Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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SIGNYM

Monday, February 19, 2024 6:57 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Flogging "the west" for more weapons is pointless because the cupboard is bare: there are no more weapons to spare, and everybody know it except delusional neocons, clueless western politicians, and cokehead Zelensky.

And since there are no more weapons to spare ... aftervall, the USA has plenty of other wars on its docket ... flogging the west for more money will only help Ukrainian politicians and oligarchs and western speculators who were hoping for a big Russia - or, failing that, Ukrainian- payday.

All of those pretenders of hardbitten, realworld analysis completley failed to stumble upon realworld facts, because they were too busy polishing their ideological turds to a high shine.

That includes CAPNCRUNCH, THUGR, and SECOND, and all those propagandists that they posted here. They collectively are as rabid and delusional as Israelis.

SECINDRATE: Signym, you are full of shit. Denmark says bullshit on you and the European cheese-eating surrender monkeys who have plenty of ammo held in reserve but pretend they cannot send it to Ukraine:

Denmark to send its 'entire artillery' to Ukraine, the country's prime minister says

All of five artillery pieces and 5000 shells???

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By Nathan Rennolds | Feb 18, 2024, 11:32 AM CST

https://www.businessinsider.com/denmark-to-send-all-artillery-ukraine-
pm-russia-war-2024-2

Denmark is sending all of its artillery to Ukraine, the Danish prime minister has said.

Mette Frederiksen made the announcement while speaking at the Munich Security Conference.

It comes as Ukraine faces severe munitions shortages.

Denmark is sending its "entire artillery" to Ukraine, the Danish prime minister has said.

Speaking at the Munich Security Conference, Mette Frederiksen appealed to other European nations to do more to help Ukraine in its fight against Russian President Vladimir Putin's invading forces.

"They are asking us for ammunition now. Artillery now. From the Danish side, we decided to donate our entire artillery," she said.

"I'm sorry to say, friends, there are still ammunition in stock in Europe," she continued. "This is not only a question about production, because we have weapons, we have ammunition, we have air defense that we don't have to use ourself at the moment, that we should deliver to Ukraine."

Etc etc

Well, how to unpack that?

DENMARK apparently doesn't believe that Russia is going to attack them because they're willing to gut themselves.

But I'm sure Russia will be happy to blow up whatever Denmark sends. The more EU nations gut themselves, the more Russia will be able to demilitarize the EU as well as Ukraine.

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Czech President Petr Pavel said in a speech at the Munich Security Conference on 17 February that it had a stockpile of about half a million 155 mm and 300,000 122 mm shells, which can be on the Ukraine frontline in a few weeks "if funding is found quickly."

And apparently CZECHIA doesn't think that Russia will invade them either, bc if they did they wouldn't be gutting themselves either, no matter how much money they expected to make.

Clearly a lot of cognitive dissonance going on.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 19, 2024 7:40 AM

Remember the good old days when Europe fought against Nazis instead of fighting for them?

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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

SIGNYM

Monday, February 19, 2024 8:06 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Remember the good old days when Europe fought against Nazis instead of fighting for them?

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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

Europe was actually split. There were a lot of Nazi sympathizers/ collaborators in nations that we think are liberal democracies.

But I think this has more to do with globalist plans to plunder Russia, and the uber-elite's ability to pack national governments with moronic sycophants and opportunists. I have heard some incredibly stupid things coming out of their mouths. Like Baerbock's insistence thatPutin do a 360 degree turn.

No shit! That earned her the nickname Annalena "360" Baerbock.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM

SECOND

Monday, February 19, 2024 8:29 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

But I think this has more to do with globalist plans to plunder Russia . . .

I think the globalists are responding to Russia threatening to nuke the U.S.:

Russia Vows Nuclear Strike on Washington if Ukraine Wins

Feb 18, 2024 at 11:56 AM EST

https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-ally-nuclear-threat-ukraine-wi
n-1871005

A close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin has threatened the use of nuclear weapons on the U.S. if Russia fails in its invasion of Ukraine.

In a Telegram post on Sunday, Dmitry Medvedev, deputy chairman of the Security Council of Russia, has claimed the Moscow would use nuclear weapons in the event that "Ukraine with its allies" managed to push Russia out of the war-torn country.

"Let's imagine for a moment that Russia lost and 'Ukraine with its allies' won. What for our enemies—the neo-Nazis with their Western sponsors—would be such a victory?" Medvedev wrote.

He goes on to talk about the "collapse of Russia," in which he describes a "return to the borders of 1991" when the USSR collapsed following the Cold War. Medvedev said that a Western victory would constitute a complete collapse of Russia, with "tens of millions of victims." He described it as "the death of our future. The collapse of everything in the world."

The post continues: "The collapse of Russia will have much more terrible consequences than the results of an ordinary, even the most protracted war. For attempts to return Russia to the borders of 1991 will lead to only one thing. To the global war with the Western countries using all the strategic arsenal of our state."

He goes on to make nuclear threats against key U.S. and European capital cities. "Against Kyiv, Berlin, London, Washington. Against all other beautiful historical places that have been long ago included in the flight targets of our nuclear triad," he wrote.

Concluding his message, Medvedev wrote: "Will we have the guts for this if the disappearance of a thousand-year-old country, our great homeland, is at stake, and the sacrifices made by the people of Russia over the centuries will be in vain? The answer is obvious."

Putin himself and other top Russian officials have threatened to use nuclear weapons as it continues its campaign, both in Ukraine and against NATO member countries.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Monday, February 19, 2024 8:43 AM

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Raise your privileged hand if you’re willing to ‘fight to the last Ukrainian’

Hey, what’s a million-plus dead and wounded when you live thousands of miles away in a bubble of arrogant privilege?

In August 2023, U.S. officials estimated that approximately 500,000 Russian and Ukrainian troops had been killed or wounded since Russia’s invasion in February 2022. Back in November, the United Nations Human Rights Office said more than 10,000 Ukrainian civilians had died.

Recently, a former intelligence official told me that troop casualties are now over 1 million, and that the U.N. estimate of civilian deaths is dramatically higher. Over 1 million dead and wounded men, women and children.

Shouldn’t that obscenely horrific death and casualty number shock us? For a comparison, how would we react if every single man, woman and child in Dallas, San Diego, Austin, Jacksonville or San Jose were killed or wounded while large parts of those cities were leveled to the ground by air and artillery bombardments?

Sadly, tragically, but purposefully, there has been very little reporting on the human cost of the war between Russia and Ukraine. Some in the media have seemingly morphed into stenographers for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, with each story beginning: “As Ukraine reports…” or “As Zelensky stated…”

Media sites can still be “anti-Putin” while professionally and ethically reporting the absolute facts on the ground. Facts that paint a horribly tragic picture.

If the rationale by our government, the United Kingdom and others in Europe (along with much of the media, academia and various defense contractors) was to use Ukraine and its people as cheap disposable pawns to be sacrificed in a proxy war against Vladimir Putin and Russia, then they are succeeding at a certain macabre level.

However, if the idea of supporting the Ukraine war with Russia was to “save the people of Ukraine” and the country’s infrastructure, then those who advocated for that course of action have failed miserably.

How miserably? Well, as CNN reported recently, the war has devolved into brutal trench warfare: “The frontlines of Russia’s war in Ukraine have become infested with rats and mice, reportedly spreading disease that causes soldiers to vomit and bleed from their eyes, crippling combat capability and recreating the gruesome conditions that plagued troops in the trench warfare of World War I.”

Does any of that matter or register with the privileged and “neocon” class on both sides of the Atlantic who — from the safety of thousands of miles away while enjoying six- and seven-figure salaries — continually advocate for the youth of Ukraine to march into the teeth of the Russian war machine?

MORE AT https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4473663-raise-your-privi
leged-hand-if-youre-willing-to-fight-to-the-last-ukrainian/

Meanwhile, partying at Munich Security Conference, hosted by Bild. "Drink to defeat Putin" was the order of the day.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM

SECOND

Monday, February 19, 2024 8:51 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Raise your privileged hand if you’re willing to ‘fight to the last Ukrainian’

The Russians killed 4 million Ukrainians during Holodomor. But that is all in the past, except the Ukrainians know the Russians might kill another 4 million in the future. The Ukrainians fight in the present to show the Russians that time is not a flat circle.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Holodomor

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Monday, February 19, 2024 9:25 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Raise your privileged hand if you’re willing to ‘fight to the last Ukrainian’
The Russians killed 4 million Ukrainians during Holodomor. But that is all in the past, except the Ukrainians know the Russians might kill another 4 million in the future. The Ukrainians fight in the present to show the Russians that time is not a flat circle.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Holodomor

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

There were at least six points where war could have been avoided, from the initial coup ousting Yanukovich (promoted by "Fuck the EU" Nuland) to the Minsk agreements (both of them) to the shelling of Donetsk and finally to the cease fire agreement that Boris Johnson torpedoed. At every step, the west kept egging Ukraine on.
This isn't on Russia.
It's on the west.
No matter how much you try to distort history.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM

SECOND

Monday, February 19, 2024 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There were at least six points where war could have been avoided, from the initial coup ousting Yanukovich (promoted by "Fuck the EU" Nuland) to the Minsk agreements (both of them) to the shelling of Donetsk and finally to the cease fire agreement that Boris Johnson torpedoed. At every step, the west kept egging Ukraine on.
This isn't on Russia.
It's on the west.
No matter how much you try to distort history.

On Sunday, Dmitry Medvedev clearly stated what this war is about: "For attempts to return Russia to the borders of 1991 will lead to only one thing. To the global war with the Western countries using all the strategic arsenal of our state." Signym, Mikhail Gorbachev set the 1991 border and Putin hates the setting.

To paraphrase, Russia will nuke the U.S. rather than Russia continuing to live within the 1991 borders. Even clearer, Russia is taking back Ukraine and if you don't like it, Russia will nuke you.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Monday, February 19, 2024 12:44 PM

You're "explaining" what the USA did 20 years ago by what Medvedev says now???
Stop gaslighting us, SECOND. We're not as stupid as you are.

BTW, what Medvedev said

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What does this mean? It means only one thing – they risk running into the action of paragraph 19 of the fundamentals of Russia's state policy in the field of nuclear deterrence," Medvedev wrote on the Telegram messaging app.
"This should be remembered," Medvedev said.
Paragraph nineteen of Russia's 2020 nuclear doctrine sets out the conditions under which a Russian president would consider using a nuclear weapon: broadly as a response to an attack using nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction, or to the use of conventional weapons against Russia "when the very existence of the state is put under threat."
Medvedev made specific mention of point "g" of paragraph nineteen which deals with the nuclear response to a conventional weapons attack.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-medvedev-warns-nuclear-re
sponse-if-ukraine-hits-missile-launch-sites-2024-01-11/

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Concluding his message, Medvedev wrote: "Will we have the guts for this if the disappearance of a thousand-year-old country, our great homeland, is at stake, and the sacrifices made by the people of Russia over the centuries will be in vain? The answer is obvious."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-ally-vows-nuclear-strike-on
-washington-if-ukraine-wins/ar-BB1itx8o

What he is saying, in different ways, it what Russia has always said: It will use nuclear weapons if it is existentially threatened, even by conventional forces.

Of course Russia now considers Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson, and Zaparozhzhia to be part of Russia. So there's that.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM

SECOND

Monday, February 19, 2024 5:48 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You're "explaining" what the USA did 20 years ago by what Medvedev says now???
Stop gaslighting us, SECOND. We're not as stupid as you are.

BTW, what Medvedev said

The rulers of Russia have a thousand-year history of killing people and stealing their land. For example, Stalin killed 4 million Ukrainians during Holodomor and stole their land but magnanimous Mikhail Gorbachev set the border for Ukraine in 1991, giving all that land back to Ukrainians. Putin is attempting to cancel Gorbachev and reset the border back to 1990. Putin makes foolish threats to nuke the West if it "interferes" with the new border declared by Putin. The Putin plan is childishly simple: kill the owners, steal their land, and threaten to nuke anyone who interferes. It is a plan that can be repeated over and over, across Europe. Seeing how obvious Putin is, Putin's plan will be stopped in Ukraine by Europe.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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