Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:You are describing NORTH Korea, Russia's protege. According to North Korea, it could whip South Korea and all its allies. It's the NORTH Korean nukes that give the Kim family over-confidence enough to believe they will continue to rule over NORTH Korea, but not enough confidence to actually invade South Korea.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, there have been many discussions about that, SECOND. Does Canada, or Italy, or Belgium have space programs? Do they feed a population of 150 million AND be a major food and commodity exporter? Do they field a million- man army? Have they developed and deployed cutting edge weaponry against which other nations are defenseless? Do they have full employment? Do they have trade and budgetary surpluses? Do they have a stable consumer base?
The reality, SECOND, is that GDP to as measured by the west is a myth. It includes, among other things, the money that homeowners WOULD HAVE BEEN OAUD if they had rented out their homes, cappuccino shops, the price of gasoline, and fees charged for "financial services". In other words, it's bogus. If you look at ACTUAL ORIDUCTION Russia is far ahead.
Some of that North Korean over-confidence has rubbed off on Putin, who isn't as smart as any of the Kims. That is why Putin is in trouble in Ukraine, Russia's equivalent to S. Korea. Russia is a country full of dummies getting beaten up by a smaller and almost as stupid country as Russia. The Ukrainians are good at dying but not so good at hitting targets. The Ukrainians must fire off around $1,000,000 in ammo for every Russian they kill. That is poor marksmanship by Ukrainians. If they don't get far better at targeting, Ukraine will lose.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Quote:No, they'r not.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Plush, it's bullshit.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
Russia took Soledar, is flanking Bakhmut and advancing towards Zaparozhia. I don't know why you trust liars, THUGR.
Because I know the entire story comrade. Like the fact that the Russians are doing kamikaze runs that they cannot sustain. To gain a few feet of land they lose thousands of troops. Like I've said. They cannot keep it up and more and more supplies are entering Ukraine as I type.
tick tock
T
Your "whole story" is completely made up.
Russia pounds Ukie defenses with artillery. For months,if necessary. They cut supply lines with missiles and artillery. They don't go in until Ukie positions have been decimated. Even then, they go in cautiously.
They play to their strength, which is industrial war production, to save their infantry.
Everybody knows that.
Why do you believe liars?
I posted this before comrade. It shows some of what lies ahead for Russia. Watch it this time. It ain't good.
T
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SECOND- Russia is like N Korea???
Phfwaaaaah!
You owe me a new phone!
THUGR: I smell a lot of "if" coming off that video.
1) America for the most part doesn't give a shit about Ukraine, and
2) Even if TPTB "support Ukraine" for whatever purpose (profit, money laundering, ideology, hegemony) with their whole heart and soul (assuming they have either) they won't be successful. Unless they go nuclear. And then, nobody wins
Sorry dood. That's reality.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND- Russia is like N Korea???
Phfwaaaaah!
You owe me a new phone!
THUGR: I smell a lot of "if" coming off that video.
1) America for the most part doesn't give a shit about Ukraine, and
2) Even if TPTB "support Ukraine" for whatever purpose (profit, money laundering, ideology, hegemony) with their whole heart and soul (assuming they have either) they won't be successful. Unless they go nuclear. And then, nobody wins
Sorry dood. That's reality.
Shit, I just posted this in another thread and then I see this. No choice but to post it hear comrade.
T
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Do you really give a fuck about how history is being rewritten?
And what does this have to do with the war in Ukraine and the number of weapons and soldiers each side can field?
I'm trying very hard to understand what options our neocons have in mind. They're trying to stand up a third Ukie army with a hodgepodge of western weapons. Which, AFAIK will be sitting ducks bc
a) they need to be part of a COMBINED arms operation (yanno, including planes, helicopters, artillery, air defenses, tanks... the whole schmeer) in order to be successful
b) the variety of training, maintenance and repair creates impossible logistics. I've heard these weapons described as "single use"... once they break down or are damaged they'll be left on the field.
Stories and videos of men being dragooned off the streets of Lviv. Anticipating Polish soldiers fighting in Ukie uniforms.
Supposedly our military is telling Z to give up on Bakhmut. Fighting trench warfare against the other side that can successfully attrit your side is suicide. Maybe our military is telling Z to become more maneuverable.
BUT THEN WHAT?
Build up your army, preserves your forces by giving up ground, train up for a few months and then...? Attack Crimea? Strike Moscow? Provoke Russians into striking NATO territory to create a pretext for using tactical nukes? I just can't create a winning scenario. Maybe I lack imagination.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Do you really give a fuck about how history is being rewritten?
And what does this have to do with the war in Ukraine and the number of weapons and soldiers each side can field?
I'm trying very hard to understand what options our neocons have in mind. They're trying to stand up a third Ukie army with a hodgepodge of western weapons. Which, AFAIK will be sitting ducks bc
a) they need to be part of a COMBINED arms operation (yanno, including planes, helicopters, artillery, air defenses, tanks... the whole schmeer) in order to be successful
b) the variety of training, maintenance and repair creates impossible logistics. I've heard these weapons described as "single use"... once they break down or are damaged they'll be left on the field.
Stories and videos of men being dragooned off the streets of Lviv. Anticipating Polish soldiers fighting in Ukie uniforms.
Supposedly our military is telling Z to give up on Bakhmut. Fighting trench warfare against the other side that can successfully attrit your side is suicide. Maybe our military is telling Z to become more maneuverable.
BUT THEN WHAT?
Build up your army, preserves your forces by giving up ground, train up for a few months and then...? Attack Crimea? Strike Moscow? Provoke Russians into striking NATO territory to create a pretext for using tactical nukes? I just can't create a winning scenario. Maybe I lack imagination.
T
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Quote:Does the world need North Korea? No.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND- Russia is like N Korea???
Phfwaaaaah!
You owe me a new phone!
Does the world need Russia?
The World Economy No Longer Needs Russia.
That is how Russia and North Korea are very alike.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=1
168341#1168341 or
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/01/19/russia-ukraine-economy-europe-ene
rgy/
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With alternative sources in place, Putin’s attempt at blackmailing Europe on energy has failed. . . .
Even Putin’s other commodities cards are all used up. His gambit to weaponize food abjectly collapsed when even his nominal allies turned on him. And in certain metals markets where Russia historically dominated, such as nickel, palladium, and titanium, blackmail-fearing buyers combined with higher prices have expedited reshoring and reinvigorated dormant public and private investment in critical mineral supply chain and mining projects. These are mostly in North and South America and Africa, home to many undertapped mineral reserves. In fact, in several crucial metals markets, such as cobalt and nickel, the combined output of new mines to be opened in the next two years adds up to more than enough supply to replace Russian metals within global supply chains permanently.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Russia Could Collapse Into 'New States' After Ukrainian Victory
A Ukrainian victory could lead to the fall of the Russia Federation as we know it, according to one European economist.
Timothy Ash, an associate fellow at the international affairs think tank Chatham House, believes it's inevitable that Russian President Vladimir Putin and his army will be defeated by Ukraine. As the war head into its eleventh month, Ash said the real issue looming over Moscow's invasion is what will happen to Putin's Russia, and whether history will repeat itself.
In an op-ed published by the Kyiv Post on Saturday, Ash, who has advised various governments on Ukraine-Russia policy, said that he believes Russia will break off into new states — resulting in the exact opposite of what Putin had hoped to achieve when he launched the invasion into Ukraine almost a year ago.
"I see a decent chance that we see the end of Putin and, while not my base case, I think it's possible we see a collapse of the Federation into many new states — as with the USSR in 1991," Ash wrote.
Given that Russia is currently divided into a total of 89 regions — including 21 republics, 6 federal territories, 2 federal cities (Moscow and St. Petersburg), 49 regions, 1 autonomous region and 10 autonomous areas — Ash predicts that there could be the creation of 20 new states if the Russia Federation collapses.
"Putin started this war to create a Greater Russia, but the likely net effect will be a Lesser Russia," Ash said.
In 1991, the dissolution of the Soviet Union (USSR) resulted in the end of the country's existence as a sovereign state and brought an end to President Mikhail Gorbachev's time as the USSR's de facto leader. It was the 1991 collapse that gave Ukraine its independence, and from which the fraught relations between Russia and Ukraine have unfolded.
Ash is not the only expert who has opined that the war in Ukraine may end in the collapse of Russia.
In a January 7 op-ed for Foreign Policy, Alexander Motyl, a professor of political science at Rutgers University-Newark and a specialist on Ukraine and Russia, said that if Putin were to leave office, it is likely that a "vicious power struggle" would follow, and in turn, "a disintegration of centralized control and breakup of the federation."
"We don't know who will win, but we can confidently predict that the power struggle will weaken the regime and distract Russia from what remains of its war effort," Motyl wrote. "If Russia survives this turmoil, it's likely to become a weak client state of China. If it does not, the map of Eurasia could look very different."
Bruno Tertrais, a geopolitical adviser at the French think tank Institut Montaigne, also said a second collapse of the Soviet Union is likely to come from the war in Ukraine.
"Not only has [Putin] failed to unify the Russian world (russki mir), but his closest neighbors, thanks to the war, now seem to want to emancipate themselves," Tertrais wrote in December.
Janusz Bugajski, a senior fellow at the Jamestown Foundation, has warned that Western policymakers are gravely unprepared for an "impending" collapse of Russia.
"Instead of planning contingencies for external spillovers and capitalizing on Russia's de-imperialization, however, Western officials appear to be stuck in a bygone era, believing they can return to the post-Cold War status quo," he wrote in a January 12 op-ed for Politico.
He said in order for the West to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past, it must not presume that "the current empire is permanent."
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-could-collapse-new-states-ukrainian-vi
ctory-1775841
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America’s Insularity Is A Threat To Its Survival
22 January 2023 by Larry Johnson
I believe that a country’s history shapes how its citizens view themselves and view the world outside their borders. If you accept that as true I believe you can understand why the United States acts as it does in the world. The United States, until now, has faced one existential threat — the Civil War. I count it as existential because the union of the states was at risk and a victory by the Confederacy would have created a very different America.
The creation of the United States by defeating the British imperial power was followed by taking control, at times with force, of the land from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Oh yeah, we defeated Mexico in 1848 and claimed Mexico’s former lands as our own. My point is that at no time since the Civil War has America had to fend off a foreign military invasion. Protected by the oceans and weak neighbors to the south and north (i.e., Mexico and Canada), Americans never had the experience of foreign invaders wreaking havoc. Well, there was Pancho Villa, but he only launched some insignificant border raids and the United States declined to invade Mexico in retaliation.
With no enemies capable of invading America, we developed a sort of Messianic Complex. We went to Europe towards the end of the First World War to “save Europe.” That was followed by saving Europe from the Nazis (at least that’s the narrative taught in elementary and secondary schools). We never saw ourselves as imperial invaders. We simply were going “over there” to provide freedom. At least that is what we told ourselves. While many of the people of Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan and the Balkans would beg to differ, the American mindset in the aftermath of World War II is that our use of military force in foreign theaters had a noble purpose.
The American overseas military missionary adventures always required a villain. In Vietnam it was International Communism. In Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria it was international terrorism, with Iran regularly mentioned as the uber villain that needed to be stopped. Now we have a new, reconstituted villain — the Russians.
Russia, unlike the United States, has a long and bloody history of fending off invaders. That fact has conditioned the Russian people to be pretty prickly when they are confronted with a foreign threat. They dealt with Napoleon, the stumbled when attacked by the Ottoman Empire, the Brits and the French in the Crimea War, and defeated the Nazis. More recently, Russia beat back Islamic insurgents in Chechnya. This history makes Russia deadly serious when it believes it is threatened by foreign invaders.
Which brings me to the current war in Ukraine. The Western meme, fully embraced by the American public, is that Russia is a rapacious imperial power intent on destroying the freedom of the Ukrainian people. Russia, for its part, believes the West is intent on destroying the Russian Federation. Hell, it is not a belief, Western nations have spoken openly of eliminating Putin and breaking Russia into five separate countries.
Vladimir Putin’s attack on Ukraine showed the world that a resurgent Russia means, of necessity, an imperialist Russia. And it revived discussions about whether Russia needs to be “decolonized,” or perhaps “defederalized,” to bury its imperialist ambitions and subdue its military threat. A breakup of today’s Russia, similar to the dissolution of the Soviet Union, is seen as a possible, for some even the most desirable, outcome of a failed Ukraine invasion. Regrets are voiced that the US didn’t make it a goal in the 1990s, when post-Soviet Russia lay in ruins and struggled to hold onto one, tiny secessionist region: Chechnya.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/energy/is-breaking-up-russia-t
he-only-way-to-end-its-imperialism/2022/06/01/e1962c3e-e170-11ec-ae64-6b23e5155b62_story.html
Yep. We got to end that “Russian Imperialism.” This coming from the United States and Europe who actually haveNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
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America’s Insularity Is A Threat To Its Survival
A “global tragedy” could be in store for humanity if the West keeps supplying weapons to Ukraine, Russia’s most senior lawmaker has warned. Vyacheslav Volodin, the speaker of the State Duma, also suggested that Moscow could retaliate with more powerful arms, should its territory be threatened. . . .
On Sunday, Volodin took to Telegram to point out that should the weapons provided by the US and fellow NATO member states be used to “strike civilian cities and to attempt to seize our territories, as they threaten [to do],” Moscow would respond with “more powerful weapons.”
The Russian lawmaker went on to argue that Western officials should be aware of their responsibility to avert such a scenario.
“Taking into consideration the technological superiority of Russian weapons, foreign politicians making such decisions need to understand: this could end up being a global tragedy that would destroy their countries,” Volodin warned.
https://www.rt.com/news/570282-russian-parliament-chair-warns-west/
The stubborn refusal of the political and media class in the United States to even acknowledge the possibility that Russia has legitimate security concerns has set the table for a devastating escalation in the war between Russia and the West. Volodin’s warning should not be ignored. But it is falling on deaf ears in Washington. The failure of the Biden Administration and his political cheerleaders to comprehend that Russia is not going to behave as an abused spouse. The days of pummeling, or trying to pummel, anyone who will not submit to our demands is over. We are likely to witness some event or series of events in the coming weeks and months when America’s imperial impotence will be exposed and Russia will be standing defiant and intact. That is likely to inflict a psychological break in the American belief that we are invincible and protected. Americans will forced to come to grips with a new reality — we are no longer an insular, protected nation.
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