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Sunday, October 17, 2021 12:04 AM


Thanks for the biorxiv link. A COVID-19 nasal spray should theoretically be better protection against infection, since infection happens in the mucous membranes and those membranes aren't triggered to develop antibodies after injection.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2021 5:49 AM

Covid insanity?

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Originally posted by second:

Dozens of researchers tell Nature they have received death threats, or threats of physical or sexual violence.



Sounds like they are extremists


Biden ran an election ansd said he would do things different than Trump, so the media says Kamala and Biden would do things different when he got elected

Some say Instead the Biden Admin has more than DOUBLED the Deaths under Trump? ... I'm not sure because there is that transition peroid between the election and the Presidency that began with his inauguration on January 20, 2021
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/oct/8/more-americans-have-di
ed-covid-under-biden-trump-j
/

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/biden-covid-death-tracker/

This site says 323,000 Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office


USA Cases 46,382,000
India 34,201,357
Brazil 21,735,560

USA Deaths 757,000
Brazil 605,804
India 455,100

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Tuesday, October 26, 2021 8:36 AM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Covid insanity?

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Originally posted by second:

Dozens of researchers tell Nature they have received death threats, or threats of physical or sexual violence.



Sounds like they are extremists



Fictitious or not, the claims Second says they were making are nothing more than the dog whistle the Leftists use today to grant them complete immunity from scrutiny.



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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Tuesday, October 26, 2021 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
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Originally posted by second:

Dozens of researchers tell Nature they have received death threats, or threats of physical or sexual violence.


I went back to page 50 of this thread and didn't find SECOND's original post with this phrase.

The article does exist though. Here's the link: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02741-x
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... in Nature’s survey, more than two-thirds of researchers reported negative experiences as a result of their media appearances or their social media comments, and 22% had received threats of physical or sexual violence. Some scientists said that their employer had received complaints about them, or that their home address had been revealed online. Six scientists said they were physically attacked (see Supplementary information for survey data tables).

Coordinated social-media campaigns and threatening e-mails or phone calls to scientists are not new: topics such as climate change, vaccination and the effects of gun violence have drawn similar attacks in the past. But even scientists who had a high profile before COVID-19 told Nature that the abuse was a new and unwelcome phenomenon tied to the pandemic. Many wanted the extent of the problem discussed more openly. “I believe national governments, funding agencies and scientific societies have not done enough to publicly defend scientists,” one researcher wrote in their survey response.

Some researchers say that they have learnt to cope with the harassment, accepting it as an unpleasant but expected side effect of getting information to the public. And 85% of survey respondents said that their experiences of engaging with the media were always or mostly positive, even if they were harassed afterwards (see ‘Media experiences’). “I think scientists need training for how to engage with the media and also about what to expect from trolls — it’s just a part of digital communication,” one wrote.

But Nature’s survey suggests that even though researchers try to shrug off abuse, it might already have had a chilling effect on scientific communication. Those scientists who reported higher frequencies of trolling or personal attacks were also most likely to say that their experiences had greatly affected their willingness to speak to the media in the future (see ‘Chilling effect?’).

Well, that's what trolls do ... derail opposing opinions with trolling.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2021 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I went back to page 50 of this thread and didn't find SECOND's original post with this phrase.



He just said it a few days ago. Maybe a week.

Already deleted it, huh?

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Tuesday, October 26, 2021 2:41 PM


So I looked and there was no post from SECOND related to that at all. He didn't delete it so it's either a lot further back in this thread or it's from a different thread.

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Friday, November 5, 2021 12:05 AM

Well, Israel has done another useful study on COVID-19

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Researchers have succeeded in identifying the proteins in the coronavirus that can damage blood vessels

... Now, for the first time, a team of experts led by Tel Aviv University has been able to identify 5 of the 29 proteins that make up the virus that are responsible for damaging blood vessels. The researchers hope that the identification of these proteins will help develop targeted drugs for COVID-19 that reduce vascular damage.


... "We see a very high incidence of vascular disease and blood clotting, for example stroke and heart attack, among COVID patients," says Dr. Ben Maoz. "We tend to think of COVID as primarily a respiratory disease, but the truth is that coronavirus patients are up to three times more likely to have a stroke or heart attack. All the evidence shows that the virus severely damages the blood vessels or the endothelial cells that line the blood vessels. However, to this day the virus has been treated as one entity. We wanted to find out which proteins in the virus are responsible for this type of damage."

The novel coronavirus is a relatively simple virus -- it comprises a total of 29 different proteins (compared to the tens of thousands of proteins produced by the human body). The Tel Aviv University researchers used the RNA of each of the COVID-19 proteins and examined the reaction that occurred when the various RNA sequences were inserted into human blood vessel cells in the lab; they were thereby able to identify five coronavirus proteins that damage the blood vessels.

"When the coronavirus enters the body, it begins to produce 29 proteins, a new virus is formed, that virus produces 29 new proteins, and so on," explains Dr. Maoz. "In this process, our blood vessels turn from opaque tubes into kind of permeable nets or pieces of cloth, and in parallel there is an increase in blood clotting. We thoroughly examined the effect of each of the 29 proteins expressed by the virus, and were successful in identifying the five specific proteins that cause the greatest damage to endothelial cells and hence to vascular stability and function. In addition, we used a computational model developed by Prof. Sharan which allowed us to assess and identify which coronavirus proteins have the greatest effect on other tissues, without having seen them 'in action' in the lab."

According to Dr. Maoz, the identification of these proteins may have significant consequences in the fight against the virus. "Our research could help find targets for a drug that will be used to stop the virus's activity, or at least minimize damage to blood vessels."


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/11/211103105014.htm

Now, one of the things the articles (I read several) DON'T tell us is whether one or more of those five critical proteins is a spike protein. (Different proteins make up the SARS-CoV2 virus: spike, membrane, envelope, and nucleocapsid. It's not just spike protein, which everyone has been focusing on.)


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Friday, November 5, 2021 1:55 AM


THANKS for the extremely informative post, Signy!

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Friday, November 5, 2021 11:03 PM

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Pfizer Shares Surge After Release Of 'Miracle' COVID Pill That Is 89% Effective At Preventing Hospitalization
Friday, Nov 05, 2021 - 07:27 AM

Thursday was a rough day for Moderna shares after the company released revenue figures and FY guidance that deeply disappointed Wall Street expectations (potentially destroying the reputation of financier Steve Weiss, arguably Moderna's biggest promoter on Wall Street, in the process). But on Friday, Pfizer - Moderna's biggest rival - rubbed Moderna's nose in it by announcing a revolutionary new oral COVID antiviral similar to the Merck 'miracle pill' that won approval from UK regulators yesterday.

The news sent Pfizer's stock surging, while Moderna and Merck shares tumbled, during premarket trade. Pfizer shares were trading up 11%+:

The key takeaway from the Pfizer announcement is this: Pfizer said studies showed its COVID-19 pill reduced hospitalizations and deaths in high-risk patients by 89%. That's even higher than the 50% reduction in hospitalizations and deaths shown by the Merck pill. Again, like Merck, Pfizer said that it was no longer taking new patients in a clinical trial of the treatment "due to the overwhelming efficacy" of the drug, which it now plans to submit its findings to the FDA for emergency authorization (just like Merck is doing). Yesterday, Merck won approval for its new COVID antiviral, molnupiravir, from regulators in the UK, and it's pushing to wrack up as many EUAs as possible from regulators from all over.

Pfizer is already planning to seek approval emergency approval from the US government because, according to the numbers, its drug is even more effective than molnuiravir. According to the headline numbers, Pfizer's new antiviral is even more effective than the rival pill from Merck. Pfizer’s pill, which will be sold under the brand name Paxlovid, cut the risk of hospitalization or death by 89% when taken within three days after symptoms emerge (the number for Merck's drug was it needed to be taken within 5 days of infection).

“The results are really beyond our wildest dreams,” said Annaliesa Anderson, a Pfizer executive who led the drug’s development. She expressed hope that Paxlovid “can have a big impact on helping all our lives go back to normal again and seeing the end of the pandemic.”

It's expected the new drug will be made available in the US at least but in limited quantities at first.

Criticisms have also been made about the cost of molnupiravir, and Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla already affirmed on CNBC that a course of the drug will cost insurers or customers around $700 (though the firm says it intends to sell the drug at a "discounted" prices to "poorer countries".

Per the NYT:

The U.S. government has been in negotiations with Pfizer for enough pills for 1.7 million courses of treatment, with an additional option for 3.3 million, according to a senior administration official. That is about the same quantity that the United States has ordered from Merck. The government expects to pay about $700 per treatment course for both drugs, the official said.

Both the Pfizer and Merck pills are both geared toward patients regarded as high-risk, including those above the age of 60 or with conditions like obesity that make them more susceptible to severe consequences from COVID.

But while experts again touted the drug's safety profile, several scientists have spoken out about potential safety risks tied to molnupiravir, the Merck drug.

Another important question: what does this mean now for President Biden's increasingly coercive vaccine mandate?


https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pfizer-shares-surge-after-release-mi
racle-covid-pill-89-effective-preventing


MORE ABOUT PAXLOVID

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Paxlovid works by blocking the activity of a certain COVID enzyme called SARS-CoV-2-3CL, according to Pfizer. The COVID virus needs

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Saturday, November 6, 2021 3:16 AM


Meanwhile, I checked in with CNN (which I consider raw-meat-splatter in terms of news) to see what the m$m is doing.

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Europe facing 500,000 more Covid deaths by February, WHO warns
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/04/europe/europe-covid-winter-who-proj
ection-intl/index.html

Europe is facing a potentially devastating winter that could see half a million people die with Covid-19, the World Health Organization (WHO) warned on Thursday ...
Much of Europe is battling spikes in infections, with Germany on Thursday reporting its highest number of daily new cases since the pandemic began.

Will 'Europe' really face up to 1/2B COVID-19 deaths this winter as warned by the WHO? As with any prediction - it remains to be seen.

But this article is yet another example of misreporting. Or maybe it's WHO that's putting out incomplete and potentially misleading communiqués. I wouldn't know because CNN didn't link the WHO notice.

Anyway, the entire article focuses on cases, and not deaths; and reports each area without context either to the global situation or to internal factors.

For example, the article highlights Germany as an area of concern because of rising 'cases' (per capita). But deaths aren't rising (per capita) and its 'vaccination rate' is over 70% (fully vaccinated figures aren't available). Is Germany going to have a problem? Maybe not.

OTOH Russia and Eastern Europe are showing the same spike in 'cases' (per capita), but unlike Germany their deaths are also going up (per capita), while vaccination rates (same caveats) are about 40%. Are they gong to have a problem? I'd say definitely yes.

But you can also look at - say the US - figures and see that the US has both Germany and Russia beat when it comes to 'cases' (per capita). So why is the UN focusing on 'Europe'? And why is CNN writing about Germany at all?

Reporting is at best biased.

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