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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 8:28 AM

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BREAKING: New lawsuit could FLIP THE HOUSE to the Democrats



No it won't.

You are the dumbest person I've ever known.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 4:39 PM

Trump is ineligible for office and more people are realizing it: Yale professor

If Republicans are serious about capturing the White House next year, their best bet would be to ditch Donald Trump.

That’s according to the findings of a newly published University of Pennsylvania Law School study authored by two staunch conservatives that says Trump would be ineligible to serve because of his role in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, Yale management professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld writes for Just Security.

Sonnenfeld asserts that the study “shows with true authority that Trump has violated a fourth qualification, by providing aid and comfort to an insurrection and enemies of the U.S. Constitution.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-is-ineligible-for-office
-and-more-people-are-realizing-it-yale-professor/ar-AA1fDVCp?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=f5a709bba3244a32bee7f28ba6d5e5c8&ei=38




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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 7:15 PM

Trump vows massive new tariffs if elected, risking global economic war

Trump floats 10 percent tax on all foreign imports

Trump summoned his top economic advisers to his private golf club in New Jersey for a two-hour dinner last Wednesday night to map out a trade-focused economic plan for his presidential bid.

Trump and top aides, including former senior White House officials Larry Kudlow and Brooke Rollins, as well as outside advisers Stephen Moore and former House speaker Newt Gingrich, spent the dinner discussing how Trump could attack President Biden in the 2024 election on the economy, amid a recent spate of positive economic news that has buoyed Biden’s fortunes, according to three people familiar with the meeting, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the private event.

Among the ideas they discussed was Trump’s plan to enact a “universal baseline tariff” on virtually all imports to the United States, the people said. This idea, which Trump has taken to describing as the creation of a “ring around the U.S. economy,” could represent a massive escalation of global economic chaos, surpassing the international trade discord that marked much of his first administration. Trump advisers have for months discussed various potential levels to set the tariff rate, and they said the plan remains a work in progress with major questions left unresolved, the people said.

On Fox Business on Thursday, the former president called for setting this tariff at 10 percent “automatically” for all countries, a move that experts warn could lead to higher prices for consumers throughout the economy and could likely lead to a global trade war.

“I think we should have a ring around the collar” of the U.S. economy, Trump said in an interview with Kudlow on Fox Business on Thursday. “When companies come in and they dump their products in the United States, they should pay, automatically, let’s say a 10 percent tax … I do like the 10 percent for everybody.”

The proposed expansion of the tariff policy, which aides said is expected to be a central 2024 campaign plank, reflects how Trump is aiming to expand the power he wielded in the White House, eyeing sweeping authoritarian measures for his second term that range from deploying the military to fight street crime to purging the federal workforce. Trump is opting not to explain this vision to voters at the first Republican presidential primary debate, being held Wednesday. Trump said he will not attend.

Economists of both parties said Trump’s tariff proposal is extremely dangerous. Adam Posen, president of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, a Washington think tank, called the idea “lunacy” and “horrifying” and said it would lead the other major economies around the world to conclude the United States cannot be trusted as a trading partner. Although aimed at bolstering domestic production, a 10 percent tariff would hurt the thousands of U.S. firms that depend on imports, while also crippling the thousands of U.S. firms that depend on foreign exports, Posen said.

The United States today imposes an average tariff on imports of just above 3 percent, according to Posen. That number is higher for some countries, with goods coming from China facing an average import duty of 19 percent. “You would be depriving American families of an enormous amount of choice, making their lives much more expensive, and putting millions of people out of work,” Posen said.

Trump could use unilateral authority to exempt whatever countries he chooses from the automatic import tariffs. It would create enormous opportunities for influence-peddling, Posen said, following four years of a Trump presidency in which Saudi Arabia and other nations sought to steer Trump by frequenting his private businesses. “It is a recipe for corruption,” Posen said. “They will decide that whoever cozies up to Trump, or whoever his commerce secretary is, will get the exception.”

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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 8:03 PM

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BREAKING: New lawsuit could FLIP THE HOUSE to the Democrats



No it won't.

You are the dumbest person I've ever known.

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If you paid any attention to your own signature "How you do anything is how you do everything" you'd know why Trump got into thousands of lawsuits and lost or settled before going to trial.

6ix, Trump should be fired. During Trump's Inauguration Address, he figuratively did the #1 example from These 25 People Just Shared The Quickest Ways They've Ever Seen A Coworker Get Fired

George W. Bush had a brief assessment of Donald Trump's inauguration: "That was some weird shit.”

#1."During an annual sales meeting, a colleague got trashed on the plane ride there and pressed his bare butt on the plane window as it taxied to the gate, hoping to moon some friends who had just landed nearby. A VP was on the plane. Dude was fired and immediately sent home (on the company dime). He never even left the airport."

https://au.news.yahoo.com/people-revealing-quickest-way-theyve-0116027
55.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 9:45 PM



Trump is neck and neck with Biden in the polling aggregate today, and that's with 8 other "potential" Republican candidates currently debating and splitting up the vote, and of course the non-stop 24/7 negative Lefty press coverage that has become a daily part of our lives since 2016.

What do you think is going to happen once it's just Trump vs. Biden, huh?


And, even worse for you two...

Here's what the polling aggregates looked like on November 2nd of 2020:

Poll Aggregate Source / Biden / Trump / Other / Split
270 to Win ---------- / 51.1% / 43.1% / 5.8% / Biden +8.0
RealClear Politics -- / 51.2% / 44.0% / 4.8% / Biden +7.2
FiveThirtyEight ----- / 51.8% / 43.4% / 4.8% / Biden +8.4
Average ------------- / 51.4% / 43.5% / 5.1% / Biden +7.9


Here were the actual (Popular Vote) results:
2020 results 51.3% 46.8% 1.9% Biden +4.5

Joe Biden won the Popular Vote, but by 3.4% less than the average of the aggregates had him winning by.

The Aggregates today, right now...

RCP: Biden +2.0

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-ele
ction-trump-vs-biden-7383.html


270toWin: Biden +1.1

https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/

FiveThirtyEight doesn't do the math, but it doesn't look much better for Biden:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/nati
onal
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Joe under-performed the average of the three largest polling aggregators by about double the current spread they've got Joe up by right now.


And even worse news is that was just the popular vote. Only about 40,000 to 60,000 votes need to be swung the other way in some key states (combined) to win the Electoral College. An extremely easy hurdle to overcome now that Republicans and Trump himself have decided to embrace the changes in law that de-legitimatized all American Elections going forward during Covid, just like I warned you they would.


Good luck. You'll need it.

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 12:20 AM

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Trump is neck and neck with Biden in the polling aggregate today . . .

That is NOT how Presidents are elected. What predictive system does work? This one: The Keys to the White House
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_to_the_White_House

From the content of the system, Lichtman concludes that voters select the next president mainly on how they feel the incumbent president has governed the country. If the voters are satisfied with the condition of the country, they will re-elect the incumbent president, or whoever from his party runs in his stead. If the voters are dissatisfied, they will transfer the presidency to the rival party. The election campaign has little if any meaningful effect on the voters. Voters are pragmatic and are not swayed by the spectacle of campaigning. Whether the voters are correct to blame the president for the country's specific problems is another matter; the point is that the election campaign is irrelevant. Voters vote retrospectively, not prospectively.

The word "retrospectively" means something in the case of Trump. He has behaved idiotically since he left the White House. Only people who are Trumptards will downplay that recent history.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 12:42 AM

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Trump is neck and neck with Biden in the polling aggregate today . . .

That is NOT how Presidents are elected.



Yes. It is. And you missed the point. Biden* was much farther above Trump before the 2020 election, and the amount he under-performed is twice his aggregate lead today.



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What predictive system does work? This one: The Keys to the White House
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_to_the_White_House

From the content of the system, Lichtman concludes that voters select the next president mainly on how they feel the incumbent president has governed the country. If the voters are satisfied with the condition of the country, they will re-elect the incumbent president, or whoever from his party runs in his stead. If the voters are dissatisfied, they will transfer the presidency to the rival party. The election campaign has little if any meaningful effect on the voters. Voters are pragmatic and are not swayed by the spectacle of campaigning. Whether the voters are correct to blame the president for the country's specific problems is another matter; the point is that the election campaign is irrelevant. Voters vote retrospectively, not prospectively.

The word "retrospectively" means something in the case of Trump. He has behaved idiotically since he left the White House. Only people who are Trumptards will downplay that recent history.



Too bad for Biden* and Democrats that the damage they've done to Americans is far more fresh in their minds going into this election.

The Normies vote the President in. Not you Leftist wack-job cultists.



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Thursday, August 24, 2023 8:06 AM

Alex Cole @acnewsitics

Trump is a weak man's idea of a strong man, a stupid man's idea of a smart man, a poor man's idea of a rich man and a moron's idea of a businessman.

9:51 PM · May 20, 2019
https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/status/1130667316440641540

6ixStringJack got 4 out of 4:

1. weak man
2. stupid man
3. poor man
4. moron

It is no surprise that 6ix is a Trumptard. Say it again, 6ix: "Trump will be fine." That qualifies 6ix as:

5. Non-perceptive man
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/perceptive

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 8:12 AM

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Too bad for Biden* and Democrats that the damage they've done to Americans is far more fresh in their minds going into this election.

The Normies vote the President in. Not you Leftist wack-job cultists.

I have never seen anybody damaged by a Democratic President but what I have seen thousands of times is these so-called "Normies" destroying themselves with alcohol, tobacco, gluttony, sex, drugs, gambling, etc. Never have I seen even one of these "Normies" realize they were killing themselves and it was completely their own fault. Flunk out of life now, Normies! You know you want to.

I forgot about being at the Pawnshop twice in a week (Cash America Pawn, Bay Area Boulevard, Houston, TX). That place reminded me that "Normies" are EXTREMELY stupid about money. It is self-destructive, but nobody at the pawnshop seeking a loan on crappy TVs had a clue that they were doing something wrong by being there. Sell your junk on eBay. Don't go to a pawnshop, Normies. And while I am giving advice, don't get a payday loan, Normies. Interest rates are higher than 400%, you fools. https://paydayloaninfo.org/how-payday-loans-work/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 5:18 PM

Trump was boasting about his poll numbers when Tucker Carlson suddenly cut him off.

“Can I ask you—that gets back to my original question,” he said. “If the protests didn’t work, and you got elected anyway; the impeachment didn’t work, twice; indictment is not working … If you chart it out, it’s an escalation, is what I’m saying. So what’s next, after trying to put you in prison for the rest of your life? That’s not working. Don’t they have to kill you now?”

Trump didn’t respond directly. “I think the people of our country don’t get enough credit for how smart they are,” he said. “They get it. I got indicted four times. All trivial. Nonsense. Bullshit. It’s all bullshit.” (As all Trumptards do, Trump denies any responsibility for the trouble he is in.)

It was the second time Carlson had brought up the strong likelihood, from his perspective, that they were going to try to kill Trump. Over the course of the 46-minute interview, Carlson emphasized, repeatedly, the looming danger from the left. It was an odd conversation in part because Trump didn’t seem to want to follow him down that particular path. Trump was eager to talk about the stolen election or the failures of the Democrats or Joe Biden’s senility, but he had little apparent enthusiasm for Carlson’s questions about the prospect of civil war. It was, oddly, an interview that served, unintentionally, to make Donald Trump seem reasonable.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/08/tucker-carlson-trump-inter
view-x-epstein-debate.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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