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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 5:13 PM

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Originally posted by Zicsoft:



Actually, Jewel Staite could have just as easily been cast as Inara -- before she put on the extra weight she needed to play Kaylee.

This business of Kaylee's chubbiness makes me think Whedon wants to do some stories where a woman's self-image is an issue.




Oh, hee! Oh, that's a good one, Z. Because if she'd put on just five more pounds that girl would be downright grotesque!

Please tell me you don't seriously think she's really chubby. "Hollywood chubby" perhaps. Of course the standards of Hollywood still seem to be defined by stars like Calista(I've never seen a picture of her where she wasn't really skinny so I'm pretty much convinced this is her natural state) and Jennifer Aniston(who we know has lost quite a bit of weight over the years) so really, who are they to judge? And even if Hollywood does consider her chubby no right minded viewer is going to think she is, especially any women of average American size who are sitting at home thinking, "Damn, I'd kill for her body!"

So Joss can explore body issues with "chubby" Kaylee all he wants, but until she's wearing at least a size 12 I ain't buying it.

We now return to your regularly scheduled and rant free version of JaynesGirlfriend.

"I was gonna get me an ear, too." - Jayne

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:50 PM

The casting sides did describe Kaylee as "chubby and sexy as hell," however Jewel Staite is *not* chubby.

--- Joe

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:43 PM

You're right, an extra 15 pounds makes JS "Hollywood chubby", not truely overweight. And you're probably also right about the self-image thing. More likely we're gonna see this ongoing thing where Kaylee can't quite comprehend that Simon is as attracted to her as she is to him. Which wouldn't play very well if Kaylee were as svelte as some of the photos on Jewel-Staite.com

JOSH, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:02 PM

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...[Joss'] choice for the actress to play Willow -- a stocky, conspicuously Jewish-American actress. The network wanted somebody more glamorous and less ethnic. Allyson Hannigan was the resulting comprimise.




Um, have you seen the unaired half-hour pilot with Joss' first choice for Willow? My god, it was like watching someone acting in their first Grade School play, and badly! She couldn't have acted her way out of a paper bag!

Thank whomever is responsible for the intervention that led to the removal of that terrible first choice and the inclusion of our lovely Allyson in her stead.

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Saturday, September 28, 2002 9:00 PM

Maybe it's my TV, but Kaylee doesn't look chubby to me, though it's hard to tell with those overalls. If you want an example of Joss casting someone chubby, look at Amber Benson in Buffy. She's chubby, but not unpleasantly so. And kudos to Whedon (or whoever did) for casting her; she makes the Buffy cast as a whole seem more normal or realistic.

roj

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Saturday, September 28, 2002 9:13 PM

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Originally posted by Alternity:
Maybe it's my TV, but Kaylee doesn't look chubby to me, though it's hard to tell with those overalls. If you want an example of Joss casting someone chubby, look at Amber Benson in Buffy. She's chubby, but not unpleasantly so. And kudos to Whedon (or whoever did) for casting her; she makes the Buffy cast as a whole seem more normal or realistic.

roj

Amber Benson chubby? Don't be absurd. She does lack the little boy body type that a Hollywood starlet has to have. But if she's carrying any extra weight, I don't see it.

JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

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Saturday, September 28, 2002 11:52 PM

Frankly, when I look at that scene in The Body when Buffy and Tara are sitting next to each other in the hospital, I just can't see why anyone finds Sarah Michelle Gellar attractive.

There's Amber, looking perfectly proportioned, and this reed-thin waif beside her, looking somewhat past dead.

Of course, this look really works for Buffy, as the premise of the series sort of demands it. But why is this supposed to be attractive?

(P.S. I love Amber.)

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Sunday, September 29, 2002 3:25 AM

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Originally posted by Kalimac:
Frankly, when I look at that scene in The Body when Buffy and Tara are sitting next to each other in the hospital, I just can't see why anyone finds Sarah Michelle Gellar attractive.

There's Amber, looking perfectly proportioned, and this reed-thin waif beside her, looking somewhat past dead.

Of course, this look really works for Buffy, as the premise of the series sort of demands it. But why is this supposed to be attractive?

(P.S. I love Amber.)

Blasphemer! SMG is the epitome of beauty! All those who doubt this are beyond pity!

Admitedly she's often seen in really ugly clothes and industrial-strength makeup. But that's Buffy's fault, not Sarah's!

Amber Benson is very sexy too, but in a non-Hollywood way.

JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

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Sunday, September 29, 2002 3:49 AM

I'm really attracted to the Buffy of the first 3 years. Then she just got too thin!

--- Joe

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Sunday, September 29, 2002 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by Alternity:
Maybe it's my TV, but Kaylee doesn't look chubby to me, though it's hard to tell with those overalls. If you want an example of Joss casting someone chubby, look at Amber Benson in Buffy. She's chubby, but not unpleasantly so.



I suspect you have lost your concept of normal, or this is a strange, new definition of "chubby" that I do not understand.

http://www.wonderquest.com/size-women-us.htm
"Q: What is considered to be the average size woman in America? --Debbie, Grand Prairie, Texas

A: According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the average U.S. woman is 5' 3.7 (162 centimeters) tall and weighs 152 pounds (69 kilograms). This corresponds to a Body Mass Index of 26.3 kilograms/meters², which is slightly less than the average man's.

The average American woman is tall enough for an astronaut (minimum height, 4' 10.5) but falls short of the average Miss America winner (5' 6.5) and is about the same height as the shortest president (James Madison, 5' 4).

By the way, the average U.S. male stands 5' 9.1 tall and weighs 180 pounds, with a Body Mass Index of 26.5 kg/m²."



Jeff
Who needs to lose more than SMG weighs...sigh.

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