He was on suicide watch and then commited suicide
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SECONDRATE... Bill Clinton did one thing which made the Great Recession possible, and another thing which made it worse.
The thing that he did which made it possible is that he pushed for, and got, the Commodities Futures Modernization Act, which deregulated Credit Default Swaps. Instead of "spreading" risk, Credit Default Swaps propagated risk by allowing banks to swap (or sell) swaps of UNKNOWN QUALITY to each other. So instead of stabilizing banks, when one started to topple it sratted to take the others down with it.
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The 2008 Financial Crisis
Before the financial crisis of 2008, there was more money invested in credit default swaps than in other pools. The value of credit default swaps stood at $45 trillion compared to $22 trillion invested in the stock market, $7.1 trillion in mortgages and $4.4 trillion in U.S. Treasury. In mid-2010, the value of outstanding CDS was $26.3 trillion.
Many investment banks were involved, but the biggest casualty was Lehman Brothers investment bank, which owed $600 billion in debt, out of which $400 billion was covered by CDS. The bank’s insurer, American Insurance Group, lacked sufficient funds to clear the debt, and the Federal Reserve of the United States needed to intervene to bail it out.
Companies that traded in swaps were battered during the financial crisis. Since the market was unregulated, banks used swaps to insure complex financial products.
https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/finance/cred
it-default-swap-cds/
The OTHER thing that Bill Clinton did which made things worse, was that he pushed for, and got, a repeal of Glass Steagall, which allowed previously stable "savings banks" to participate in the complex MBAs and CDSs and CDOs. My very own bank, WAMU, went belly up in 2008 because of that, and was taken over by JPMChase.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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Quote:Oh yeah, THIS from the guy who thought that Trump was a Russian puppet and who REPEATEDLY said that I was a Russian troll???
Story time with SNIGLET.
"Some say..."
"I don't know for sure ..."
But lack of knowledge won't stop me from smearing people with speculation and innuendo...
At least I point out that it's speculation. YOU, OTOH, repeat fables as if they were fact.
Oh and BTW, you repeatedly posted that I made money being a "Russian troll" and insinuated that I got my orders from the Kremlin. You then said that you "never believed" that I was a Russian troll. And later, you said you "corrected" your post.
So just OOC, which statement do you now disavow? The ones where you said I'm a paid Russian troll? Or the one where you said you never believed that I was? Yanno, just for legal purposes.

Back to Epstein ....
If Epstein was on suicide watch and committed suicide anyway, heads should roll. If Epstein WASN'T on suicide watch, heads should roll. How in holy hell does a guy in Federal custody, in the same jail where they held "El Chapo" Guzman before HIS trial, a promoter of dozens if not hundreds of criminal acts by the rich and powerful, wind up dead???
I'm not blaming the Clintons btw. They're not powerful enough to arrange for this guy's death. But there are people in our government and outside of it who make their living assassinating people. What makes you think they restrict their activities to foreign countries?
There is a war going on, CC. The spying on the Trump campaign, the WH/DOJ/FBI/CIA effort to implicate the guy in a false charge, the ongoing organized media campaign to smear him with an untruth, the involvement of MI6, Australian and Ukrainian governments to create this story, the constant false flags designed to derail his foreign policy .... surely you must be now realize there is embedded in ourgovernment (and others) and the media a group of people not under a shred of democratic control who are working to impose their policies on us whether we voted for it or not.
You may see it as a good thing ("the resistance" in government) and I see it as a bad thing, but either way we both should acknowledge that there is an intelligence and media-linked organization unbeholden to any of us, doing what they want to do by dirty tricks and propaganda.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Oh yeah, THIS from the guy who thought that Trump was a Russian puppet and who REPEATEDLY said that I was a Russian troll???
Story time with SNIGLET.
"Some say..."
"I don't know for sure ..."
But lack of knowledge won't stop me from smearing people with speculation and innuendo...
At least I point out that it's speculation. YOU, OTOH, repeat fables as if they were fact.
Oh and BTW, you repeatedly posted that I made money being a "Russian troll" and insinuated that I got my orders from the Kremlin. You then said that you "never believed" that I was a Russian troll. And later, you said you "corrected" your post.
So just OOC, which statement do you now disavow? The ones where you said I'm a paid Russian troll? Or the one where you said you never believed that I was? Yanno, just for legal purposes.
I swear, one of these days you're gonna hurt yourself making sh*t up.
Now Trump, I know he's a Russian Troll. You're just a big mouth @sshat.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If Epstein was on suicide watch and committed suicide anyway, heads should roll. If Epstein WASN'T on suicide watch, heads should roll. How in holy hell does a guy in Federal custody, in the same jail where they held "El Chapo" Guzman before HIS trial, a promoter of dozens if not hundreds of criminal acts by the rich and powerful, wind up dead???
I'm not blaming the Clintons btw. They're not powerful enough to arrange for this guy's death. But there are people in our government and outside of it who make their living assassinating people. What makes you think they restrict their activities to foreign countries?
There is a war going on, CC. The spying on the Trump campaign, the WH/DOJ/FBI/CIA effort to implicate the guy in a false charge, the ongoing organized media campaign to smear him with an untruth, the involvement of MI6, Australian and Ukrainian governments to create this story, the constant false flags designed to derail his foreign policy .... surely you must be now realize there is embedded in ourgovernment (and others) and the media a group of people not under a shred of democratic control who are working to impose their policies on us whether we voted for it or not.
You may see it as a good thing ("the resistance" in government) and I see it as a bad thing, but either way we both should acknowledge that there is an intelligence and media-linked organization unbeholden to any of us, doing what they want to do by dirty tricks and propaganda.
Yup - they got those in Russia too, sweetie, even though you'll never admit it. Difference being Putin can disappear people in the way really dim people claim the Clintons have. And who do you suppose Putins Deep State wants to mess with?
So, can you think of any reason the Clintons have never been charged with any murders? Even civil action like in the OJ case, where it was so obvious as to their guilt - as so many republicans claim - that surviving relatives took action.
But with the Clintons nothing?
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A medium blog post
Maxwell is Mari?
https://medium.com/p/5819545bba24/
crazynights like q-anon cryptic
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Mari has proof of many of his old dealings, going back all the way to her own father’s era. Her father (a monster himself), had helped the oligarch in the late 80's-early 90’s. Her father who was murdered, despite findings of “suicide”. Her same father whose murder was alleged to be ordered by Russian oligarchs for his waste of tens of millions of their money he was supposed to be laundering. In fact, this Russian oligarch and Mari have many similar friends — in politics; Hollywood; and in sitting government positions today.
The Russian also knows that Mari is clever enough to be sure that if she meets an untimely demise? Much of that proof will certainly be made public. That would be a disaster for the Russian, and many of the most powerful people in politics (both sides of the aisle); global business, and entertainment/media. None of them want that.
Some have speculated that Mari’s father never actually died, by suicide nor by murder — and that some of his former associates in foreign government security services had helped arrange his disappearance. It is with that in mind that Mari has contacted this Russian lately. According to the Russian oligarch, there is no way she can make it out of her current situation in one piece. The best she can hope for is to arrange a “suicide” or “murder” of her own that will allow her to slip off the map undetected. She still has tens of millions of Monster’s money along with her own to help her vanish.
Because if she can’t do it? Many others will make sure she does die, for real.
The British Royals named, the Vatican maybe connecting, French models sent, and lot of Jews and Israeli but Eastern Europe ... too many russia oligarch to name ... who sticks out with the symbols, which models went tot he island?
Was there some Russian dude who wanted to gift Naomi Campbell a Babylon Masonic Horus-Eye Style Mansion/Lair
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Quote:Don't let your brain explode - nobody needs to see your explosive diarrhea.
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:Quote:Hmm, the Putin Stooges are a little sensitive that Bill Clinton prolly wouldn't have the pull to get him murdered, I mean, HE'S NOT THE PRESIDENT.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But enough personal sniping for now.
I wonder which person HAS an army of zombie-followers that would be happy to kill something that could take down their glorius
Most reasonable folk understand that the vast majority of Career Criminals are Democrats, and Libtards. Most reasonable folk understand that the Officers of Corrections, Prisons, Jails, etc are Union Members, and Unions support Democraps. And most folk understand that Manhattan is wallowing in on of the most corrupt hellholes the Democrats have been able to develop, including the District Attorneys, the Corrections Officials and supervisors, and almost anybody in and around NYC.
Too bad that BungBetty finds herself excluded from the "reasonable folk" category.
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Quote:Why can you never stay on topic?
Originally posted by trollbot:Quote:Signym, the Final Report of the National Commission on the Causes of the Financial and Economic Crisis of the United States calls you a blatant liar.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Some say that Bill Clinton had deep connections with the CIA. Some say. Now, I don't know for sure whether he did or didn't, but I CAN say that his big policies were very VERY favorable to bankers and financialists, and played a large part in the Great Recession of 2008.
www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-FCIC/pdf/GPO-FCIC.pdf
According to the Final Report of the National Commission on the Causes of the Financial and Economic Crisis of the United States, between 2001 and 2007, mortgage debt rose nearly as much as it had in the whole rest of the nation's history. At about the same time, home prices doubled. Around the country, armies of mortgage salesmen hustled to get Americans to borrow more money for houses—or even just prospective houses. Many salesmen didn’t ask borrowers for proof of income, job or assets. Then the salesmen were gone, leaving behind a new debtor holding new keys and perhaps a faint suspicion that the deal was too good to be true.
www.history.com/news/2008-financial-crisis-causes
Signed by Ronald Reagan, the Gramm-Rudman Act was the real villain. It allowed banks to engage in trading profitable derivatives that they sold to investors. These mortgage-backed securities needed home loans as collateral. The derivatives created an insatiable demand for more and more mortgages.
Hedge funds and other financial institutions around the world owned the mortgage-backed securities. The securities were also in mutual funds, corporate assets, and pension funds. The banks had chopped up the original mortgages and resold them in tranches. That made the derivatives impossible to price.
Why did stodgy pension funds buy such risky assets? They thought an insurance product called credit default swaps protected them. A traditional insurance company known as the American International Group sold these swaps. When the derivatives lost value, AIG didn't have enough cash flow to honor all the swaps.
The first signs of the financial crisis appeared in 2007. Banks panicked when they realized they would have to absorb the losses. They stopped lending to each other. They didn't want other banks giving them worthless mortgages as collateral. No one wanted to get stuck holding the bag. As a result, interbank borrowing costs, called Libor, rose. This mistrust within the banking community was the primary cause of the 2008 financial crisis.
www.thebalance.com/2008-financial-crisis-3305679
Gramm-Rudman was an early attempt to Balance the Budget, despite Democraps demands to spend spend spend spend spend.
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Quote:That's what you and your buddies do every time you call us 'Russians', you used asswipe. It's the theme you live by.
Originally posted by CEREALMUSH:
But lack of knowledge won't stop me from smearing people with speculation and innuendo...
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Here It Is… Complete List of Clinton Associates Who Allegedly Died Mysteriously or Committed Suicide Before Testimony, Including Jeffrey Epstein
Jim Hoft August 11, 2019
On Saturday multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein, the highest profile prisoner in US custody, was found dead in his prison cell in Manhattan.
This occurred the day after two thousand previously sealed court documents involving the Jeffrey Epstein child sex abuse case were released to the public.
The documents described how Bill Clinton held a private party on Jeffrey Epstein’s pedophile island.
Clinton made at least 27 times trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s private plane. Most of those flights were with underage girls.
Despite a previous attempt on his life just three weeks ago the prison guards skipped the 30 minute required checks on Epstein’s cell last night.
Early this morning they found him dead.
Jeffrey Epstein is the latest in a long list of Clinton family associates and acquaintances who died mysteriously or committed suicide before their public testimony.
In 2016 CBS Las Vegas posted a list of Bill and Hillary Clinton associates alleged to have died under mysterious circumstances.
Here is that list.
1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.
5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.
7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..
11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy FeNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Is it gauche to find this funny?
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John McAfee
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@officialmcafee
I was stunned by Epstein's suicide, though probably not as much as Epstein himself.
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Here's a wrinkle I hadn't considered ...
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What are the odds that Epstein's body gets misplaced? Or accidentally cremated?
As for the autopsy results being delayed, as far as I know they include "manner of death" and "cause of death".
"Manner of death" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manner_of_death
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In the United States, a manner of death is expressed as belonging to one classification of a group of six possible:[9][4][8]
Natural
Accident
Suicide
Homicide
Undetermined
Pending
I'd guess that's the hang-up.
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