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Some Covid-19 thoughts

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THG
Tuesday, December 15, 2020 8:11 PM

Deaths

303,482___+1,341

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THG
Wednesday, December 16, 2020 5:41 PM

‘Like a Hand Grasping’: Trump Appointees Describe the Crushing of the C.D.C.

What they witnessed during the coronavirus pandemic this year in the C.D.C.’s leadership suite on the 12-floor headquarters here shook them: Washington’s dismissal of science, the White House’s slow suffocation of the agency’s voice, the meddling in its messages and the siphoning of its budget.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/like-a-hand-grasping-trump-app
ointees-describe-the-crushing-of-the-c-d-c/ar-BB1bYuT8?ocid=msedgntp


We're going to learn so much about Trumps involvements going forward it’s going to anger the country even more. In this case we endured all the negative posts about the C.D.C. from Trump loyalists here, while some of us knew because it was being reported on in real time, and we are independent enough to go where the facts lead, that Trump was destroying the agency from inside and out. A complete betrayal of the American people.



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THG
Wednesday, December 16, 2020 5:54 PM

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THG
Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:41 AM

Covid Deaths

306,014___+2,532




With five weeks left in his term, Trump claims victory on shower head pressure

"Because my hair — I don’t know about you, but it has to be perfect. Perfect.”

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/with-five-weeks-left-trump-claim
s-victory-on-shower-head-pressure/ar-BB1bYGZX?ocid=msedgntp


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THG
Thursday, December 17, 2020 4:06 PM

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THG
Thursday, December 17, 2020 4:58 PM

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California requests 5,000 more body bags as COVID-19 cases surge

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THG
Friday, December 18, 2020 5:33 PM

Deaths

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Friday, December 18, 2020 7:01 PM

562,000 Americans will have died from Covid-19 by April 1, 2021

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-vaccine-u
pdates-12-18-20/h_940f4eda5fbf48df0ea3b6f6b13c07c6


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, December 18, 2020 7:20 PM

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Originally posted by second:
562,000 Americans will have died from Covid-19 by April 1, 2021



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_murder

Wikipedia's entry on this topic "Mass Murder" is qualified by this statement:

"This article is about killing of multiple people by individuals and non-state groups. For killing of people by governments, see Homicide by state actors. For broader coverage of this topic, see Massacre."

So the first part of their entry for "mass murder" starts with:

"Mass murder is the act of murdering a number of people, typically simultaneously or over a relatively short period of time and in close geographic proximity.[1][2] The FBI defines mass murder as murdering four or more people during an event with no "cooling-off period" between the murders. A mass murder typically occurs in a single location where one or more people kill several others.[3][4]

A mass murder may be committed by individuals or organizations whereas a spree killing is committed by one or two individuals. Mass murderers differ from spree killers, who kill at two or more locations with almost no time break between murders and are not defined by the number of victims, and serial killers, who may kill people over long periods of time."

- Wikipedia

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When I first heard someone categorize the Trump administration's handling of covid with that description, "mass murder" I thought they were stretching a bit, overly sensational, just trying to get attention. But over time...

Wikipedia's entry for "For killing of people by governments, see Homicide by state actors." is:

"By state actors
Killings by government agents may be considered lawful or unlawful according to:

Domestic law
International law to which the government has agreed by treaty
Peremptory norms which are de facto enforced as obligatory on all countries, such as prohibitions against genocide, piracy, and slavery
Types of state killings include:

Capital punishment, where the judicial system authorizes the death penalty in response to a severe crime, though some countries have abolished it completely
Lawful killing during war, such as the killing of enemy combatants
Lawful use of deadly force by law enforcement officers to maintain public safety in emergency situations.
Extrajudicial killing, where government actors kill people (typically individuals or small groups) without judicial court proceedings
War crimes that involve killing (war crimes not authorized by the government may also be committed by individuals who are then subject to domestic military justice)
Widespread, systematic killing by the government of a particular group, which depending on the target, could be called genocide, politicide, or classicide. In some cases these events may also meet definitions of crimes against humanity.
Scholars study especially large homicide events (typically 50,000 deaths in five years or less) as mass killings. Some medium- and large-scale mass killings by state actors have been termed massacres, though not all such killings have been so named. The term democide has been coined by Rudolph Rummel to describe "murder by government" in general, which includes both extrajudicial killings and widespread systematic homicide.

Killings by government agents might be called "murder" or "mass murder" in general usage, especially if seen by the commentator as unethical, but the domestic legal definitions of murder, manslaughter, etc., usually exclude killings carried out by lawful government action."

- Wikipedia

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Trump and his admin clearly have no love or respect for their own base, and surely they hate anyone who votes for Biden - so who's left? Just the immediate Trump loyalists in his immediate circle.

Something to consider when thinking of their actions or lack of actions. "Let them get infected."

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Friday, December 18, 2020 7:28 PM

Fox host: People who wear masks “treat it as a virtue signal that they're better, more scientific minded, smarter than you”
https://www.mediamatters.org/coronavirus-covid-19/fox-host-people-who-
wear-masks-treat-it-virtue-signal-theyre-better-more


WILL CAIN (CO-HOST, Fox & Friends Weekend): You walk around in your daily life, how do people treat masks? They don't treat so much as a protective mechanism. They treat it as a virtue signal that they're better, more scientific minded, smarter than you. This is running rampant, and it really is the dividing line in our society now — the elites versus everyone else they view as the little people.
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First of all, when anyone calls any compassionate or informed action "virtue signaling," they're a fascist stooge.

Fascists are narcissists, so they can't conceive of the idea that a person could care about anyone other than themselves. It just doesn't compute in their tiny, defective minds.

The stupid just oozes out of these trumptards. They are pathetic. They will not be missed.





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