest of these assets back to avoid too many more losses. That is understandable – yet only a bold, concerted assault with massed armour is likely to overcome the Russians.

From the Prediction thread

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Originally posted by K2PO:

- The war won't end this year.
- Russia peaked last summer in terms of its strength in this war relative to Ukraine. Despite their mobilisations they will fight more defensively than offensively this year. They will lose more territory than they gain, but Ukrainian victories won't be as stunning as last year as Russia has more manpower and a shorter front line to defend. Bakhmut will hold. More mobilisations and replacements of top Russian generals wouldn't surprise me - this year, or next.

Cluster Bombs will be used by both sides, anywhere between 1% to 5% or more will be unexploded, they will leave behind these little 'toy' looking objects to injure and kill civilians, including children.

The cluster munition weapon is a form of air-dropped or ground-launched explosive weapon that releases or ejects smaller submunitions. Commonly, this is a cluster bomb that ejects explosive bomblets that are designed to kill personnel and destroy vehicles. Other cluster munitions are designed to destroy runways or electric power transmission lines. The failure rate ranges from 2 percent to 40 percent or more. Because of the weapon's broad area of effect, th