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What is Putin's end game?

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THG
Saturday, March 19, 2022 9:44 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
According to the IRC, 700 civilians have been killed in three weeks. Don't you think that if Russia was DELIBERATELY targting civilians that the count would be much, much higher?



Yeah, you're probably right. I mean only 700 civilian casualties can't be on purpose - gotta be an accident.

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And then, there is the strong possibility that the Ukie Nazis are hiding behind human shields and/or killing civilian hostages in false flag evetns.



Whoa! That escalated quickly! Nazis hiding behind women and children!

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Western Silence as 20,000 Neo-Nazis March in Ukraine

https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/258757/western-silence-as-20000-
neo-nazis-march-in-ukraine.html




Great source. I mean, if it's in The Nigerian Voice... it must be true!

Funny how looking at that web site the bulk of the "coverage" (most likely rss feeds on autopilot) is all about Nigeria. Go figure. And then, bam! Suddenly something about Nazis in Ukraine! What? Seems so out of place, right? Almost like someone (not you) bought space so they could have an "article" to link to, to try and verify a certain pov.

Wait, I did find one other article that also must be true since it's in the Nigerian Voice:

https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/306550/captured-russian-pilot-ad
mits-to-bombing-civilians-urges-ru.html


"Captured Russian pilot admits to bombing civilians, urges Russia to stop assault: 'We have already lost this war'"

A captured Russian pilot admitted to targeting Ukrainian civilians and urged Russia to call off the assault on Ukraine.

Lieutenant Colonel Krishtop Maxim Sergeevich was shot down on March 6 and taken into custody by Ukrainian forces, Interfax Ukraine reported. At a press conference on Friday, Krishtop said he carried out three bombing missions, Newsweek reported.

“In the process of completing the task, I realized that the target was not enemy military facilities, but residential buildings, peaceful people,” Krishtop said, per Newsweek. “But I carried out the criminal order.”

Putin initially said that his invasion of Ukraine would not target any civilians , but the offensive has since bombed multiple towns and cities , resulting in a massive refugee crisis and over 1,546 confirmed Ukrainian casualties.

Krishtop, who served as Russia’s Deputy Commander of the 47th Aviation Regiment, said he deployed FAB-500 bombs, which are 500 kg — or 1,100 lb — explosives frequently used by the Russian military. A recent video shows two Ukrainians carefully defusing a similar bomb in Chernihiv, a city in northern Ukraine.

“I recognize the enormity of the crimes committed by me,” Krishtop said, per Newsweek. “I want to ask forgiveness from the entire Ukrainian people for the misfortune that we brought them. I will do everything in my power to end this war as quickly as possible, and bring those responsible for this genocide of Ukrainians to justice.”

Opps!





A dead giveaway with Sigmym’s links are they do not represent the same information the mainstream media is reporting. Her posts always directly challenge and act in defiance of what the mainstream media is reporting. Her posts represent the absurd.

I don’t challenge her here because I think I can score points or change her view of things through debate. That’s not possible. Instead, I challenge her posts to keep them as an archive I can access if firefly is rebooted. I want to expose her for what she is to the new arrivals. I will bring them up every time she offers an opinion. Especially when she pretends to feel moral outrage about anything, anything at all.


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Saturday, March 19, 2022 9:50 PM

THUGR: You kust have the memory of a goldfish! (which BTW is six seconds long.)

Are you claiming that you no longer remember the pictures of Ukie neo-Nazis that were all over the inet just a few years ago?

The fact that I pointed out, in the video that YOU recently posted about Crimea, the reference to, and videos of, "far right" Ukie groups and their torchlight parades?
The pictures of John McCain posing with Ukie Nazi leaders?
The Nazi salutes?

What do you do? Allow your memory to be wiped and reprogramed every night?


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THG
Saturday, March 19, 2022 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

THUGR: You kust have the memory of a goldfish! (which BTW is six seconds long.)

Are you claiming that you no longer remember the pictures of Ukie neo-Nazis that were all over the inet just a few years ago?

The fact that I pointed out, in the video that YOU recently posted about Crimea, the reference to, and videos of, "far right" Ukie groups and their torchlight parades?
The pictures of John McCain posing with Ukie Nazi leaders?
The Nazi salutes?

What do you do? Allow your memory to be wiped and reprogramed every night?






I’m so sorry you can’t see me laughing. What I remember is you are a Jew hatter. I bet if we scan the picture we could see you somewhere in the background wearing a hood. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!

Too funny comrade, thanks for the laugh.

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Saturday, March 19, 2022 10:05 PM

Just when I thought people couldn't possibly get any stupider, you come along and post!

Well, I have more important thing to do than try to teach a goldfish to think.

In the meantime, the pictures SHOULD remind actual thinking people that there are, indeed, Nazis in Ukraine. Nothing "neo" about them, either.



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THG
Saturday, March 19, 2022 10:13 PM

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Just when I thought people couldn't possibly get any stupider, you come along and post!

Well, I have more important thing to do than try to teach a goldfish to think.

In the meantime, the pictures SHOULD remind actual thinking people that there are, indeed, Nazis in Ukraine. Nothing "neo" about them, either.



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OTOH I'll stack my posts up against THUGR's or SHITHITTHEFAN's and GSTRING's any day. They've gotten to the point where they post NOTHING BUT personal attacks. When a forum gets to that point, it's dead already, and they killed it.



Wrong and a lie - your incessant lying is part of what kills it... for you. Ironic, no? We spend so much time calling out your Bullshit. I guess that's your MO - just make noise and controversy. I half think you may be an inmate somewhere desperate for conversation. ANY KIND, the more contentious the better because you learned it keeps people coming back to point out your sh*t.

Just above - a complete lie, "They've gotten to the point where they post NOTHING BUT personal attacks. " That's a lie, an obvious weak one.

How can you defend that? Please try. Let's have a discussion on why you feel the need to lie so much. I'm all ears, it could be good therapy for you. We don't know who you are in real life so it could be cleansing. You might grow to the point where you can try and win a discussion through... better logic, a better argument, even being on the Right side of an issue.

Here's an example of Truth: When a forum gets to the point where people threaten others with legal action instead of better ideas and arguments, then it's dead. At least RWED. See? I didn't have to lie or make anything up about you or Kiki - it's just fact.



http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62783&mid=1
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Saturday, March 19, 2022 10:16 PM

Of course: make shit up, publish misleading photos, blame Russia!

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Italian Newspaper Denies "Disinformation" Despite Publishing Completely Misleading Front-Page Photo
Saturday, Mar 19, 2022 - 05:10 AM

Authored by Paul Joseph Watson

Italian newspaper La Stampa has denied accusations it engaged in disinformation [propaganda] by publishing a front page photo of a Ukrainian ballistic missile strike on Donetsk while suggesting it had been carried out by Russia.

The daily news outlet promised readers coverage of Russian attacks in Kiev and Lvov alongside a headline that read “The Carnage”.



The headline was illustrated with an image of a man covering his face in grief as dead bodies lie around him along with lines about “traumatized children in Lvov” and “Kiev preparing for the final assault” by Russian troops.

The photograph actually showed the aftermath of a ballistic missile strike on Donetsk, the capital of a pro-Russian breakaway republic in eastern Ukraine, after it was hit by a tactical Tochka-U ballistic missile that was almost certainly launched by Ukraine.

Whoops!

However, editor-in-chief Massimo Giannini vehemently denied in an interview that the publication had deliberately misled readers.

“The thing that bothers me most and pains me a lot is that there are also some people here in Italy, some disgraced people of the web, who amplify this and call it a case of disinformation,” said Giannini.

“Where is the disinformation?” he asked.

How about right there on your front page, Massimo?

Imagine if a Russian newspaper had published emotive front page coverage of alleged Ukrainian attacks on pro-Russian rebel areas of the country and then illustrated it with images that actually showed Russian attacks on Kiev.

Critics would immediately denounce the publication for engaging in egregious disinformation, and they’d be right.

Apparently though, amidst the ideological clamor to support the “current thing,” only Russia engages in propaganda and disinformation.

NATO powers and western media outlets are complete saints!



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Saturday, March 19, 2022 10:45 PM

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Of course: make shit up, publish misleading photos, blame Russia!

Russia is to blame for Joseph Stalin Starving Millions in the Ukrainian Famine. Cruel efforts under Stalin to impose collectivism and tamp down Ukrainian nationalism left an estimated 3.9 million dead.
https://www.history.com/news/ukrainian-famine-stalin

Stalin/Kulaks. Putin/Ukie-Nazis. It is all the same to Ukrainians but this time the Ukrainians intend to kill the Russians rather than let the Russians starve them to death.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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THG
Saturday, March 19, 2022 10:51 PM

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Of course: make shit up, publish misleading photos, blame Russia!






Poor Signym, poor Russia. The world is watching in horror as Russia slaughters the old, women and children, the innocent. And during this comrade Signym and Putin play the victims. Poor me poor me they say.

Signym, because of propagandists like you and unquestionably because of Putin, your beloved Russia is coming to an abysmal end. Yes, a terrible appalling end. It is certain, there is no stopping it now.

Posts in these threads or even the current propaganda spewed by Putin cannot change the facts. What do you think your lies will accomplish comrade? At best they sever as a temporary band aid to slow the bleeding. Still Signym, the truth about what’s going on is like a leaking dam. New leaks are emerging in Russia every second and they cannot be fixed. In the end the result is going to be the same. The death of Russia as it is for a very very long time. Your beloved Putin is now taking his place in China’s back pocket.

And comrade, I told you so.


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THG
Saturday, March 19, 2022 11:22 PM

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