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...It seems some Vaccines work better than others, while others work not so good?

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Friday, March 19, 2021 6:28 PM

Vaccine adverse events? jab or shot injury...It seems some Vaccines work better than others, while others work not so good?

Talk on the net said world Boxing champion Marvelous Marvin Hagler dies from the Covid kill shot??....

I am for vaccines, I support vaccination

If people fear the virus and get the jab to stay healthy and get healthy then good for them

Yet some Vaccines might be better than others. What’s Not Being Said About an AstraZeneca Oxford jab or Pfizer Coronavirus Vaccine, do you really trust that Putin Russian Vaccine the Sputnik-V ?

I support vaccinations

but this Covid thing has to be one of the most rushed vaccination events in human history, some they have tested on Hamsters others they are using People in Live human trails, the person is the human guinea pig
the US, Chinese and Euro citizen is now the someone or something used as the jab test, the subject of an experiment.

The Pirate news style Bill Gates Conspiracy Theorists Might Not Be as Crazy as they seem

Full list of countries that have banned the Oxford/Astrazeneca Covid vaccine
https://www.newsoneplace.com/10477332012/full-oxford-astrazeneca-covid
-countries-banned-vaccine


Boris Johnson declares Oxford AstraZeneca jab safe as panicking EU countries needlessly ban it
https://www.the-sun.com/news/2519279/boris-johnson-oxford-jab-safe/

Bill Gates says Pfizer has the best chance of seeking emergency approval
https://nypost.com/2020/09/15/bill-gates-says-pfizer-has-best-shot-at-
early-covid-19-vaccine
/
A guy who has no history of medical study no biologist qualification a ruthless business guy who stole other peoples software ideas and copied and stole other guys computers and has appeared photographed on the Epstein island is suddenly the USA's medical expert?


Now the wife of the Boxer says the covid jab did not kill him
Marvelous Marvin Hagler's widow says her husband's death wasn't caused by COVID-19 vaccine
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/marvelous-marvin-haglers-widow-says-
her-husbands-death-wasnt-caused-by-covid-19-vaccine
/

Does Pfizer vaccine cause blood clots? Surprising results in study - so why is AZ banned?
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1410702/does-Pfizer-vaccin
e-cause-blood-clots-EVG


What happens if the survival rate for one vaccine is 99% almost 100 percent but not quite, you still have a 1% chance of dying or 1% chance of long term side effects

Maybe your chances of dying from Covid without a vaccine are only 0.05 % so why take a vaccine when fat over weight unhealthy fuck like Chris Christie , who history of asthma, does no fitness routine no exercise and eats junk food ... still survives Corona

What if you have other conditions, reaction to food like Eggs, what if your blood pressure is low, what if you have a rash or allergic reaction near insects, what if your blood is high, and what are the cases for people with reaction to Tree Nuts....it seems with certain rushed jabs they have tried to build a one shoe fits all, when people and humans and their shape and biology come with hundreds of thousands of different layers of complexity that makes us unique

Marvelous Marvin Hagler was a champion up until 1987, he was born in Newark, New Jersey, and moved to after the riots of the 1960s he moved to Massachusetts. He holds or while alive he held the highest knockout percentage of all undisputed middleweight champions
Many sports people and boxing friends and rivals have blasted, COVID-19 vaccine claims relating to Hagler’s cause of death. In 1985 a fight was Won by Hagler by third round knockout, the fight is considered to be the three greatest rounds in boxing history, due to its constant action, drama, and violent back-and-forth exchanges.
Hearns wrote on Instagram, “A real true warrior Pray for the king and his family.. he’s in ICU fighting the after effects of the vaccine!

COVID-19: Blood clots and the Oxford-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine - what does the data say?
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-how-common-have-blood-clots-been-a
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Friday, March 19, 2021 7:35 PM

Marvelous Marvin Hagler's widow says late husband did not die due to COVID-19 vaccine reaction
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2021/03/16/marvelous-marv
in-haglers-death-reason-not-coronavirus-vaccine-wife/4715277001
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The widow of Marvelous Marvin Hagler denounced the Internet rumors that her late husband, the former middleweight champion who died over the weekend, passed away due to a reaction from the coronavirus vaccine.

"I am the only person that (knows) how things went not even his family know all the details and I do NOT accept to read some stupid comment without knowing really what (happened)," Kay Hagler posted in the Marvelous Marvin Hagler Facebook fan group. "For sure wasn't the vaccine that caused his death . My baby left in peace with his usually smile and now is not the time to talk nonsense ."

The speculation appeared to spread after an Instagram post from fellow former boxer Thomas Hearns, who was one of Hagler's rivals in the ring. The anti-vaccine contingent ran with the story, prompting Kay Hagler to post her message.
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So much for that internet bullshit.


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Friday, March 19, 2021 8:15 PM

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So much for that internet bullshit.



A sentiment applied only when it suits you. K


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Saturday, March 20, 2021 1:42 AM

Blasphemer.

It is always just a coincidence when freshly vaccinated people die from covid reaction.

You are now subject to deplatforming, for not conforming to the newly declared truths.

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Saturday, March 20, 2021 9:40 PM

What are the numbers? what are the facts and figures.... the death victim-balance survival rate of the vaccine is still a positive when compared to the virus itself

Conspiracy - SGT Report
CONFIRMED: NO ONE HAS DIED FROM ANY COVID VACCINE...?
https://gab.com/SGTreport/posts/105914053585545554


Danish reporting serious illness, death after AstraZeneca shot

Denmark Reports One Death After Use of AstraZeneca Vaccine, Will Maintain Suspension

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/denmark-reports-one-death-aft
er-use-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-will-maintain-suspension


Denmark reports two cases of serious illness, including one death, after AstraZeneca shot

https://thenationonlineng.net/denmark-reports-two-cases-of-serious-ill
ness-including-one-death-after-astrazeneca-shot
/

Clots after AstraZeneca shot in Denmark
https://thewest.com.au/news/health/clots-after-astrazeneca-shot-in-den
mark-ng-s-2054295


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Saturday, March 20, 2021 10:43 PM

Coronavirus latest news: French stance on AstraZeneca jab 'completely crackers', says Oxford vaccine expert
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavi
rus-news-vaccine-astrazeneca-eu-oxford-uk-cases-lockdown
/

In Aus some time ago a mistake was made, called 'flipper babies' in the pharma industry


The entirely avoidable tragedy of COVID-19 vaccines and pregnant women

https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-entirely-avoidable-tragedy-of-covi
d-19-vaccines-and-pregnant-women-20210309-p5791f.html


Pregnant women tend to be excluded from clinical trials for a range of reasons.

They and their children are thought to be more vulnerable, as certain medications can cross the placenta.

Thalidomide casts a long shadow – despite one of the problems with that drug being it was never properly trialled in pregnant women.

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"Looking for Justice"
1962 bought to light the devastating tragedy of Thalidomide. Marketed as a wonder drug, Thalidomide turned out to be a monster that rendered thousands of babies with life threatening and life altering deformities. The world has never seen such a medical disaster as it saw with Thalidomide and it is estimated approximately 40% of babies damaged by the effects of Thalidomide died in their first year of life.
It's now 2019 and the adults that are living with the effects of thalidomide are simply existing in bodies that are worn out, painful, and unbelievably disabling. The future is bleak and understandably, survivors are scared. For the most part, Thalidomide survivors in Australia have been fiercely independent. Along with their families and loved ones, they have struggled and suffered … but they lived quietly. Today however, their disabilities and general health is being severely impeded upon as they age. After more than 57 years, Thalidomide survivors are looking to the Australian Government to recognize, own, and deliver on its responsibilities.
Attempts to contact our government to discuss the plight of Thalidomide survivors commenced in earnest in 2014. Hundreds of phone calls have been made and letters sent to political Ministers, Members, and media throughout Australia requesting governmental support. Unfortunately replies have been few and generally offered words of sympathy towards our situation … but little else.
In February 2016 (as requested by her office), a proposal was sent to the [then] Minister of Health, Sussan Ley, that would enable Thalidomide survivors in Australia the security needed to move into the future. The proposal was extremely unpretentious when taking into consideration the pain and suffering of those effected by Thalidomide. Responsible governments throughout the world have set up processes to compensate for the past, and financially support their survivors into the future, yet the Australian government has offered nothing. In fact, the evidence of abysmal neglect by the [Liberal] government (over 56 years ago) to protect its citizens against Thalidomide is shameful. The further evidence of that government’s abhorrent involvement to allow the drug to stay on the Australian market (even after they knew of its catastrophic effects), is unpardonable. And further to their total disregard of the Thalidomide disaster, is the fact that the German company responsible for manufacturing Thalidomide is [to this day] still allowed to operate here in Australia unencumbered by sanctions or penalties.



https://www.thalidomidegroupaustralia.com/
Story of Thalidomide
https://thalidomidescandalblog.wordpress.com/

launched in Australia and New Zealand while at the same time being refused by the US Federal Drug Agency

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6024765/Scientists-FINALLY-
discover-thalidomide-caused-birth-defects.html


The common side-effects to expect from a coronavirus vaccination
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/common-side-eff
ects-expect-coronavirus-5202560


Covid-19 vaccination side effects from people who have had the jab
https

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Sunday, March 21, 2021 1:52 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Blasphemer.

It is always just a coincidence when freshly vaccinated people die from covid reaction.

You are now subject to deplatforming, for not conforming to the newly declared truths.

Yet here you are, a lying Russian cunt, lying freely without consequence.


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Sunday, March 21, 2021 1:52 AM

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Sunday, March 21, 2021 12:52 PM

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REAVERBOT: Yet here you are, a lying Russian cunt, lying freely without consequence.
Well, we can always count on you, Roomba, to come up with the same defective response!



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Sunday, March 21, 2021 1:13 PM

When deciding on medical procedures, I don't follow a risk/reward calculation. I look at the risk/risk ratio: There is a risk of doing nothing, and a risk of doing something.

"Doing nothing" means not getting the vaccine, potentially getting sick, and facing a risk of death if you're older than 50. In this case, your risk is the chance of getting sick times the chance of death. Chance of serious complications or death is pretty well-established for age and risk factors, the chance of getting sick depends very much on the community that you live in and the precautiions that you take.

"Doing something" means getting the vaccine, and potentially facing serious complications and side effects. Since, if you get the vaccine, the "chance" of you being vaccinated is "1", then all you need to do is look at the risk of serious complications or death from the vaccine itself. Last I checked, the risk of death from the Pfizer vaccine was about 1:650,000.

Overall, prolly for people over 50 and definitely for people over 60, the vaccine has a favorable relative risk. Not only that, but if there are any effects on fertility, that won't be a factor in that age group. (At least, not for women).


For the under-40, especially those with co-morbidities (chronic live disease seems to have the highest effect) vaccination is still a benefit, since (at current estimate) you have a 1:100 chance of dying from Covid-19 and a 1:20 (or higher) chance of getting the disease (based on serological data), so your risk is still higher than the risk from vaccination.

I suppose you can argue with the basic underlying data and argue about dying "from" Covid v dying "with" Covid, but "excess deaths" (which is an exceptionally straightforward statistic which doesn't require detailed interpretation) indicates that Covid-19 is an even WORSE killer than the stats would indicate, and you'd have to be off by a factor of about 5000 in order for vaccine to be riskier than Covid-19.


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