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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Sunday, January 22, 2023 2:15 AM

If you want to read something useful, try this

https://bigserge.substack.com/p/russo-ukrainian-war-the-world-blood

or at least this

https://sonar21.com/if-you-havent-read-big-serge-you-must/

They have maps and everything.

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THG
Sunday, January 22, 2023 4:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

What has been made clear to me is that Russia doesn't have "a" plan, it has a lot of contingencies depending on circumstances.

Also, why the artificial deadline? There are several reasons for Russia to go slow:
Allow international support to catch up
Attrit Ukraine and NATO as much as possible
Avoid a "triggering" incident that will fire up the NATO nations

So that's just you, imposing a narrative over reality, again.

FWIW I have no idea what Russia's plans are. They may switch from a static front/war of attrition to "big arrow" offensives or anything in between. The General Staff doesn't consult with me.


Anyway, I got work to do.





T

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Sunday, January 22, 2023 4:29 AM

Nobody cares.

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Sunday, January 22, 2023 5:00 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

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Plush, it's bullshit.

Russia took Soledar, is flanking Bakhmut and advancing towards Zaparozhia. I don't know why you trust liars, THUGR.

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Sunday, January 22, 2023 5:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What has been made clear to me is that Russia doesn't have "a" plan, it has a lot of contingencies depending on circumstances.

Also, why the artificial deadline? There are several reasons for Russia to go slow:
Allow international support to catch up
Attrit Ukraine and NATO as much as possible
Avoid a "triggering" incident that will fire up the NATO nations

So that's just you, imposing a narrative over reality, again.

FWIW I have no idea what Russia's plans are. They may switch from a static front/war of attrition to "big arrow" offensives or anything in between. The General Staff doesn't consult with me.


Anyway, I got work to do.

Do you recall this from September 15, 2022?
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Russia is fighting with one hand tied behind it's back bc of the self-imposed limits of an SMO. Taking out a significant portion of Ukraine electrical power (and therefore water) should remind you that if Russia were to escalate to an "anti-terrorist" operation (a la Chechnya) it could destroy Ukraine in a couple of days.

First, take out ALL of the grid, substations included. Then, bomb Kiev, starting with it's government buildings, TV stations, internet and telephone relays etc. And then start bombing every known military command center, troop concentrations, border crossings where foreign weapons/troops arrive, railways etc. Russia has got a lot of missiles left. It would be remarkably easy.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11622
00#1162200


If Russia has this capability you wrote about, Signym, it should have used it back in September. But Russia didn't use it, which means either Russians are incompetent at war planning or Russians don't have the weapons you imagine.

I don't know who wins this war, but the longer the Russians delay "bombing every known military command center, troop concentrations, border crossings where foreign weapons/troops arrive, railways etc." means Russia is less likely to have a good future. If Russia wants a better future, Russia better hurry up and win. (Or Russia could evacuate everybody who wants to speak Russian as their first language, declare victory, and withdraw from the war. That could easily be done in two weeks.)

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, January 22, 2023 6:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Do you recall this from September 15, 2022?
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Russia is fighting with one hand tied behind it's back bc of the self-imposed limits of an SMO. Taking out a significant portion of Ukraine electrical power (and therefore water) should remind you that if Russia were to escalate to an "anti-terrorist" operation (a la Chechnya) it could destroy Ukraine in a couple of days.

First, take out ALL of the grid, substations included. Then, bomb Kiev, starting with it's government buildings, TV stations, internet and telephone relays etc. And then start bombing every known military command center, troop concentrations, border crossings where foreign weapons/troops arrive, railways etc. Russia has got a lot of missiles left. It would be remarkably easy.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11622
00#1162200



Talk about hopium...

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Sunday, January 22, 2023 8:15 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

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Plush, it's bullshit.



That's really not even the plus. That just about sums it up.

But yea, there was a time the economy in America was doing great and people could spend the emotional energy giving a shit for all the false narratives.

We ain't there now.

Fuck Ukriane. Fuck Russia. Nobody cares.



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Sunday, January 22, 2023 3:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That's really not even the plus. That just about sums it up.

But yea, there was a time the economy in America was doing great and people could spend the emotional energy giving a shit for all the false narratives.

We ain't there now.

Fuck Ukriane. Fuck Russia. Nobody cares.

Russia has succeeded! But at what? This: The World Economy No Longer Needs Russia

With alternative sources in place, Putin’s attempt at blackmailing Europe on energy has failed.

January 19, 2023, 10:38 AM

By Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, the Lester Crown professor in management practice and a senior associate dean at the Yale School of Management, and Steven Tian, the director of research at the Yale Chief Executive Leadership Institute.

For much of the past year, and since his invasion of Ukraine last February, Russian President Vladimir Putin has been riding high on his supposed energy omnipotence, holding the global economy hostage to his whims. Since last summer, Putin has choked off natural gas supplies to Europe, hoping that Europeans, shivering and without heat during the winter, would turn on their leaders and make it politically infeasible to continue support for Ukraine.

The threat was potent: In 2021, a whopping 83 percent of Russian gas was exported to Europe. Russia’s total global exports of 7 million barrels of oil a day and 200 billion cubic meters (bcm) of piped gas a year accounted for about half of its federal revenue. Even more importantly, Russia’s commodities exports played a crucial role in global supply chains: Europe was reliant on Russia for 46 percent of its total gas supply, with comparable levels of dependence on other Russian products including metals and fertilizer.

Now, as we approach the one-year anniversary of Putin’s invasion, it is apparent that Russia has permanently forfeited its erstwhile economic might in the global marketplace.

Thanks to an unseasonably warm winter in Europe, Putin’s moment of maximum leverage has passed uneventfully, and, as we correctly forecast last October, the biggest victim of Putin’s gas gambit was Russia itself. Putin’s natural gas leverage is now nonexistent, as the world—and, most importantly, Europe—no longer needs Russian gas.

Far from freezing to death, Europe quickly secured alternative gas supplies by pivoting to global liquefied natural gas (LNG). This included an estimated 55 bcm from the United States, two-and-a-half times more than prewar U.S. exports of LNG to Europe. Coupled with increases in supply from renewable sources, nuclear, and, in the interim, coal, these alternative supplies have reduced Europe’s dependence on Russian gas to 9 percent of its total gas imports. In fact, Europe now purchases more LNG than it ever purchased Russian gas.

Furthermore, Europe’s unseasonably warm winter means that not only have the worst-case scenarios been avoided, but Europe’s full storage tanks have barely been drawn down and can carry over into next winter. In January, German storage tanks were a record 91 percent full, up from 54 percent last year, meaning that Europe will need to buy significantly less gas in 2023 than in 2022.

The implications are tremendous. Europe is now assured sufficient energy supply well into 2024 at a minimum, providing enough time for cheaper alternative energy supplies—both renewables and bridge fuels—to be fully onboarded and operating within Europe. This includes the completion of an additional 200 bcm/year in LNG export capacity by 2024—enough to fully and permanently replace Russia’s 200 bcm/year gas exports once and for all.

Furthermore, the days of globally expensive energy amid “Russia-driven supply squeezes” are over for good. In addition to Europe’s lower expected demand for LNG, China is pivoting away from global LNG in favor of domestic sources. Coupled with the rapidly increasing LNG supply, it is little surprise that the gas futures market is now pricing gas to be cheaper than prewar levels for years to come.

Putin, on the other

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Sunday, January 22, 2023 3:50 PM

European leadership on Ukraine comes from smaller nations

“If all other countries had contributed in the same way as Denmark, the Ukrainians would be in a much better position right now,” Danish Defense Minister Jakob Ellemann-Jensen boasted in regard to his country’s astounding disclosure that it was donating its entire stock of 19 CAESAR 155-millimeter self-propelled howitzers to Ukraine.

The Danish contribution of a French-made weapon, one Ukrainian soldiers have classed as an artillery prize on the battlefield, was announced Thursday, on the eve of the Ramstein meeting. Ellemann-Jensen’s remark, one European diplomat told Yahoo News, was not an idle one. For months, smaller, less wealthy countries, particularly those geographically closer to Russia, have been trying to persuade, cajole or shame their bigger, wealthier allies, particularly those at a safe distance from Russia, into doing more for Ukraine. (To put Copenhagen’s commitment in perspective, France, a country with 11 times the population of Denmark and which manufactures the howitzers, has sent only 18 CAESARs to Ukraine.)

“We hear about how difficult it is for some of our allies to source ammunition or deplete their stocks of certain platforms to help Ukraine,” the European diplomat said. “Well, some of us are emptying our arsenals entirely, leaving us far more vulnerable to a Russian attack.”

Indeed, Estonia’s Prime Minister Kaja Kallas tweeted yesterday that her Baltic nation, with a population of just 1.3 million and a shared 183-mile border with Russia, was now donating more than 1% of its gross national product to Kyiv. Estonia's latest security assistance package, according to Kaimo Kuusk, Estonia’s ambassador to Kyiv, includes all of the Estonia armed forces’ FH70 towed howitzers.

More at https://news.yahoo.com/how-germanys-doctor-no-disrupted-allied-unity-o
n-tanks-for-ukraine-223212660.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, January 22, 2023 6:36 PM

Nobody cares.

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