Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:You're starting to sound very Russian. The sentiment that Democrats are a threat to Trumpards is very similar to Ukraine being a threat to Russia and this threat can be tolerated no more. Russia's next step was an invasion. What's the Trumptards' next step against Democrats?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:You are channeling...
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
I can't wait until the Leftists are purged from the mainstream.
We're getting there.
I'm doing no such thing.
I'm absolutely sick and tired of the Leftist Propaganda churned out 24/7 from the Leftist ran media machine.
Just like everybody else in the fucking country is.
We're done with you idiots. Everything you touch turns to shit.
Whatever the Trumptards do next, I sincerely hope Trump leads them since Trump is even less systematic and competent than Putin. One thing Putin can't be accused of is being lazy and fat, the direct opposite of Trump. Trump's lack of focused energy makes wherever he leads his followers more likely to be a swamp of failure. Putin leads his people into failure. Trump can do the same, yet quicker!
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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If you (individually and collectively) would stop threatening "Trumptards" maybe you wouldn't be seen as a threat.
If you (individually and collectively) would stop threatening Russia, maybe Russia wouldn't see you as a threat.
It's simple, but probably not simple enough for you.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:You're starting to sound very Russian.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:You are channeling...
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
I can't wait until the Leftists are purged from the mainstream.
We're getting there.
I'm doing no such thing.
I'm absolutely sick and tired of the Leftist Propaganda churned out 24/7 from the Leftist ran media machine.
Just like everybody else in the fucking country is.
We're done with you idiots. Everything you touch turns to shit.
You sound Russian every day.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
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Quote:The Trumptards and the Russians make claims upon other people's property. The Trumptards claim that the world owes them a good-paying job in manufacturing or coal mining or whatever their hearts desire. The companies of the world, which actually own the factories and mines, strongly disagree that they owe Trumptards a good-paying job. The same is true with Russians claiming they own Ukraine and everyone within it. Ukrainians disagree strongly with Russians' claims of owning Ukrainian land.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If you (individually and collectively) would stop threatening "Trumptards" maybe you wouldn't be seen as a threat.
If you (individually and collectively) would stop threatening Russia, maybe Russia wouldn't see you as a threat.
It's simple, but probably not simple enough for you.
Who shall referee these disagreements so that war doesn't become incessant?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Putin has a simple solution to Russia's conflict with Ukraine. The ‘Putin Principle’ could bring peace to Eurasia
by Alexander J. Motyl, Opinion Contributor - 01/30/23 10:00 AM ET
Sometimes even Russian strongman Vladimir Putin has a good idea.
For years, he has insisted that Russia has a right to territories that were historically Russia’s and whose inhabitants are “our own.” Hence, Putin’s claims on Ukraine’s Donbas and Crimea, which have large Russian and Russian-speaking populations. This is also his justification for the genocidal war he launched against Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022. Since, according to Putin, Ukrainians are really Russians, Russia must be perfectly entitled to do with them what it wants.
In fact, Putin is spot on to say that Russia has a right to its historically Russian territories. It’s just that he doesn’t understand what the consequences for the Russian Federation would be if the “Putin Principle” were to be consistently applied to his homeland.
In a word, the Russian Federation would cease being a federation and instead shrink to a moderately-sized statelet centered on Moscow. Who could argue with such a happy prospect for the world’s largest country?
Start with the fact that the Muscovite tsars conquered Siberia in the 16th and 17th centuries by subjugating the native peoples who inhabited this vast expanse of land. So, Siberia would have to go. But so, too, would much of southern Russia, which historically was populated by various nomadic peoples and belonged to the Mongols before the Muscovites drove them out.
Putin would also have to say good-bye to northern European Russia, which formerly belonged to the Novgorod Republic (populated by Slavic, Finnic and Baltic tribes), which the Muscovite ruler Ivan III unceremoniously destroyed in 1478. According to the Novgorod Chronicle: “Thus did Great Prince Ivan advance with all his host against his domain of Novgorod because of the rebellious spirit of its people, their pride and conversion to Latinism. With a great and overwhelming force did he occupy the entire territory of Novgorod from frontier to frontier, inflicting on every part of it the dread powers of his fire and sword.” Oh, and there goes St. Petersburg, which was founded in 1703 on land inhabited by the Finnic Ingrians and their Swedish conquerors.
That leaves Belarus and Ukraine, which Putin claims were Russian since the days of the Kyivan state called Rus’. Except that they weren’t. The Rus’ state was founded by the Vikings in the 9th century, and the name Rus’ was Scandinavian in origin. As Harvard University historian Serhii Plokhy explains, “Most scholars today believe that the word ‘Rus’’ has Scandinavian roots.” Thus, the “Rus’ Vikings” were “a conglomerate of Norwegian, Swedish and probably Finnish Norsemen,” and not Slavs.
The Scandinavian Rus’ established a state whose inhabitants were primarily East Slavic tribes who spoke their own versions of what eventually would become Ukrainian, Belarusian and Russian. The tribes in the Kyivan core of Rus’ spoke proto-Ukrainian. Those farther north spoke proto-Belarusian; those on the northern periphery spoke proto-Russian. Their languages differed, but so did their cultures and economies. Proto-Ukrainians lived in warmer climes in semi-wooded areas bordering on the Black Earth steppe, where they were directly in touch with Byzantine influences and practiced agriculture. Proto-Russians lived in cold climes and heavily forested areas closer to the non-Slavic peoples of the far north and Siberia and pursued such trades as trapping and logging. The bottom line? Putin would have to leave these historically Ukrainian and Belarusian lands to the Ukrainians and Belarusians.
The Crimean peninsula, so beloved of Russian nationalists, also would have to go, because its inhabitants were — long before the first Muscovite appeared on its shores — Tatars, a Turkic people.
What, then, would be left of the Russian Federation as it currently exists, if the Putin Principle were to be applied across the board? Ve
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If you (individually and collectively) would stop threatening "Trumptards" maybe you wouldn't be seen as a threat.
If you (individually and collectively) would stop threatening Russia, maybe Russia wouldn't see you as a threat.
It's simple, but probably not simple enough for you.
SECOND: The Trumptards and the Russians make claims upon other people's property.
If you (individually and collectively) would stop aquiring other people's property (taxes, inflation, excess profits) maybe you wouldn't be seen as such a threat.
If you (individually and collectively) would stop aquiring other nations (destabilization, regime change, invasion) maybe you wouldn't be seen as such a threat.
Just pointing out there's a whole lot of projection going on, on your part.
Between your lies, libel, self contradictions, threats, projection, baseless accusations, and generally pointless posts, you belong on "ignore".
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Oh, yeah... I'd say "fuck Ukraine" but Biden* and Zelenskiy are doing a pretty good job on that.
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Quote:It is Russia "doing a pretty good job" destroying $trillions of Ukrainian property, so it is Russia's fault for what happens to Ukraine. The usual Russian rhetorical trick is to shift all blame onto Ukraine. The trick goes like this: If only Ukraine would surrender, Russia would stop destroying Ukrainian property. Therefore it is all Ukraine's fault for what Russia has done and will do to Ukraine. I never found that trick persuasive, but Russians think it is absolutely brilliant logic.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, yeah... I'd say "fuck Ukraine" but Biden* and Zelenskiy are doing a pretty good job on that.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:All Ukraine had to do to avoid this clusterfuck was IMPLEMENT THE MISSJ agreement. Yanno, the one they signed that had been approved by the western powers in the UN Security Council.
Originally posted by second:Quote:It is Russia "doing a pretty good job" destroying $trillions of Ukrainian property, so it is Russia's fault for what happens to Ukraine. The usual Russian rhetorical trick is to shift all blame onto Ukraine. The trick goes like this: If only Ukraine would surrender, Russia would stop destroying Ukrainian property. Therefore it is all Ukraine's fault for what Russia has done and will do to Ukraine. I never found that trick persuasive, but Russians think it is absolutely brilliant logic.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, yeah... I'd say "fuck Ukraine" but Biden* and Zelenskiy are doing a pretty good job on that.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Now they're saying -out loud- that the only reason they signed was to buy time to arm up. Then they massed forces on their eastern border in late 2021.
They got what they deserved: being used as a pawn in our fight to destroy Russia. Too bad for them.
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Quote:"IMPLEMENT THE MISSJ agreement"? What a puzzle for me. Oh! You meant "Minsk agreements". The Russians are pretending that they kept their agreements. Like Signym, Russians can't even spell MISSJ. Or is it Minsk? Whatever. Russians are not keeping that agreement, or any other:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
All Ukraine had to do to avoid this clusterfuck was IMPLEMENT THE MISSJ agreement. Yanno, the one they signed that had been approved by the western powers in the UN Security Council.
Now they're saying -out loud- that the only reason they signed was to buy time to arm up. Then they massed forces on their eastern border in late 2021.
They got what they deserved: being used as a pawn in our fight to destroy Russia. Too bad for them.
1) Minsk agreements
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements
2) Russian–Ukrainian Friendship Treaty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian%E2%80%93Ukrainian_Friendship_Tre
aty
3) Russia’s longstanding problem with Ukraine’s borders
https://www.chathamhouse.org/2022/08/russias-longstanding-problem-ukra
ines-borders
Even though formally Ukraine’s territorial integrity was not conditional on belonging to the CIS, the demand for Kyiv’s acquiescence to Russia’s regional ambitions was ever-present.
In the 1995 Sochi accords, Russia confirmed the status of Crimea as part of Ukraine but pushed for exclusive basing rights at Sevastopol as part of a long lease. It was only in May 1997 that Russia and Ukraine finalized details of the BSF division, agreeing on a 20-year lease of the base.
This accord finally opened the way for the ‘Big Treaty’ on friendship, cooperation and partnership concluded in 1997. This treaty secured the formal recognition of Ukraine as an ‘equal and sovereign state’ with the signatories committing to respecting each other’s territorial integrity and the inviolability of ‘existing’ borders.
Completely unsurprising what the Russians did next: In theory the recognition of Ukraine’s independence in 1997 seemed a significant legal milestone. But in practice this was a ruse as Russia continued to question the delimitation and delineation of its border with Ukraine.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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