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Thursday, September 28, 2023 12:24 AM

I wanted to follow up in this thread because it is the very beginnings of the story, including the first credible evidence that Covid was lab-made, as explained by Chris Martenson.


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"A CIA Front Organization": Revisiting EcoHealth COVID-19 Claims After Fauci 'Influence' Campaign Bombshell

Wednesday, Sep 27, 2023 - 08:05 AM

Following Tuesday night's bombshell report from Congressional investigators that Dr. Anthony Fauci was smuggled into CIA headquarters "without a record of entry" where he "participated in the analysis to "influence" the Agency's" Covid-19 investigation," it's worth revisiting claims made by former EcoHealth Alliance scientist, Andrew Huff, about the CIA's alleged connections to EcoHealth and Covid-19.

A Brief Review

Recall that EcoHealth received lucrative contracts [from NIH] to perform experiments on bat Covid in Wuhan, China after the Obama administration banned gain-of-function research in 2014. Four months prior to the ban, the NIH effectively shifted this research to EcoHealth, headed by Peter Daszak. The research was shielded from government oversight by Fauci's NIAID, and Daszak was forced to report after the fact that he'd engaged in gain-of-function experiments.


"As a virologist, I personally think creating chimeras of SARS-related bat coronaviruses that are thought to pose high risk to humans entails unacceptable risks," virologist Jesse Bloom told The Intercept.

After Sars-CoV-2 broke out in the same town where Daszak was manipulating Bat Covid, The Lancet published a screed by Daszak (signed by over two-dozen scientists), which insisted the virus could have only come from a natural spillover event, likely from a wet market, and that the scientists "stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin." The Lancet only later noted Daszak's conflicts of interest.

Back To Huff And The CIA

According to a January, 2022 Twitter (now "X") thread by Huff, who worked at EcoHealth from 2014 to 2016, "I knew in December of 2019 that COVID was likely a lab leak." Huff then claimed that "Not only is EcoHealth Alliance a CIA front organization, but the United States of America is primarily responsible for COVID, not China."

Huff also told Fox Business in January: "This was actually a failed intelligence operation. We were actually trading China advanced biotechnology for access to and collect intelligence on their bioweapons laboratory. I believe. I can’t prove that but a number of agencies that I discuss in the book, including Dr. Peter Daszak telling me he worked with the CIA."



I note that what Huff says is an allegation.

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From Huff's book, "The Truth About Wuhan":

"These discussions resulted in publications indicating [?] that Dr. Peter Daszak, president of EcoHealth Alliance, was working with the CIA, and that the biological agent commonly known as COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2) had been in development at EcoHealth Alliance since 2012, and other evidence suggested that SARS-CoV-2 began earlier than 2012. The development of SARS-CoV-2 included several prominent US-based scientists and US academic institutions that received funding from numerous federal government agencies and private non-governmental organizations to complete the gain of function work on SARS-CoV-2."

Huff also posted a document obtained by Project Veritas and published in January of 2022 purportedly authored (and not denied) by Maj. Joseph Murphy (USMC), which states "SARS-CoV-2 is an American-created recombinant bat vaccine" which was "created by an EcoHealth Alliance program at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV)."

Project Veritas has obtained a separate report to the Inspector General of the Department of Defense written by U.S. Marine Corp Major, Joseph Murphy, a former DARPA Fellow.

The

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Friday, September 29, 2023 12:39 AM

The thread title for this always seemed to make it sorta science-y, as if the topic was related to svcience or a mystery.

So the new Congressional Testimony about Fauci covertly visiting the CIA in 2020 in order to shovel bribes their way, to change their investigative conclusions to not implicate Fauci's crime - seems to conflict with that fallacy which was presumed.

Sounds like, since he "retired" in 2022, he has increased his wealth by $11M.

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Sunday, October 1, 2023 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The thread title for this always seemed to make it sorta science-y, as if the topic was related to svcience or a mystery.

So the new Congressional Testimony about Fauci covertly visiting the CIA in 2020 in order to shovel bribes their way, to change their investigative conclusions to not implicate Fauci's crime - seems to conflict with that fallacy which was presumed.

Sounds like, since he "retired" in 2022, he has increased his wealth by $11M.

Even M$M is now reporting on this, I keep hearing news clips about it. Did they need to wait until he was out of office before waking up?

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Thursday, October 12, 2023 4:57 AM

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Out-Of-Hospital Cardiac Arrests Spiked In 2021, Study Finds


Except that's not what the study found. What it found was that cardiac arrests spiked in 2020 AND 2021.

Typical clickbait headline.


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COVID-19 contributed to the downturn in survival, but only a little, the researchers said. They pegged it as responsible for 18.5 percent of the downturn.
People who were still alive when responders arrived were tested for Covid

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The major factors, they said, included social isolation that led to fewer observed events, a delay in health care workers treating patients due to updated equipment and resuscitation protocols, and hampered emergency response times. The factors were described as Utstein characteristics.

"OHCA survival was poorer during the pandemic years, largely owing to changes in systemwide Utstein characteristics, as opposed to patient-specific acute SARS-CoV-2 infection," Jennifer Liu, an epidemiologist at the Seattle and King County Department of Public Health, and her coauthors wrote. SARS-CoV-2 causes COVID-19.

Other groups have also said that indirect reasons for the lowered survival rate and increased occurrence rate could stem from reasons such as delayed response times.



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Thursday, October 12, 2023 12:05 PM

Yup.

I deserve a whole lot of apologies that I'm never going to get.

But what else is new?

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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2024 11:41 AM

I think I have covid again, the past week. or 2.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2024 11:41 AM

I think I have covid again, the past week. or 2.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2024 11:41 AM

I think I have covid again, the past week. or 2.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2024 12:48 PM

I hope you get better soon, JSF!

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Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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Thursday, August 15, 2024 8:18 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I think I have covid again, the past week. or 2.

I had planned to make a post on Monday night. But it took so long to find this thread, I ran out of time and energy, and went asleep. Going through pages and pages of useless Thuggery bumps of useless Thuggery threads, pages of senseless Thuggery proclamations of FAKE NEWS claims, plus pages of our resident illiterate posting nonsense into unrelated threads from decades ago, took a while to wade through.


It took me a while to suss out that I had covid this time. It snuck up on me, and it changed.

After my 3rd covid, I conjured I would not notice subsequent bouts, because each episode was more mild than before.
Each of them had, for me:
gradual onset of rheumatoid arthritis, which I had not known before what it was, but had always been a response to BGH for me.
vomiting and diarrhea, often violent and/or uncontrollable.
hacking cough. Because I have allergies, hacking and coughing are symtoms of every day of my life.
never any respiratory issues or distress.

This time, I had some respiratory symptoms. I don't think I have ever had some of this, so I didn't recognize it,m particularly with the buildup of problems, and snowballing lack of sleep/rest - the brain fog.
I was becoming concerned with the part about not being able to breathe, not breathe deeply, and the gradual sense of drowning in my own lungs - until I finally realized this was actually a description of a symptom of covid which I had read about.
This is a scary one. Not being able to breathe (I had thought it was some work-related thing from a new environment. )It was sort of always there, but I could handle it (ignore it) enough when my ribcage was upright - sitting or standing. Lying down on my back was the worst - at least it would be enough to trigger a serious coughing spasm which brought me out of that position. Lying on either side of my ribcage provided enough relief that I could stay there a while. But lying on the back is deadly with this symptom - you would suffocate.
I had no joint inflammation - arthritis.
The vomit and diarrhia were annoying, but I conjured I was just normal sick.
Sinus congestion and headaches - normal for allergies.
I was coping, going through lots of aspirin, and taking Claritin - for the first time ever, I think. 1 Quart serving of chicken noodle soup broth. Even had a nutrition drink, to supplement my vitamin, mineral intake.
These didn't seem to help. And the most alarming symptom, not being able to breathe, seemed to be progressing worse. Brain fog from fatigue made everything more challenging.


Anyhow, I think that is the post that I intended to make on Monday night. Symptoms for me had changed drastically from prior bouts, and they sounded more like mainstream reports of symptoms.
This seemed to have merits to disclosure, for those interested in the topic.

BTW, I have never been diagnosed with covid, nor ever gotten the Jab.



However,


This episode will be continued in a more appropriate thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63698&p=3#1
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